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  1. Dear Pri

    After reading your posts I am convinced that the timeline for PCC ,Medicals and AOS bond as mentioned in the original acknowledgment letter should be meticulously followed. If you had done so then by now your father would have been in Australia on CPV 143 by middle of June 2014 as is clear from visa grant time lines on GAINWAVE UK. No one has suffered who has followed the prescribed timelines as is clear from the various posts in this portal. One should use common sense also and not merely go by MARA agents advice blindly as MARA agents` commonsense is not going to be better than yours [in all probability]. Any way what ends well is well after all.

    Regards

  2. Hi, this is a bit trickier; it says on our grant letter, "THE INITIAL ENTRY TO AUSTRALIA BY ALL PERSONS GRANTED A VISA ON THIS APPLICATION MUST BE MADE BY..........".(in my case it was 03 October 2017) visa was granted on 03.10.12.

    It goes on to say that the holder may travel in and out of Australia as a permanent resident for a period of five years from the date it was granted.

    It does not mention how long you get to validate the visa but the wording my letter may be because we had already had a 173 and were merely upgrading to 143.

    There is a number you can ring in London which is only open 1pm to 4pm Monday to Friday for visa help. Takes a while to get through but they are helpful.

    Hope this helps a little. Give us a shout if you need the number.

    Regards, Val

    Thanks. I will contact High Commission here at London as suggested.

    Regards

  3. Hi Fran, I just dug out the paperwork from our 173 visa and it says: "The visa provides for multiple entries to Australia and is valid for two years from the date of first entry".

    Hope this helps to clarify and also hope you're ok. Looking forward to seeing you again asap!

    Val xx

    I was just wondering if the date of start of validity period of 5 years of 143 visa starts from the date of initial entry into Australia just as the two years period of validity of 173 visa starts from the date of initial entry as confirmed by you.Those who have 143 visa can give definitive answer.All replies are welcome.

    Regards

  4. Hello,

     

    Congratulations, you are one step closer to getting the visa. Do you mind if I would ask a question regarding the AOS experience? How did you make an appointment with the centerlink? Do you need to call them in advance or just go to any centerlink and give them your documentations? And how long did it take from that first appointment to receive decision from centerlink? After that, did centerlink or Immigration ask you to make the deposit?

     

    Sorry for many questions. Apparently I was asked to prepare AOS before a CO allocated, so i'm not sure if AOS is approved, do I pay the bond right away or do I wait after the CO allocated? Anyone advise would be really appreciated. Thank you.

     

    As I understand the first requirement is to clear PCC and Health Assessment.Only thereafter the AOS is called for by the CO. However, as per posts in this forum, from 2013 onward`s in the acknowledgement letter fixed timelines are being given to initiate PCC, Health Check and AOS. The AOS means depositing the bond amount with CBA. CO, as and when appointed, will call for PCC only as AOS is sent directly by Centrelink after deposit of bond as is the case with the Medicals which also go directly. It appears that now depositing AOS bond is parallel activity to Health check.If this is the case then bond money has to be deposited even without a CO being appointed.

    With best wishes

  5. Hello Mmant, very interesting post, you certainly do a lot of 'homework'. I think I am going to take the view, that everything will sort itself out eventually. As long as we get all the ducks in line, we should be fine. Having said that, we certainly hope not to spend another winter here. My daughter (the eternal optimist) seems to think we should be in Perth by September 2014 for my birthday, but somehow I doubt this, probably nearer November/December. We sent our application in June this year. So keep the Info coming Mmant, always good to hear from you.

    Dear Carob

    Thanks for your kind words. In your case I think that the clear picture will emerge in end July 2014 when Migration Report 2013 -2014 is published.It will tell us the backlog of pending applications as on 1 July 2014 and quota for the CPV for 2014- 2015. If the number of applications rises for 2013-14 then, assuming the quota remains same or with marginal change, the waiting period would lengthen. If the number of applications in 2013-14 is considerably less than that of year 2012-13 then, as your eternal optimist daughter hopes, you will celebrate your birthday with your daughter in Perth in Sept 2014. I also want to move over at the earliest but then I will have to make one to two trips back to London every year to wrap up my financial interests here. Waiting for upswing in Canary Wharf and Liverpool Street.

