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13 hours ago, Quoll said:

He should have known that, it was well known at the time and it was rescinded in 2002.  You have been able to apply to get your citizenship restored ever since then.  He just wasnt paying attention.

Exactly. He took citizenship of another country when this was not allowed at that time. He regrets it now as realising the ramifications his decision making as a teenager has on his children. Many countries don't allow dual nationality like China, India, Austria, Netherlands, so he's lucky as being able to get it 'resumed'.

18 hours ago, Pneill said:

 

18 hours ago, Pneill said:

Sound like u know enough about the rrv and the pr so like my first comment any help in us doing it our self any tips for the application is welcome if not then no need to comment.

You ask on a free and open forum for free advise from members here but obviously didn't the answer you wanted to hear. You seem not to believe how hard it actually is to get a RRV after such a long time. By the way,  it doesn't matter how many family members you count who are already Australian citizens living in Australia - your mums and sister have no 'right of way'. You would definitively need professional advise as it's especially hard to reason why your elderly mum suddenly wants to come to Australia. The last thing the Australian Government wants are older people who might become a burden to their health system and they want migrants who contribute with certain skill sets.

I'm afraid it's not the role of the Immigration Office/Authority to guide you on your journey to citizenship. You either have to figure out your personal eligibility by yourself or employ a registered migration agent (they get paid to give migrants  professional advise and have a good knowledge).

I can't see why your short 1 year wait  would derail your life here taking into account that Permanent Residents have almost all the same rights like Australian citizens.

Or do you want to work for the Government your are bashing in your post? Would be hypocritical taking into account you left Australia for more than 1 year on a Student visa and are only living here for 3 years in a raw as a PR. You have to wait 4 years like anybody else and please stop blaming others/authorities when it's clearly your own misinterpretation of the law.

There is one thing missing in your questionary.

Are  your parents meeting the family balance test?  https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/contributory-aged-parent-864/balance-of-family-test

So you are either an only child or at least 50% of your siblings are residing in Australia? This is the make or break of any permanent Australian parent visas.

9 hours ago, can1983 said:

 

surely this is a simple case. Dad refuses child to leave which he has the right to do, mother cannot be forced to part from her child so must be allowed to stay its her human right unless the state determine she is unfit to parent

I agree with Marisawright. Also the right of fathers are completely overrated by some people and won't override the enforcement of immigration law. It misses the point simply because that woman has no choice in staying or leaving. The No of the father is useless as under the Den Haag Convention it covers the right of the child of residents of a country but here is the issue that the mother becomes a 'non-resident' (therefore no choice to stay and has to leave) and a child at that young age would usually if no drug addiction or anything else is wrong with the mother best be taken care of by his mum  as the main carer anyway (my personal opinion). The father can simply take residence in the home country of the mother or visit the child, as well as child + mum come back to Australia as visitors.

If money is an issue one of my friends took on a 2nd job for a certain period of time to fit in her 6 weeks partly unpaid leave to cover for the costs here in Australia and back home.

We have saved up very hard and used unpaid leave (partly) last year as haven't back for 5 years and wanted to stay for at least 4 weeks with our families to make up for all those years.

We also wanted to see more from Australia which we did because this is such a vast and beautiful country. Speak to your employer and ask for unpaid leave as many understand the 'special' needs of immigrants mainly because they come from migrant families, too.

Our parents were healthy but you never know what life throws at you, it could be a sudden accident etc. A guilty conscience is not helpful as a migrant, try to make up the missed time with Skype, phone calls, WhatsApp etc.

Many people want to migrate to Australia and cannot get a visa because they don't qualify. To allow that woman to stay would be unfair. She already got the rare privilege to secure a 5-year-visa from the former Immigration Minister so she could care for her parents - though Australia already had a sophisticated progam of 'in home care' for her parents in place where Home Support Workers would be paid carers paid from the Aged Care Progam of Commonwealth Australia. Anyway, that a 55 year old woman who stayed 45 years of her entire life n Britain and came here 10 years ago claims she doesn't know anybody in the UK any longer is just ridiculous and only wants to arouse pity.  I'm here more than 6 years and are still in contact with my best mates in my home country. Maybe the next step would be to claim that she doesn't speak the language anymore and only understands Australian English *sarcasm off*. Her parents wanted to migrate to the other side of the world and why should adult children feel obliged to care for them like others mentioned before. If possible it would open the flood gates for sure.

That man seemed to be heavily involved in criminal activities over decades and cruelty again animals - a no-go! Rehabilitation didn't work for him as he continued in drug trafficking instead of learning something out of being sent to jail and pick up a decent job afterwards to may become a positive role model for his grand kids. Deport him as he still has the luxury of being sent back to a Western country/island, actually a famous holiday destination where everyone speaks English very well. Personally I don't want such a grandpa around my kids.

Has your case gone to court?  I would assume yes due to the seriousness with driving without the L plate. Then immi knows anyway and you have to declare it. You have to sign in the citizenship app if you have ever a court case filed against you.

