pri191087

Hi all,

Thought I'd highlight my dad's 143 timeline as a rough guide:

Application lodged: 16 Jan 2013

Acknowledgment received: 31 March 2013 along with request to send through Form 80, form 47A etc.

PCC: 12 Dec 2013

AOS lodged: 3 July 2014

Request for documents email received by our agent: 14 July 2014 (this is not a formal CO allocation, just a reminder to now keep all documents ready)

Letter from Centrelink to lodge the bond received: 22 July 2014 (Bond lodged within a couple of days with CBA)

Medicals done for both mum and done (mum is non migratory dependent spouse): 30th July (this was done after the ''request for documents'' letter was received because it contained the eMedical HAP ID's)

CO allocated: 28th July, requesting for Form 80 for my mum (non-migratory dependent spouse, Form 1221 for both parents & original PCC's for both). We sent all this through within a few days.

AOS acceptance letter received: 5 August 2014

At this point everything was done except for my mums PCC which was holding us off. My parents got this processed and sent this through, the Department received this on 04 Sept.

Request for 2nd VAC & Pre visa grant received: 11 Sept 2014

Bank cheque prepared, sent and delivered by: 16 Sept 2014

Visa Grant: ........WAITING..... **hopefully soon**

We also received the timeline along with the Acknowledgment indicating when we should get what done, however, our agent told us to hold off on getting PCC, Medicals & AOS lodged per the timeline because the CO's are rarely allocated per the 16 month consensus. (which is true cause ours was only allocated in 18 months and 12 days so nearly 19 months). The risk you run of getting your PCC and Meds within 12 months of lodgment (which is what the timeline states) is that when your visa is granted, you have very little time to enter the country. If that's not an issue for someone then it doesn't matter if you follow the timeline strictly. Our CO has been really good so far and very prompt so I'm hoping we receive visa grant soon. I also was quite happy with Centrelink, the entire AOS lodgment from start to finish only took 4 weeks so not bad at all.

If only we were told by our agent to get my mum's PCC done too the wait would have been halved from the time the CO was allocated and the 2nd VAC request was received. The timeline says so specifically and we kept asking our agent but he said some CO's require the non-migratory spouse's documents whereas some don't so best to wait. Oh well, you live and learn!

Hey Richard,

Yes you're spot on, our agent forwarded us the pre visa grant letter & request for the 2nd VAC yesterday, soooo relieved, it means myfulfilled all criteria!!!!

I was going to pay by credit card but then my parents found the 1.8% surcharge pretty ridiculous so I got a bank cheque this morning and going to post it off soon. Plus with the credit card, there's always a risk of the security team within the bank rejecting large requests despite having pre warned the financial institution. So we figured bank cheque was the best bet...

Cheers

Pri

Hey guys,

We are waiting for further progress on my dad's application since the CO was allocated on 28th August 2014. The hold up was due to my mum's PCC who's non migratory spouse, our agent insisted we wouldn't need it but CO asked for originals so had to get all that done. We've finally submitted that last document last week so now fingers crossed waiting for the 2nd VAc request. Does anyone know roughly how long this takes? Also, my dad completed his medicals on August 29th or so, but we are a little skeptical cause we haven't heard anything from the CO since the first batch of documents she requested. Do we assume all is good?

Also does anyone know if the CO goes through all paperwork once everything is received or would he/she go through each document as and when it is received? I'm so worried..

Cheers

Priya

Priya,

I have been trawling through all my visa paperwork and on DIAC and I can find nothing about a two year minimum stay before an RRV grant. I even downloaded the application form and that says nothing about two years out of the five residency.

I think I will contact my CO and get it in writing. Almost 2 years have passed since we validated our 143 and if we do not sell our UK home in time and we cannot move within the next year (which we hope to do) then we won't have time to qualify for the 2 year minimum by 2017.

I hardly slept last night worrying and reading stuff. I must have my mind put at rest.