    My best wishes are with you.

  6. Well I have quoted from the published figures form Migration Report 2012-2013. It is clear that there was heavy receipt of applications in June 2012. Once this big lot is cleared then in next two three months time the processing time should come down to 17- 18 months. Date of acknowledgement means nothing I think. I don`t think that PVC keeps on accumulating the applications and opens them all on one bright day and issue acknowledgement for all the accumulation in one day. They must be processing them in the order in which they have been received date wise.Regarding Alan`s suggestion to request for deployment of extra staff I have my own doubts. They have to clear yearly quota which they do every year. I don`t think if any weekly/fortnightly/ monthly quota is there.

    One more thing, not all applicants post their timelines on CPV tracker. During last year approx 6500 CPV were issued.While the number of posts in CPV issued for the last year is just 15 which is statistically insignificant. Therefore to go by timelines of CPV tracker is at the best misleading oneself. I find that the posts in this forum give the accurate picture. Some of us are desperate to move to Australia at the earliest because of our personal reasons, whereas many of us can bide our time of nearly two years before making the move. I know several cases where after validating the CPV the persons are spending five six months in UK every year. I hope that you get your visa soon.

    :biggrin::wink:

  7. I have been reading the treat for the past 6 months and thought I would share our journey, be it incomplete with the forum:

     

    I have been the eternal optimist for the past 12 months. Everyday hoping that the Parent Visa Centre has a change of direction (for the better) and process application in a record time! Well, I can say that the optimism has deteriorated on a daily basis, and over the past 2 months optimism has changed over to pure frustration.

     

    We lodged my in-laws 143 application and the PVC confirmed acceptance on 23 July 2012. To date we have received not a single word. Tomorrow it will be 500 days and as per the visa tracker, a new record.!! Well done processing centre.

     

    As I am the authorised representative for my in-laws, I have contacted the department on numerous times by phone and email. By phone they advise that they cannot give dates and expected durations until a case officer is assigned, but for the past 2 months have every time mentioned that they are working thru a back log and our application should not be too far away.

     

    The email returns I have received from the PVC is a bit more concerning, 3 emails over the past 2 months have all come back with the same date the department is currently processing applications as 11 June 2012… I don’t believe this as the tracker shows case officers were assigned to application up to 7 July 2012.

     

    We do remain hopeful of getting a case officer before Christmas, fingers cross.

     

    I will update the forum on any progress going forward, be it good or bad.

    I am reproducing my earlier post below:-\

    ###Dear Alan

    I am posing the following query which i think that you can answer best in view of your knowledge and expertise as MARA agent.

     

    The following is the extract from the Migration Report 2012-13:-

     

    " The contributory parent category outcome also met its 2012-13 planning level of 6575 places. Demand in the contributory parent category decreased by approximately 1524

    applications between 2011-12 and 2012-13. Demand in 2011-12 was driven by high

    numbers of applications in May and June 2012. The number of applications in 2012-13

    generally increased throughout the year reaching a high of 927 in April 2013, before falling

    substantially in May and June 2013. Over 12 500 clients remain in the pipeline at

    30 June 2013, an increase of 4.8 per cent over the program year. This category was capped

    in 2012-13."

     

    As lay person I have done simple maths.There are 12500 applicants in pipeline as on 30 June 2013. There are 6675 positions for CPV visa for the year commencing from 1 July 2013. This means 556 visa every month if DIAC works with a clock work precision.For sake of grasping the situation let us take the month of January 2013 which is the middle of the year for calculation purposes.At roughly the rate of 1000 applications per month, by the middle of the January there will be receipt of 6500 applications.If we divide this by 556 then we get answer as 12 approximately.Therefore those who received their acknowledgement in middle of January 2013 it would mean a wait of 12 months counting from 1 july 2013. This means that such applicant who received their acknowledgement in mid January 2013 can hope for visa grant by end of June 2014.Thus the total waiting period comes to 17 months approximately.