On ‎29‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 18:58, SUPERSTARDJ01 said:

 

 

most if not all states give free schooling ton489 holders you're partially covered by the NHS but yes you need medical insurance (which you should get anyway) I'm not saying the 489 is better or equivalent to the 189/190 visas because it isn't but it's still a viable option not a bad one either.

 

This is wrong as most states/territories apply school fees to temporary visa holders. My home state SA for example introduced school fees for temporary visa holders children attending public schools this year when you earn 59,000 AUD +.

On ‎29‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 18:58, SUPERSTARDJ01 said:

Oh and you can get a mortgage on a 489

If you get approval to buy a house in the first instance as the Government doesn't allow this without permisson

18 minutes ago, Melb2016 said:

 

 

Agreed marriage to an Australian citizen is not a bullet proof shield.

As regards people being deported due to criminal records - that is clearly irrelevant here as nowhere have I read this man having a criminal record.
 

 

This is not the point and only used as an example. The point is that people married to an Australian citizen AND with children and/or grandchildren can get their visa cancelled or refused. The reasons are quite irrelevant as this emotional media story was about a family facing separation due to one member of the nuclear family getting the visa cancelled/refused.  By the way, the man is still here without a visa as he didn't flew out to India.

There is another similar story where a couple (he's Australian, she was Italian on a temporary visa but working in a full-time job) married in Australia where the spouse visa was not granted and the woman ended with being forced to leave the country as she hasn't got a visa anymore due to the fact that he had sponsored another woman a 2 years before. Though he broke up with that woman before he met the new one DIAC still refused the spouse visa for the new genuine relationship due to technical grounds as people can't get partners sponsored too often in a certain time frame. There are so many pitfalls and risks.

17 hours ago, Melb2016 said:

The wife is an Australian citizen and has a life in Australia. The child is an Australian citizen with a life here. People suggesting the wife should just move away from her home country are making this sound like a pretty trivial decision. It can't be.

The man has been living here for 10 years and sounds like is still married to an Australian citizen. This is awful for the family and the child involved.

Married to a Australian spouse doesn't mean you are more privileged or getting away with everything. Immi had people deported who are married to an Australian citizen due to all criminal records and other breaches. Most of them had children or grandchildren here . Marrying Australians is not a protection shield and obviously to a marriage belong 2 people so his wife mixed it up as well

18 hours ago, SUPERSTARDJ01 said:

Sorry supposed to say automatic pr

There is no automatic PR as process for 887 can take a long time and no medicare access, not able to buy a house, in many states school fees for children apply, no support for children etc. The negative aspects on a temporary 489 far outweigh the waiting time for a PR taking into consideration the changes for citizenship which may come into affect in 2018 (longer waiting times)

• Quote: You’ve got people who are untrained in determining whether someone is in a genuine relationship making a decision on whether someone is in a genuine relationship,” he said. Untrained people  as claimed here - who often are parents themselves - would rather let the dad stay than cancelling the visa. Simply claiming that untrained staff of DIAC doesn't help as it makes it a even emotional story. Bad news sell better for the media anyway and just sweeping the relevant decision making and significant facts in this case under the carpet. Well, if the Federal Court AND Tribunal came to the conclusion that this is not a genuine relationship then this couple must have screwed it up. I also agree with the Centrelink story. Some people seem to not take into consideration that any action will cause consequences. And to put that poor little boy into the centre of that saga is not fair. Why can't the father apply for PR himself? He was here as a student long enough to obtain a degree. What about his work experience after University? Assuming he gained a degree, who knows... I also agree they can live together anywhere together as a family - besides Australia so no need to separate and shift the blame to Immigration when even the courts + Tribunal came to the same conclusion.

1 hour ago, AnneOz said:

This forum is amazing!! I just remembered I had a penalty notice for a minor traffic offence back in 2015 which I voluntarily took to court but was unsuccessful in disputing

You shouldn't have a problem getting your citizenship as only minor traffic offence but everything that goes to court has to be declared with IMMI. IMMI will regard 'forgetfulness' as bogus when they gonna detect it and IMMI will certainly not disclose the ability how they manage to find out when you read the story below.

Here's what Uncle google says and I'm sure Developer should have found the same: http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/punjabi/en/article/2017/08/01/ritnesh-kumar-denied-australian-citizenship-over-traffic-offences

Anyway, Developer should read the 'Good character requirements" and open his own thread.

6 hours ago, Rorz said:

If nothing shows up on your police clearance then you will be fine

This is wrong advise! How will Developer answer question 39? Please answer the following questions for yourself and any children
included in your application:
(a) Have you been convicted of, or found
guilty of, ANY offences overseas or in
Australia (include all traffic offences which
went to court, including offences declared
in your permanent residence application,
and any ‘spent’ convictions)?
(b) Have you been confined in a prison

YOU  HAVE TO DISCLOSE ALL CONVICTIONS AS FINES ARE ALSO CONVICTIONS AND NOT DISCLOSING TRUE INFORMATION CAN LEAD TO REVOKE YOUR AUSTRALIAN CITIZENSHIP AFTERWARDS.

