CaptainC

Hello,

I have found the syllabus on AMSA site.

However, I meant if we can get the questions from students being interviewed and not the examiner/invigiltor..

Yes of course that's possible if you want to do that. Bear in mind though that you may not meet anyone doing the same ticket.

Your time would most likely be better spent going through the regulatory instruments unique to Australia. Such as the OH&S (Maritime industry) Act, Marine Orders, Navigation Act etc. These are extensive documents, and to thoroughly understand them then it will take a lot of time.

If you wish to provide the questions to me afterwards then I can add them to the Dropbox and start a separate engineer folder in there to help any future engineering candidates.

Hi Captain C,

 

Will do as advised. However, is it possible to get questions from AMSA centres if we go there in advance a few days?

Not at all. I'm curious to know why you think they would do that. It's a ticket to show competence, so if I was an examiner I'd be extremely upset with that question.

They will only tell you to follow the syllabus.

The syllabus is here > http://www.amsa.gov.au/seafarers/int-qualifications/examinations/documents/appendix9-syllabus-amsa-oral-exam-certificate-recognition-engineer-watckeeper.pdf

Be fully prepared for any technical questions over and above these guidelines.

Hello Captain C,

I am sailing as a chief engineer. I have orals next month for Class 1. Can you kindly advice the questions asked in orals examinations? I saw the link u posted for orals but it is for mates. Can u advice for engineers..

Sorry, I can't give any guidance for Engineers, it's not my field.

I would say though that as I mentioned to the other member on this thread to seek out the syllabus for C/E CoC on the AMSA website.

Will it be helpful if ask my boss to phone Immi to push? if so, when is the proper time to call? thanks!

Hi Bret, please see this post regarding calling DIBP http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237227

Regards,

CaptainC

Hi Marvin,

Although I'm a Master rather than Engineer, I can say that there is no real difference in the AMSA offices. Take a look at the syllabus for Chief Engineer on the AMSA website.

Be prepared for a full Chief's Orals rather than just a legislation based examination, they want to ensure your complete competence rather than just your knowledge of the Australian regulatory framework

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My grandparents and my dad were almost £10 Poms, I wouldn't be alive today if he'd gone!!

If it was the 18th century then we would have got a 'free trip' to Aus anyway, now we have to prove we aren't criminals ....and pay for the privilege!

I didn't realise a stat dec had to be witnessed..i just sent one re. criminal record with only my signature...They must have accepted it as just a statement then?!

Yes, most likely. They generally (I think) ask for a stat dec if there is a problem obtaining a PCC for a country (this was what I needed one for) or there is little or no information to corroborate a claim of good character.

The stat dec can be used as a tool to cancel a visa as it is, as the name suggests, a true declaration of something. It's pretty much the same as an oath that you'd say in a court of law, for example.

If it is subsequently found to be a false declaration then you could be prosecuted, fined or imprisoned, and the visa cancelled, and as such aren't to be taken lightly. In general they should only be provided to the department if they ask for one.

So if we upload both fingers crossed we'll be good

If I was a betting man I'd say yes you'll be fine. Don't forget that 1023 though as presumably the statement regarding the group of people involved would contradict the question about associations.

We've got the subject access record on it's way too

That is great.... every little helps

Might try a statement and get it signed by a notary here and see how we get on [emoji16]

Worth a go I reckon, but doesn't have to be witnessed by anyone. I made a statement about a separate matter with only my signature and it was accepted.

Your kidding me!!! The Australian commission is about 300 miles away! [emoji16]

Sadly I'm not..... I had also had to go last Wednesday.

However, you might not necessarily need a stat dec. You could provide a statement instead and see if that is accepted, I'm not 100% sure it would be but it might be worth a try.

But, if you provide a stat dec then you'll have to bite the bullet and make the journey.

It says a police officer can sign them, is that not correct? [emoji16]

An Australian police officer yes. A UK one, no.

I had to do a stat Dec this week and was unable to find a person from the list who also had a connection to Australia, so I had to go to the Australian High Commission in London.

From the AG website

http://www.ag.gov.au/Publications/Pages/Statutorydeclarationsignatorylist.aspx

There are a number of people who may be able to witness your statutory declaration. A Commonwealth statutory declaration under the Statutory Declarations Act 1959 will need to be witnessed by a person who is both:

on the list of authorised witnesses and

has a connection to Australia.

For example, a doctor who is registered to practise medicine in Australia can witness your declaration, but a doctor who is not registered in Australia cannot.

If you are currently overseas, you may be able find someone who is an authorised witness at your nearest Australian Embassy, high commission or consulate. For more information, including contact details, visit the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade website or the Smartraveller.gov.au websites. Please note that engaging an authorised witness overseas may attract a fee under the Consular Fees Act 1955.

We will be uploading a stat dec this evening with all of the information on which we have been given over the phone today. Fingers crossed that will be enough [emoji16]

That's a good start, but as per my first post, you will need to do form 1023 (Notification of Incorrect answers) to correct the character declarations question for when you originally completed the visa application.

Have you had your stat dec certified by someone from the official list on the attorney generals website?

But a caution is not considered a conviction. That is the advice of acro.

Forget the first bit of my last post, it refers to offences not yet disposed of, so I apologise for that and will edit the post.

The caution is not a conviction per se, but it forms part of a persons criminal history, and by virtue that it still appears on a PNC check it is still of interest to the character test as the character requirements state that you must declare all recorded offences to the department, of which this is.

I can't remember if they asked it on the visa application. If they did I've said no because we totally forgot about it until the certificate came back. I'm going to do a stat dec and explain the incident and get it uploaded tonight [emoji16]

Hi Alanlisa,

The question that asks 'has any applicant ever been associated with a person, group or organisation that has been or is involved in criminal conduct?' Technically this is a 'yes' answer, because out of the group your partner was with on that occasion, at least one of them was involved in criminal conduct by virtue of the fact that they were caught in possession of the drugs, which by definition is criminal conduct.

You must correct this answer and also declare the recorded offence by completing Form 1023 as soon as possible and explain them fully. Also, I'd recommend preparing a Form 80 as it is highly likely you'll be asked for it as a result.

Word of caution, when your husband writes the explanation say how silly it was to get involved in that type of thing etc and be very humble. DIBP don't like it when people try to minimise the appearance of their guilt in something that they have done, it's best to stick to the facts (as the police saw it) and then start the grovelling.

An offence of this type not resulting in a prison sentence does not necessarily stand in the way of a visa but if there are attempts to dilute or to somehow hide something this can have an adverse affect.

If you are concerned about anything it may be a good idea to have a chat with a registered migration agent that has some experience with these situations.

Not strictly correct.

There is no legislation preventing passing your OWN data onto a third party. But, there is legislation, that prevents third parties demanding it in order to get a job, for example (only enforceable in the UK of course). The practice of so called 'backdoor PNC check' was outlawed in March this year, but an individual who applies can still do what he would like to do with the data.

I'm sure you'll be fine. Good luck

It's no problem usually. As long as you have declared it then I wouldn't say that you'll have any trouble.

I assume you applied for the subject access report, DIBP actually state that you will need to supply one on receipt of a no live trace report.

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Thanks captainC ,thought as much just thought would ask, my head is filled with loads at the moment

I know the feeling! Best of luck with everything.