    Kindly let us know if I am correct. I am sure that there are others also waiting anxiously for the visa like me.Your expert answer will be welcomed by all.

    Thanks in advance.

    with warm regards.###

    From above it is clear that as per published figure of applicants in normal course the average time for appointment of CO and grant should be 17 months. CO also takes two three months to finalize. I think one can just wait and watch.

  8. If I am not mistaken it is now taking 18 months from the date of acknowledgment for appointment of CO? That being the case I think character verification and medicals can be got done in 14th month from the date of application. Will that be a sensible course of action instead of getting character verification done on completion of 10 months from date of application and medicals to be got done on expiry of 12 months from the date of application as directed in the acknowledgment letter.All answers are welcome.

    With regards and warm wishes to all forum members.

    N.B. Godspeed to Phoebe for quick recovery.

  9. Oh Rowley Rocket, another 'wobbly'. I thought the 143 granted PR, where has the valid for 5 years come from, I'm sure I haven't read anything in the immi.info?

     

    Useful reply mmant like you we are 'middle income' are you there already?

     

    Freesia, is this the Chireckles site you are talking about, or is there another one for 143 applicants? Guess that Fisher1 is also Kath, and yes that is not me, I'm Caro :wink:

    My turn for CPV 143 is expected sometime in middle of 2014. Right now I am on west side of English channel in between Isle Of Dogs and Canada Waters.

    Regards

  10. Hi,

     

    Our 143s were granted in August and we will soon be leaving.

     

    The visa grant notice states that the visa is valid for 5 years and in that time we are allowed multiple entries, with 'Conditions: Nil'.

     

    My question to the forum (I guess addressed to those who have gone through the process and are now in Australia, or advisors) is:- are there any limits on the amount of time you are allowed out of Australia in that 5 years? (Not that we are intending to leave Oz for extended periods, but it would be nice to know if there are any limitations.) I have searched the immi website with no success.

     

    Regards

     

    Rowley

     

    ps good luck to all of you still in the process.

    I can understand the real question behind your post. I would suggest that you read Returning resident visa provisions in detail in immi gov au website.If you stay for a cumulative period of two years during the currency of 5 year visa then you will get RR Visa for three years. If stay is less than two years then one has to establish permanent ties with Australia also. It will be better if you read it yourself, that will give you total picture.One never knows when Australia would toughen citizen ship acquisition rules like it has been done here in UK. Once 143 visa has been obtained then prudence lies in getting Australian citizenship at the earliest unless one is keeping the option of testing the Australian waters open so as to move back.For a middle income applicant like me it is going to be one way street. I am neither hard pressed for money nor awash with money. But for my age I do not wish to make any more experiments in settling here and there. Settling in Australia, God willing, shall be my last relocation in life.

    Happy relocation to you.

  11. Hello Brumby

    Oooh, doesn't it get more confusing and fuzzy around the edges! We applied in June, so waiting with bated breathe after reading your experience. It will still be a long wait though I :confused:

    Regards Caro

    Dear Carob

    I am not MARA agent. In my earlier posts I have done simple maths w.r.t. the number of visa places available and the number of the applicants in the waiting list as per the published figures of DIAC. The average time for grant of VISA from the date of acknowledgement comes to 16-17 months. Exceptions excluded.In case of MOZZA the acknowledgement date is 24 may 2012. So 15 months have already passed. MOZZA`s case is now overdue for grant of visa. In my humble opinion as soon as police verification and medicals are successfully completed then the AOS should be quickly wrapped up so that call for second VAC can materialize at the earliest. How much quickness MOZZA should show would depend on target date of visa validation decided by the applicant as correctly pointed out by LINDAY in the foregoing post.Somehow I am of the firm opinion that such issues which are contingent upon political vagaries should be quickly concluded. Who knows how much tightening the new Govt. in Canberra might do. The honeymoon period of commodity boom is over. Au economy is slowing. There are firm voices about forthcoming recession. Parents are not considered as potential tax payers as they are generally past the working age.They are expected to lead retired life.Steep rise in visa application fees is an indicator of things to come.Why go far, here in UK inbound migration of parents of the citizens is not allowed from non EU countries unless proof of financial dependency on the sponsoring UK citizen can be established showing that the sponsor is financially supporting the parent for last ten years.In any case, as a parent, whatever may be the " ifs" and "buts" and "whys" and "wherefores " I very strongly feel that in twilight years of our life sooner we are near our progeny the better it is.