Regards Val

Hello again,

The link states that you have to be in Australia for 2 years before applying for a a RRV which is a ''residence requirement''. However, I'm sure they'll consider other reasons cause there's another Visa subclass 157 too where you can rpove under compelling situations reasons you were out of Australia. If that's not the case then that'll be a relief for many parents such as yourself and mine too who won't be able to satisfy this condition. Good luck and keep the forum updated on your findings. I'm sure it'll be fine, you're not the only one who hasn't stayed ehre for long.

Thanks,

Hi (again),

 

I am assuming that you have a visa to allow you to live/work in Australia which is NOT a CPV 143 or a 173. Therefore' perhaps the conditions that state you must spend a minimum of two years out of the five probably apply to you not me. You have applied for a CPV for your parent and it has not yet been granted. When it is, it will only state that;

"The subclass 143 (Contributory Parent - Migrant) visa that has been granted includes a return travel facility which allows the holder to travel in and out of Australia as a permanent resident for a period of five years from the date it was granted"

The above is a quote from my grant letter - nowhere within it says anything about a minimum two year residency. Please, if you are going to give advice on this forum, try to make sure that your information is correct. The link to a Resident Return Visa was not what I asked you to verify, I asked if you could show me where it states that the holder of a CPV 143 must live in Australia for a minimum of 2 years within the 5.

Regards, Val

Hello there,

What Bridgeman & I tried to explain was that the CPV 143 visa and Residency Return Visa are both inter connected in a way for those parents who wish to be in and out of the country, otherwise once the 5 year visa expires, in order to be eligible for the Resident return Visa they need to fulfill the 2 year condition of living in Australia within the 5 year CPV 143 visa grant.

I think the purpose of this forum is so everyone expresses their views so when you asked me to ''verify'' what I said, I presented what I thought was appropriate per my kowledge, however, I am not anyone's lawyer, so all I was doing was talking about what I thought was correct applicable to my situation. Not everything on this forum is, or is meant to be 100% factual, people are amateurs presenting information on what they know, all in hope of getting residency quicker.

Apologies, if the above link wasn't what you asked for & that the link didn't apply to you, however the point of sending that through wasn't to provide any sort of ''advice'' as everyone's situation is different.

Cheers,

Priya

Hi there,

 

I am quite concerned about the second paragraph of your post; can you point me in the direction as to where you got that particular piece of information please? My CPV143 was granted and validated in November 2012 and we are still here in the UK trying to sell our house. We have spent only 12 weeks in Australia since getting the 143. I understood that you could come and go as you pleased until 5 years after validation. In our case that would mean that we have to be in full time residence by November 2017. If the rules have changed, I'm wondering why we have not been notified.

Can you send me a link or a quote from where you got your info please?

Thanks, Val

Hi,

Thanks bridgeman, you explained it much better. In a nutshell in order to be able to apply for a Resident Return visa it is necessary to spend 2 years during the 5 year visa period.

Subclass 155 Resident Return visa

You might be able to be granted this visa if you:

• have spent a period totalling two years in the last five years in Australia as either an Australian permanent resident or citizen (the ‘residence requirement’).

http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/155-157.aspx

cheers

Hi

As I understand it, when the 143 is granted, you have 12 months from the date of the police check or medical whichever is the earliest to to enter (validate the visa) Australia

Once that is done you can come and go for 5 years before you need to take up permanent residency

Someone please correct me if this is wrong

Cheers

Barry

Hi,

Yes that's what I've heard re visa grant, you have 12 months from the date of PCC/Medicals whichever is earliest. However, if people follow the timelines per the checklist then those things are completed way before the CO is allocated which in turn leaves very little time for one to enter the country from when the visa is granted. Anyhow, I'm going to ask my migration lawyer to see if he can request an extended date on the visa grant, but I guess I'll only do that once the request for the 2nd VAC is received. Else more $$ down the drain for my dad to visit for a week or so to validate his visa and then go back to attend my wedding..

Also, the 5 year clause means the Permanent Residency visa is a 5 year visa. It means permanent residents carrying that visa must spend atleast 2 years every 5 years in the country (doesn't have to be 2 years in 1 go, but can be made up of several visits). If they dont do that they have to apply for a resident return visa. So the best bet for those parents who are trying to be in and out of the country is to stay 4 years and get their citizenship after which they can stay n or out of Australia as much as they like without any visa issues.

