shikac

Guys,

anyone else with his/hers opinion regards to those two visas

This is interesting topic, as my situation is similar, but I was just wondering if I apply for 457 and get bridging visa A, can I then having Bridging visa A apply for 189 visa? and if I apply for 189 visa from Australia do I need to be in Australia when visa is ready for decision?

If you can meet the requirements for a 189, that is the visa to go for. I doubt if you would get a 189 in 2 months but it will probably still be faster than a 186. If you go for a 186, you must then rely on your employer doing everything required for the nomination in a timely manner whereas with a 189, you are in control of the situation.

Ozmaniac,

thanks for your response. Basically, my employer already prepared documents and just waiting for me to confirm which visa I will go and to be lodged. 2 months for 189 was based on info that people provide on their timelines. However, do you know if once you get letter from your authority does Immi normally stick with approved experience or it is not rare to refuse some of experience? Thanks

Hi all,

before everything I apologize dropping my issue on this tread, but I was hoping if anyone can give me any advice it would be appreciated. Also, congrats to those ones who has got their visa granted and wish a luck to those ones who are still waiting.

Namely,

I was just wondering if someone from seniors can advice on my dilemma regarding to choosing right pathway for my visa. My situation as per below:

1. currently in Australia on 485, visa expires on 4th May

2. waiting for skills assessment that hopefully will come next week

3. if they approve my experience with more than 1yr and less than 3, I will have 60 points, but no time to get invite prior current visa expiration as per current trend, then I will apply for 457(my boss is willing to sponsor me) and after that lodge EOI and once get an invite will go for 189 - no dilemma there

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4. If EA approve 3 yrs of my experience then what??? I will have 65 points and if the outcome letter comes before 24, then I can go for 189 and get invite on 24th April and then apply after that but prior current visa expiration or I should stick with 186 and go that way???

My employer already collected all docs regarding to 457 and 186 as on the end of April we will run out of time and sent to my migration agent and I am already paying MA for their service for nomination or sponsorship.

Therefore cost for MA will be sort of same as I made a deal with them that no matter which way I choose it will come to same cost for me.

My dilemma is 189 vs 186??? advantages and disadvantages for both?

Following forums it looks that decision for 189 is quicker sort of 2months comparing to 186 around 4-6months, but that is all what I know. I would appreciate if someone with experience with this or similar situation can open my eyes if I am missing something. Thank you in advance.

Hi experts,

I was just wondering if someone from seniors can advice on my dilemma regarding to choosing right pathway for my visa. My situation as per below:

1. currently in Australia on 485, visa expires on 4th May

2. waiting for skills assessment that hopefully will come next week

3. if they approve my experience with more than 1yr and less than 3, I will have 60 points, but no time to get invite prior current visa expiration as per current trend, then I will apply for 457(my boss is willing to sponsor me) and after that lodge EOI and once get an invite will go for 189 - no dilemma there

*more important

4. If EA approve 3 yrs of my experience then what??? I will have 65 points and if the outcome letter comes before 24, then I can go for 189 and get invite on 24th April and then apply after that but prior current visa expiration or I should stick with 186 and go that way???

My employer already collected all docs regarding to 457 and 186 as on the end of April we will run out of time and sent to my migration agent and I am already paying MA for their service for nomination or sponsorship.

Therefore cost for MA will be sort of same as I made a deal with them that no matter which way I choose it will come to same cost for me.

My dilemma is 189 vs 186??? advantages and disadvantages for both?

Following forums it looks that decision for 189 is quicker sort of 2months comparing to 186 around 4-6months, but that is all what I know. I would appreciate if someone with experience with this or similar situation can open my eyes if I am missing something. Thank you in advance.

HI Kate,

This reply is very much informative. I am in process to migrate to Australia.

 

I have got a positive outcome for my CDR. However I have never assessed my work experience at EA as I had not completed 3 years by the time I was submitting the CDR. Now I have completed 3years and planning to claim points for that. My agent says no need of assessing the work experience at EA and I can claim points by just updating it on my EOI. I am in a doubt about that. Is my agent correct?

Hi sathyajithsr,

this is very similar circumstance as mine, in difference that my experience I am gaining here in AUS now. I am also interested in question that you asked so does immigration will approve experience if it is not assessed by EA. as Kate was on this topic while ago, not sure if she wold be able to give us an answer, but hopefully someone else will. Finger crossed!!

I believe so, yes. You'd be issued a bridging visa once your 186 application goes in, which would allow you to keep working while it's processed.