    Regards and best wishes

  12. Our CPV 143 was acknowledged on 24 May 2012, and the email we received from DIAC was last week 22 August, to arrange our medicals, CRB check and to forward the letter to our assurer. We also have to fill out form 80.

     

    It could be that DIAC have changed the way they process the CPV 143 visa, which seems a lot better than being left in limbo and waiting 15 months to be contacted.

     

    Good luck with your Visa, we are hoping ours will be sorted in the next few months.

    Dear Mozza

    As far as I understand the police verification and medicals are valid for one year only.Have DIAC asked you to submit both of them straight away or some time line has been prescribed?

    Regards

  13. Dear Alan

    I am posing the following query which i think that you can answer best in view of your knowledge and expertise as MARA agent.

     

    The following is the extract from the Migration Report 2012-13:-

     

    " The contributory parent category outcome also met its 2012-13 planning level of 6575 places. Demand in the contributory parent category decreased by approximately 1524

    applications between 2011-12 and 2012-13. Demand in 2011-12 was driven by high

    numbers of applications in May and June 2012. The number of applications in 2012-13

    generally increased throughout the year reaching a high of 927 in April 2013, before falling

    substantially in May and June 2013. Over 12 500 clients remain in the pipeline at

    30 June 2013, an increase of 4.8 per cent over the program year. This category was capped

    in 2012-13."

     

    As lay person I have done simple maths.There are 12500 applicants in pipeline as on 30 June 2013. There are 6675 positions for CPV visa for the year commencing from 1 July 2013. This means 556 visa every month if DIAC works with a clock work precision.For sake of grasping the situation let us take the month of January 2013 which is the middle of the year for calculation purposes.At roughly the rate of 1000 applications per month, by the middle of the January there will be receipt of 6500 applications.If we divide this by 556 then we get answer as 12 approximately.Therefore those who received their acknowledgement in middle of January 2013 it would mean a wait of 12 months counting from 1 july 2013. This means that such applicant who received their acknowledgement in mid January 2013 can hope for visa grant by end of June 2014.Thus the total waiting period comes to 17 months approximately.

    Kindly let us know if I am correct. I am sure that there are others also waiting anxiously for the visa like me.Your expert answer will be welcomed by all.

    Thanks in advance.

    with warm regards.

  14. Ideally speaking I think that the best place to live in Australia is where your children live. If we put aside this thumb rule and assuming that one is going to lead retired life without working then in such a scenario which is the best major city in Australia conducive to good health and other amenities ? All opinions are welcome.

  15. Hi everyone

    Visa granted this morning so its all systems go now. I had already booked my flight for 7 August and was getting concerned as the 2nd VAC payment was made on 19 June, however all is well. The shipping company are coming on 1 August, car sold, as well as some furniture I am not taking. Hopefully things will continue to go smoothly. Soooo excited that it is now finally happening. Hope all you folks who are on the home straight so to speak won't have too much longer to wait.

    Cath

    Hi Cathwotherspoon

    Congratulations.Let us hope that a glorious chapter of happiness, contentment and good health starts for you from the day you set your foot on Australian soil as permanent resident.

    regards

  16. Hi Alan

    New tariff for second VAC for CPV143 is AUD 42200 per applicant. It seems that there is no change over the previous rate. Am I correct? Any idea why it has not been raised when there is across the board rise in all other visa fees.Is it because of fall in number of Visa 143 applications? Thx in advance.

    Regards

    Hi Alan

    Many thanks for your reply.Kindly see the following link:-

    http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/new-visa-charges-1july2013/_pdf/visa-pricing-table.pdf

    It shows the same fee for CPV143 as for year 2012-13.Does it mean that there is no change as i have presumed or i am in the wrong.