Cheers

Our daughter,the Assurer took the completed forms into Centrelink(not all Centrelink offices deal with the AOS process) and they checked the supporting docs and gave them back to her

About 2 weeks later they rang her and conducted an interview over the phone, mostly reiterating her responsibilities as an AOS

A few days later she received a request for the bond which she paid into the account she had to open specifically for the purpose with the Commonwealth Bank, which I believe is the only bank allowed to operate these accounts

 

cheers

Barry

Hi Barry,

Thanks, yes I did the same, just got a call & email from Centrelink this morning saying our AOS has been accepted & we'll get a final approval letter in the mail and that they'll notify the Department too.

Does anyone know how much time they give you to enter the country? I hope they give us until early next year because my parents are organising a wedding and it'll be quite hard to come to Australia straight away, worse comes worse my dad will just fly over for a quick week, more expenses ugh but they've got to do what they've got to do!!

Anyone from this thread moving to Melbourne? I know of people on this forum who organsied a forum meet up in various cities here and I reckon it's a great idea for newbee parents to meet people of a similar situation having moved to a new country..

Cheers

Priya

Hi I have applied for a173 visa which was acknowledged 20 september 2013 advising I commence checks 10 months ahead. Seeing info on this site suggesting there were delays in processing I contacted immigration who advised against commencing but instead to contact them again in 5 months time

Hi,

Yes exactly my point, Despite the checklist, Immigration themselves have advised against commecning Police checks etc per the time line advised so I'm not sure what the right thing to do is. Our migration lawyer also advised to wait. Anyhow, we've lodged the AOS bond and Medicals have been done. Only thing we are waiting on is PCC original for my mum who's non migratory spouse.

Has anyone completed their AOS yet? Can someone advise if afetr lodging the bond with the bank, has the assurer gone in person to Centrelink to hand in the Bank Guarantee or did the Centrelink officer provide an email address to email the documentation through? I was provided an email address so I emailed them, however I'm a bit worried because the letter states to drop it in person, so I'm hoping Centrelink provide me some ackowledgement of the email and send me a letter that AOS has been accepted.

Hi guys,

Just thought I'd provide an update -

My dad's case officer was allocated on the 28th of July, lodgement date 16th Jan 2013. Such a relief but super busy now sorting out stuff. My mum had to get her medicals done despite she being non migrating spouse so both my mum and dad got their medicals done on the 31st of July. I received a letter to lodge the bond on the 29th of July so that was lodged on the 1st of August with Commonwealth Bank.

The case officer requested for Form 80 and 1221 for my mum too so we had to send that through. Other than that all we are waiting for is the original police clearance copy so fingers crossed.

Hopefully this helps those who are waiting for a CO to be allocated, the wait is nearly over

Cheers

Priya

Hi again

Yes my wife did declare it on medical history In addition she is also epileptic and on daily medication which she declared and again it did not seem to be an issue

 

As there was nowhere on any of the Oz immi sites to inform you how the results were communicated to you , I emailed WAPerth about a week after the medical took place and they replied quite quickly that "we are satisfied that you meet the health requirements and that we would have informed you that if there had been any issues we would have contacted you immediately and informed you of the issue and directed you to your own GP"

Hi Barry,

Good to hear that there hasn't been any issues so far. My parents have theirs tomorrow so fingers crossed. Funnily enough, it's only my dad who's applied for 143, but they have said in the medical letter that this is a combined visa application for my mom and dad both. Having looked at this, we aren't sure if we want my mum to be included as secondary applicant as a dependant either considering she's having to go through the meds, PCC etc despite not applying. Would anyone know if it possible to add on my mom now at this stage 18 months after lodgement date?

Anyhow, I shall be updating this column wit any developments so it helps the ones who've applied after 16th Jan 2013, so follow this closely guys!

Cheers

Hi Pri

My wife has diabetes, which is controlled by diet and exercise and at the medical last month it did not seem to be an issue of concern and a few days later we found she had been A graded

Has your father logged onto the eMedical site yet for him to input his medical history?

Is he resident in the UK at the moment?