Thanks MaggieMay24,

do you or anyone know how they calculate experience- is that how it is assessed by appropriate authority( engineers Australia ) say on Nov 2014 ,so it would be 2 yr and 7 months in that case not eligible for direct entry or on date of application so it would be end of apr 2015 which should be a bit more than 3 years in that case eligible for direct entry? Thank you for your response

Hi everyone,

i have been working for one employer from 11.4.2012. My 485 visa expires on 4.5.2015. I am a civil site engineer.

1. Am I able to apply for 186 visa using same employer that I am currently employed

2. As 3years of experience will be on 11.4.2015 - does it mean that my application should be lodged after that but before 485 visa expires( approx. 3 weeks)?

any advice would be appreciated,which way to go.

I can understand your situation.well the only advice i can give u is call 1800 040 070,employers hotline number.they are helpfull,even though u r an employee.i got most of my info from them.they will direct u as per your profession.

 

But as i told u earlier it works only for onshore.if u applying 119,its a bull**** story of experiences they demand

Once again,thanks mate.

I will try to contact them to find out more.Actually,my application would be onshore cause I am already in Australia.

Mate I had the same doubt about my profession.I called diac and basically they require registration or licensing from your local authority.for instance,I am a dental technician and my registration body is "Dental technician board of Queensland",which I have already provided.even though my assessing body is Trade recognition Australia.(which they don't require).I hope this clears your doubt.

Thanks smwarlock20,

but I am still in doubt.So ,when I rang Migration they told me 3 times different story,YEEES,NO and MAYBE is mandatory.I just want to know can I start to go in process before I apply,even Migration agents told me different story.So,sorry but I am still confused.I am trying to do everything what is in my power that they can't refuse my application,but I am finding that assessment will be a challenge because I have no much experience.

Anyway thanks a lot,so maybe I'll find someone in engineeringindustry but same situation.

Hi guys,

I see that you have much more problem than me at the moment,but does anyone can help me and to confirm to me is it mandatory that I have my skills assessment approved before I apply for 857 or it is not mandatory?My Authority Body is Engineers Australia and I am a civil engineer.

Thanks a lot

hi guys,

I am a civil engineer and also interested to apply for 857 visa as I have a potential sponsor who is willing to sponsor me.Because I did not start process of application yet I am just wondering is it mandatory that I assess my degree from overseas before lodgment or it is not necessary,but still I am eligible to apply for that visa.I am asking that because I dont have much experience and I suppose that will be a big challenge.I know that on the Immigration web site if it is necessary to allow you to work independetely that you have licence or registration you have to do that,which is not mandatory for civil engineer,I guess,but still I dont know how Immigration looks on that.

Thanks in advance

Hi Shikac,

 

Unfortunately I'm not sure if I'll be able to help you as I think your circumstances may be different to my husband's. The skills assessment part of my husband's application was dealt with automatically under the Washington Accord. My husband's university degree comes under the Washington Accord so all he had to do to get skills assessed as a Civil Engineer (23311) was to send a copy of his degree and his university transcript. Does you degree fall under the Washington Accord? If not then you are seeking recognition under the non-accredited route and I don't know anything about that I'm afraid. I'm sure someone else on the site has done it and they will be able to help you.

 

Separately from the skills assessment my husband needed to get his work experience assessed in order to claim points from DIAC for work experience. This sort of assessment is different from the non-accredited degree assessment I refer to above and it is very straight forward. As I mentioned in my post my husband provided references from former employers, a completed work experience summary (which is really just a list of who he worked for and the dates of his employment), a copy of his CV, and that was that. Engineers' Australia did not ask any questions and the application took about 3/4 weeks to process.

 

Sorry I can't be of more help.

 

Kate.

hi Kate,

thanks very much anyway.Yes,you are in right I have to do assessment for non-acredited University,actually process is more complicated with writing 3 career episodes and all other documents.I hope that I will find some answers on this site.

Thanks a lot

Hi Kate10,

I found that your husband is very experienced.I became interested to find out something more about skills assessment cause I am a civil engineer too.I dont have much experience approximately 2 years,but as internship and before graduation.I am a bit worried about that assessment because if it is failed it can destroy my all my dream.Namely,I contacted Engineers Australia and they told me that is possible to apply and to use some projects from my Uni,but I am concern about that because I dont know anyone who was in same boat. I would be appreciated if you(your husband) can give me more info about that how they are tough in assessing that and are they flexible for some cases.I know that your husband is more more experienced ,but maybe he can give me some advice or anything that can help me.I have written one career episode and now I am doing next one,but all the time worried.

Thanks a lot and wish you all the best