    Best regards.

  17. A quick note to say (as I always do at this time of year) that those who are contemplating lodging a Contributory Parent visa application should do so on or before the 30th of June to lock into the current Visa Application Charges: the second (and main) VAC is based on the scale of VACs payable when the visa application is lodged with DIAC.

     

    The 2nd VAC for CP visa applications tends to increase by at least a couple of $'000 per applicant each year - it started at $25k when the visa was first introduced some 7 or 8 years ago. We're now at $42,220 per applicant.

     

    To lodge a valid CP visa application all you need do is lodge forms 47PA and 40, and pay the first VAC.

     

    For those contemplating lodging an application in time to lock in at the current scale of Charges, a migration agent's fee will probably be less than the anticipated increase in the 2nd VAC.

     

    Best regards.

    Hi Alan

    New tariff for second VAC for CPV143 is AUD 42200 per applicant. It seems that there is no change over the previous rate. Am I correct? Any idea why it has not been raised when there is across the board rise in all other visa fees.Is it because of fall in number of Visa 143 applications? Thx in advance.

    Regards

  18. Hi All

     

    I have been a member for quite sometime and after reading through all the posts several times on this thread and realising what nice friendly and helpful people you all are I have finally plucked up courage to participate and post some questions to you.

     

    My hubby and I are both 66, retired and drawing full state pensions and a small work pension each. Our only son went out to Australia in 2009 on a student visa, returned home after a year then within a couple of months went back, again on a student visa. Whilst there he met the girl of his dreams and moved in with her. Both of them then came over to England and lived with us for 10 months during which time he applied for a De Facto visa, they went back to Australia, he on a tourist visa, until his tempory DF visa was granted, he just popped over to New Zealand to collect it. That was in March 2012, and hopefully his permanent residency will be granted in October this year.

     

    We have visited Oz several times over the years, and now that our Son is looking to live there permanently, I would dearly like to be there as well, we have no siblings and both sets of parents are dead, so apart from very good friends, we have no ties in the Uk. But I have one big problem, my OH doesn't think we could afford to live there on our pensions, we would have very little left By the time we have paid for a PCV etc, even after selling our house, also we are both on meds for high blood pressure and Hubby is also on Warfarin he seems to think that private health care and meds would bo cost prohibitive and also we would probably have to find somewhere to rent as our son and partner are sharing a house with his partners sister.

     

    Just wondered if any one on the forum were in a similar situation financially and health wise and if they were managing to make ends meet.

     

    Cheers Deejee

    Hi Deejee

    Basically it is a matter of individual circumstances which i happen to believe are usually unique.In all probability your own objective decision would be best. I am not sermonizing, this is the hard reality.As a couple one has to do reality check again and again before paying nearly one hundred thousand AUD including 14000 for AOS bond. I returned from OZ a fortnight ago after three months stay.The GP would write generic medicine which is supposed to be as good as branded medicine but one half its actual cost. For the common antibiotic Ciprofloxacin 500mg tabs[generic and not branded] I had to pay AUD 50 for ten tabs. GP fee was AUD 150 and appointment came after two weeks. My overseas insurance did not cover out patient consultation. In Medicare beyond a basic charge one has to pay the difference from pocket.For protracted medication OZ is an expensive place.I hope that your circumstances may perhaps improve health-wise if you go to live in Canberra or Melbourne.Two bedroom apartment rent alone would cost at least 12000 to 14000 AUD p.a.After my repeated visits to OZ in last eight years i can say that Melbourne, Sydney and Canberra are no less expensive than living here in west London.Despite all its critics the NHS is better than Medicare in OZ.I wish that life was just a sum total of money, but it is lot more complex than that.At least in my personal life the planning has worked only for short time.Perhaps destiny has already chartered the course of our lives and we the "humble" human beings are permitted perhaps only short deviations.If you are destined to live in OZ, rest assured that time will carry you there.