 

cheers Barry

Hi Barry,

Yes he has logged onto the eMedical site and printed the referral. He answered yes to the diabetes question and provided details that it is mild and controlled and privided details of the prescribed medication he has once a day post breakfast. good to know it wasn't an issue for your wife. I'm assuming she declared this as a ''yes'' on the form too? How did you know she was A graded?

Thanks

Good to hear that someone is making progress.

What visa is it that you applied for and may I ask when you lodged it?

Just so that we have an up to date idea of timescales.

Regards

Steve2

Hi Steve, lodgement date 16/01/2013. The email received isn't from the CO. It's just a prep email telling us that the CO is about to be allocated soon so we should now forward the documents on to DIMIA. Oh and they sent us a medical letter with HAP IDs. Any tips on medicals guys? My dad is a diabetic but not high, border line and takes pills for it.

Hi

Included in an auto reply from WA PVC Perth on the 8 July they said they are at present processing (which I take to mean assigning a Case Officer) contributory parent visa applications lodged in January 2013 -

Having said that , there is an applicant, who just a couple of days ago on this forum,said he had lodged his application on 16 January 2013 but had not heard from WA PVC

Cheers

Barry

Hey all,

Our migration lawyer just forwarded us an email from WA Paretns saying that our applicatio is about to be assigned to a CO so to get Medicals done and start forwarding originals of the PCC etc. So yay! anyway, so the weird part is in the medical letter, they've inlcluded my mum as the secondary applicant too and have requested for her medicals too. Even though it's just my dad who's the applicant. Is that weird? Also, with medicals, apparently you have to fill out a form with medical history online etc before going for the examination? How does that work?

Thanks,

Priya

Hi

in the auto reply received on Monday of this week, PVC said they are assessing 143s lodged in January 2013

Thanks Veronique, yes they've been assessing Jan 2013 applications for nearly a month now and my dad's lodgement date is 16th Jan 2013, but we still haven't heard anything. Going to wait till 16th July 2013 and then email them asking the status cause it'll be exactly 18 months then. The wait is soooo frustrating!!

Wow I can answer my own question !!!!!!! We sent an enquiry to parents@immi.gov.au asking how we could determine how and when the results of our medicals would be communicated to us. We received an email this morning as follows :

 

I can confirm that we have received your health results electronically and they satisfy our requirements. Had there been any issues you would have received a letter from Global Heath Section. Asking you to attend your GP and explain why.

 

Hope this helps others in the same position

 

our medicals were on the 26th June

Does anyone know what month applications are CO's assessing for 143 at this stage?

THanks Barry001

I lodged AOS forms at centerlink today! They said normally we should be contacted for a phone interview in 2 weeks time. All that's left is CO allocation & medicals !

It is, Karen - and annoying because there is no means of paying the Department of Immigration's charges electronically without paying the credit card surcharge.

 

Most operators who charge a fee for accepting credit card payments will at least allow payments to be made electronically directly into their bank account on a no additional fee basis.

 

Personally ... I think it's just another cash grab from visa applicants, who are an easy target. But one day these applicants will have a vote!

 

A very Happy Easter to all!

Hi Alan,

I have seen how useful your responses have been to a lot of people so thought I'd throw in a quick one. This is for Visa 143 for my dad with Lodgement date 16th January 2013. PCC completed dated 16th December 2013 and is ready to go.

I am quite confused because my immigration agent has been telling me to hold off from my father getting Medicals until the CO is appointed. He is also telling me to hold off submitting the AOS forms to Centrelink. His reason being that incase there's issues with Medicals then once we lodge the 10k bond to Centrelink it could get messy to ask for the refund incase there's problems with my dad's medicals. I, however, am in a bit of a rush to submit the AOS forms because I mgiht be quitting my job by 31st August and per the form I should have emlpoyment etc to be Assurer.

Can yourself or someone experienced please advise what should be done?

Per the letter received from Immigration, if you follow the timeline, we are well overdue lodging the AOS forms, but a few people on this thread have mentioned how there's huge delays in the CO being appointed and hence it's best to wait before getting Meds, AOS done. Even with my dad's medicals, he's 53 and healthy and fit looking except for being diabetic. So not sure if that could be a potential issue?

