Thankyou for your reply right i won't go down that root then and I only thought he could as my dad said he could by step I meant he has the same dad but not mum incase that makes a difference but it probably doesn't lol! My dad must of got that bit wrong I phoned up the London embassy place and queried the rr visa they said I would probably get the shorter one first I can Remember if they said 155 or 157 one now but the. I read somewhere that once granted you may have to return upto three months from date it was granted and I am worried the the childrens and husbands won't come in time for all of us to go together? Would Ian be able to get a partner one if I was in the uk when we applied? Just confused what way is best to go thanks so much forgive help