    Regards

  19. Hello mmant.

     

    Before you start contemplating removing your husband from the visa application you should be aware of the inability to then sponsor him for 5 years - from the DIAC Parent Migration booklet, bottom of page 7 (http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/1129.pdf):

     

    If you have a married or de facto partner, and you are considering applying for a contributory parent category visa, you should include your partner as a migrating family member in your visa application. If you choose not to include your partner in your visa application, and you are then granted a contributory parent category visa, you may not be able to sponsor your partner under partner migration for 5 years.

     

    => Maybe continue with the subclass 143 application, with your husband to validate his visa upon grant, but does not then make the permanent move straightaway?

     

    Re the procedure from here: you can expect the DIAC case officer to contact you asking for medicals, police clearance checks, and the progressing of the Assurance of Support process about 10 to 12 months following the submission of your visa application. Any other documents that have not been already submitted and that are required by DIAC will be requested at the same time.

     

    Best regards.

    Dear Allan

    Thank you indeed for your prompt response. My Husband is not looking forward to me to sponsor him as partner some time in future [after 5 years]. The issue at present is that if he withdraws now then can he come to Oz on 143 in 2016 either on the basis of current application visa grant sometime in june 2016 or will he have to make fresh application for 143 again in 2015-16. Your point to obtain visa now in usual course and to validate it quickly and not move permanently before 2016 is well taken. Please also advise if request for delay in appointment of the CO for one of the two applicants is maintainable or not. Many Thanks.

    Regards

    MMANT

  20. Hi Everyone

    I and my husband are applicants for 143. Acknowledgment letter of Jan 2013 says to commence character verification in Nov 2013 and health checks in Jan 2014. I understand that one more email emanates from PVC when actually the above are required and then only one should get them done. Am I correct? I will be happy to hear from the members of the forum their experience on this point. Any collateral information is welcome.

    In the meanwhile there has been a change in our circumstances as my husband has got a three year contract with an international organization here in London. He does not want to let it go because this exposure and experience will be helpful later on in Oz if he decides to work there.I have some questions on which any help will be welcome.

    1] I will go in the normal course as and when my turn comes in 14-16 months.My husband does not wish to proceed with visa along with me. Withdrawl by co-applicant does not lead to withdrawal of the original application??

    2] Can my husband who is co-applicant make a request that in his case the CO should not be appointed before April 2016.If it is requested I hope that our application shall not be cancelled as withdrawn and my husband can remain a valid applicant as per our original application of Jan 2013.

    3] One of my Pom friend in Oz advised that my husband should apply for conversion to visa 103 by filing fresh application and pay the prescribed fee requesting retention of queue/turn as per January 2013 application. As and when he is ready to move in April/May 2016 he can again apply for conversion back to 143. Only downside is that he will have to pay the fee twice while the upside is that the conversion from 103 to 143 will be quick. I don't know how practical is this advice.

    I look forward to know the views of others and if any one has similar experience then what was the outcome.

    With warm wishes

    ​MMANT

  21. Where did you hear that about 143's moving onto 103's? & the drastic fall in 143 applicants? a link would be useful.

    Please go to the link given in my previous post.Feed the acknowledgement date of your 143 application , choose the visa type and click.It will show the number of applicants ahead of you in the queue. As a test case feed the date as 28 feb 2013, choose the visa type as 143 and see the results. I am not sure if the result shown is reckoned from the date of appointment of CO or with reference to acknowledgement date of the application itself.

    With warm wishes

  22. As per the information the average number of new Visa 143 applicants with effect from Jan 2013 is 150 per month. If this average continues then total number of 143 applicants during 2013 will be 1800 only. With introduction of 3 to 5 years tourist/family visa for parents in Visa 103 queue, I heard that many applicants in queue for 143 have switched over to 103. I am left wondering about the impact of all this on those who are still in queue for 143.Will it reduce the waiting time. One thing is clear that there is drastic fall in number of applicants for 143. Could it be because of GFC and rising AUD ? I would love to hear from others their take on this and their perspective on the situation. Queue link is given below. https://www.ecom.immi.gov.au/qcalc/QDateAnswer.do

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