Any help would be appreciated guys!!

Thanks Petina. Since application lodging in end of Jan 2013, it took exactly 17 months to get the 2nd VAC request.

Hi Blueray,

But your visa was from 173 to 143 correct?

Thanks,

Priya

I don't think that getting the medicals done again after visa grant will change anything. When the visa is issued it will state a date by which the visa applicant must first enter Australia. If he were to redo the PCC this would have to be done before submitting them to DIBP, ie before visa grant. They would then probably go by the date of the medicals.

 

Don't forget he can validate the visa with a holiday visit, it doesn't have to be permanent.

Thanks Bridgeman, yes I meant, if the CO requests him re doing Meds/PCC then we'll have to - ugh it's gonna be a long wait until the CO is allocated so fingers crossed.

Hi!

 

We applied in August last year, and received a check list for medicals, Police checks etc to be done from 10 months from receipt of application. We have heard that there is a huge backlog and that PC's and medicals should not be done until early next year! Anyone heard about this? We were originally told that the process would take about 17months. Now it seems it will be 22months++ Really is a waiting game.........

Yes, our migration agent told us the same as well as someone on this thread rang Immigration and they advised not to follow the checklist because here's a huge time lag between what the checklist advises and when the CO is allocated. It has been just over 17 months since our lodgement date too so everyday is becoming a nightmare waiting. My dad has only gotten the PCC done, we shall get the Medicals and AOS lodged once the CO is allocated.

Sorry the above was in response to Bridgeman's information ..

Not sure if everyone is aware, but this might help with planning: When the visa is granted you get one year from the date of either medicals or police checks (whichever is sooner) to validate your visa, that is the date by which you must enter Australia or forfeit the visa. . If you want to travel to Oz sooner rather than later this doesn't matter, but if you have various matters to sort out it might make a difference.

Hi Barry,

I wasn't aware of this condition. I reckon this is exactly why our migration agent advised that we shouldn't get Medicals etc done per the timeline indicated on the checklist because there's a huge delay in the CO being allocated and by the time the CO does get allocated the Medicals or PCC may expire.

We followed the checklist and got the PCC for my dad done. This has been ready with an issue date of 27/12/2013. The Medicals haven't been done yet because the migration agent advised us that it only takes 2 days to electronically send through the results to the panel doctors in Australia.

So does it mean if all goes well my father has to enter the country by 27/12/14? Because that may not be feasible to wrap things up from their end since they're organising a wedding etc. Or would it mean they'd have to get the PCC done again before entering the country?

lets keep this group going guys.. Think this is the only actively running CPV 143 forum so kudos!!

Hi Pri

Just last Tuesday I emailed Perth immi and asked when we could expect a CO to be assigned to our 143 application which was lodged in June 2013. they replied within 20 minutes, would you believe, and said it would be November/December, which is 17/18 months after lodgement

Regarding medicals, if you are in a country which has the eHealth arrangement , the online system of notifying OZ of the medical results (ie UK) they go off to Sydney immediately after the panel doctor has completed the examination

Have you tried logging on to the website with you HAP I'd, you may be able to track it's progress?

On the AOS, am unable to help as we are just arranging for our daughter to take the completed form into Centrelink this week

 

cheers. Barry

Hi Barry, yes so its been 17 months and 3 days so we are expecting a CO to be allocated any day now. As someone before mentioned, when you call up Immi, despite the letter that states ''get Medicals done 12 months ater, AOS in 12 months etc'' , Immi informs you to hold off on Medicals and AOS until the CO is allocated. It's so confusing with differing views and people.

Still waiting for CO allocation!! Seems like their process has slowed down even more cause it's been exactly 17 months since lodgement date. Does anyone know how long it takes for medical results to reach Immigration? And how long roughly does the AOS take?

Hi Barry

Our acknowledgement was dated 6th feb 2013, Centerlink contacted our sponsor in Oct 2013 and our AOS was payed. Medicals were done with a HAP in May 2014, police checks have been done, so we are just waiting now for our CO. It seems to me that certain items happen at different times, with different applications, but take the same time to finalise. Hope this makes sense.

Regards

Andalog.