Secondly, you have to sign the declaration at the end which could come back biting you: • I declare that the information I have supplied in this form is
complete, truthful and correct in every detail.
 YOU HAVE TO DISCLOS THIS INFORMATION AND SEEK APPORPRIATE ASSISTANCE FROM EITHER A REGISTRED MARA AGENT OR LAWYER.

Finally I've found our Grand Letter as a 176 PR back in 2011. It clearly stated the limiting condition for the secondary applicant (dependent one) Visa Condition 8502. Well not limiting really as we travelled together but made sure that the other half= main applicant went through Immigration as the 1st person entering Australia.

condition 8502: The holder of the visa must not enter Australia before the entry to Australia of a person specified in the visa. = Main Applicant

So you as the secondary applicant doesn't have anything like that stating in the grant letter? I would make sure to read it thoroughly in regards to travel rights for secondary applicants.

Of course is has an effect as entry not possible without the main applicant. Read your visa conditions in your grant letter. It's all explained. The OT's 1st entry is linked to the main applicant's one so be careful!

On ‎25‎/‎09‎/‎2017 at 21:02, ozpursuit said:

If this bill is about greater integration and contribution to the society, the 4 year wait is harsh. Someone said there is no difference between people who came here on direct PR visa vs the temporary visa. But there is.

• 5 years on 457 and one year PR. This person has contributed taxes for 5 years and had spent his hard earned money in the Australian economy. He has likely made his life here, enjoyed the company of his colleagues and friends.
• 10 years on student visa and one year PR. This person, just the same, spent and invested her money to gain an Australian qualification which must have been very expensive for an international student. She's likely working on the side and would've paid taxes. As with person one, she's made a life here, enjoyed the company of her Australian and international friends and had celebrated every occasion that is Australian.

If the bases of the bill are greater social integration and proven contribution to the society, why do those years that person A and B spent on temporary visa are overlooked by the citizenship changes?

I would even argue that those who came in as a direct RP would NOT compare to the contribution and degree of integration that person A and B would've demonstrated.

It is not the citizenship that must be changed, it is the permanent residency program that should be reviewed.

This statement is not just stupid and an insult to all tax paying and contributing PR's. The point is: it's completely wrong and PR bashing of an obviously envious person who is unable to apply for PR in the first instance.  Ozpursuit doesn't obviously know that students are only allowed to work 20 hours per week. Well, if the student he knows contributed more tax in 1 year as a PR I request proof how that works out! Many international students and domestic students pay a heck of student fees etc and the aim is to gain a reputable Australian University Degree therefore student visas are for students only not for migrants. Well, if somebody uses it as a back door for migration that's another story. I know many students abroad including myself who never had the intention to settle there. The purpose was simply to obtain an International recognised degree to enhance professional reputation.

Well,  temporary residents on 457 can apply anytime for PR if they qualify. Yes, I know that's the point and this forum is full of warnings and sad stories in regards to this visa and its associated pitfalls! Again, no proof how they pay more tax then PR's. How about evidence anyway? All stupid, unsustainable claims, actually not worth to discuss.

19 hours ago, Ken said:

No connection to the recent changes at all - it has said that for years. Presumably it's to give them time to get their paperwork in order (they know they invited you to the ceremony but they have to cross check that you actually attended).

PR will be cancelled on the day you gonna attend your ceremony . You can check that on VEVO. I have heard from people applying for a passport on the day of their ceremony and they were fine. With the '10 days waiting period' it's more a recommendation  I reckon as there are citizenship ceremonies with sometimes up to 500 applicants and if everybody would apply for a passport straight after, well if leave it up to everyone's imagination. My partner applied for a passport after 4 weeks as we didn't have any international travel plans.

Might be a good idea if your mum tries to resume her Australian citizenship first. Then you know where you stand. It also makes sense as your parents possibly visit you and the grandkids in Down Under and one day your mum may wish to stay with you permanently and retire in her country of birth. If your mother can resume Australian citizenship than it's easy for you otherwise I would contact the High Commissioner in London.

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10 minutes ago, starlight7 said:

From outside it looks pretty idyllic round Adelaide and South Australia but I must admit that most of the people I have met from there seem to want to leave or has left.  They say it is boring ( again, looks ok to me!) Possibly the small population does make it less likely to meet new people, I don't know. 

I heard the same said from people in Perth/Western Australia due to it's isolated geographical location!

Adelaide has still over 1,3 million inhabitants. It depends on how outgoing somebody is to meet new people in the end. Hobbies, club membership, the workplace, other parents are ways to engage with new people/finding friends. There are always other migrants to look for new contacts as well.

I believe even in Sydney or Melbourne it can be hard to meet new people with the wrong mindset or in the wrong (seclusive) suburb! It really is all about interests and finding people with the same preferences.

You are not weak but some jobs are not worth to stay. Everyone can become a victim of bullying.

Also hard to gather evidence against the bully, especially if you fight alone and colleagues and bystanders etc turn a blind eye to the dilemma.... You did the right think as mental and physical health is the most important asset we all have.