midwife2005

We first starting thinking about moving to Australia when we had our 2nd child in 2008. The recession had hit and we saw so many people around us struggling, losing their jobs. My husband is in the building trade so to say he was nervous was an understatement. He is a joiner by trade and so many of his friends lost their jobs. He has been a contrete supplier for over 10 years and luckily didn't have much debt so was able to tick over when many of his competition went under. His sister lives in New Zealand and my husband travelled in Oz on a WHV about 14 years ago. He loved it there and I had always thought that I would like to emigrate. So we talked about it and we decided to give it a go as things in this country seemed desperate at that point.

As as I said earlier we loved Perth when we activated in January. We know a few people there who had made the move themselves from the UK so we were able to get a good insight into how things actually are there. Some things seem better in Oz, some seem better in the UK. We loved the lifestyle the fact that you can make plans, come home after a hard day and sit out all night, the parks, the free bbqs. My teenage son who had always been opposed to the idea of moving loved it and was so much more active there. He never bothered with TV, but maybe because it's awful ;-). We loved how everything is really clean, I loved the supermarkets just cos I love trying different foods in different countries but hated how the shopping malls are carbon copies of each other. Clothes shopping is dire!!

Loved Dan Murphy's, thought I'd died and gone to wine heaven. The hospital I visited was really lovely and the working conditions seemed so much better than the UK.

We looked into my husband setting up his concrete business while we were there. We spent hours on the phone, in Internet cafes, on the phone to immigration to see if it was feasible. We found that the trucks my husband has are only used in the mines in Oz due to weight restrictions on the roads, the only thing similar was something called Concrete Taxi so he did think there was a gap in the market. But we found it difficult to find out the cost of raw materials while we were there and his trucks would have to be significantly modified to run on Australian roads and obviously the cost of getting them over here, taxes etc. So a lot of unknowns and the big question could he become established and successful.

Since we came home things seem to be on the up in the UK. My husband has been very busy work wise so much so that he's thinking of buying another truck. We know we're here for at least another 18 months as our teenage son started his GCSEs in September so we want him to finish and we always said we need to carry on as if we're staying just in case we do. We started saving as soon as we got back in January for when and if we do go so we're preparing for each eventuality. We still don't like where the UK is heading and I don't think that is going to change. As a family unit we are happy, but I honestly do believe that we would be there now if it wasn't for the business. It's easy to say money isn't everything and it isn't, it's the emotional impact that worries me more.

Thanks for taking the time to reply to me x

I don't sit in the "if it ain't broke camp", nothing was broken for us but the move has been good. On the other hand I cannot abide the "regret what you did and not what you didn't" clichés, because everything you do is doing something and the decision not to go when you have a visa is a very brave one too.

 

I also don't think that whatever was right for me must be right for everyone else. The thing that troubles me in your post is selling up a successful business. That is so much bigger than for rest of us just handing in our notice.

 

I expect it is time for the pros and cons list. We did our list, then we rated each item with a score out of five for how significant that item was and then totted up overall. Lists can be very helpful and creating it can clarify your thoughts.

Thats exactly it. Selling a successful business. I can hand my notice in, get a job in Oz and if it didn't work out come back the UK and get another. My husband on the other hand isn't in that position. People say 'oh just start again' and yeah he could do that but at what cost. Yes we could go to Oz and everything could work out and life could be good. But if it didn't then would we as a family survive that, emotionally. Would we be able to get over the fact that we gave up a good life, a good business in the UK for life in Oz that didn't work out. It's such a gamble. Lots to think about.

Hmm, so often asked glibly - based on posts on here: money, mental health, physical health, marital relationship, family relationships, kids education, career prospects (could go on but it won't!)

Everything you just said! When your already established, happy, not well off but ok, kids doing well etc etc we have everything to lose. Why did we want the visa again:confused:

My husbands business is the thing that worries me most. He's worked so hard to make it successful, survived the recession more or less unscathed and we would have to sell it. If things didn't work out in Oz then what would we come back to? We're doing good at the moment, family wise and financially. If we were in our 20's I'd think sod it, but coming back to nothing at 40+ terrifies the life out of me.

It's almost a year since we activated our visa, we had an amazing time in Perth and we were sure that we wanted to get back out there as soon as we could. But gradually as the months have passed all our insecurities have crept back in and it's driving me insane the whole will we wont we go dilemma. Everyone has their opinion and are constantly telling us if it's not broke don't fix it, which is the main thing that is bothering me really. Basically I'm scared shitless that we'll balls everything up by going, yet I'm sat here watching bloody Phil:Secret agent down under thinking, I want to be there:err:. At least we've got three and a half years to make our minds up eh!

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Last was $1.6399!! Becoming obsessed with refreshing XE!

I have my visa, activated it in January and now have four years left to make the move. The career that got me into Australia unfortunately is now the career I am desperate to get out of. I have no passion left anymore for midwifery and I am looking to retrain also. But time is now a factor, obviously not for immigration purposes. It's very difficult as I feel trapped in this profession, but I have decided that actions speak louder than words and instead of moaning about it I need to do something about it.......but what to do, now that is the question!

Jen

Also the so called friend who says "i so know what your going through"

My so called best friend did this to me, I kindly reminded her that her ectopic which was detected at 7 weeks was nothing compared to what i had just gone through, ( having a baby at 24 weeks, nursing her for two days until she passed away in my arms) and going through a funeral etc which were completely different, She hasn't spoken to me now for almost 12 years!!!!

​I gave her all the support at the time of her loss i could, but when i was at a loss she reverted it all back to her!

I have seen many women grieve over their lost little ones. A woman can be just as devastated over the loss of an 8 week pregnancy as woman who has gone to term and lost her baby. At the end of the day it is that woman's baby, her child and everything she hoped for has gone. Obviously what you experienced was devastating for you, but what your friend experienced was probably just as devastating to her.

Actually do tell us- I for one would love to hear, seriously. I have had four children -born in England specifically & all with complicated deliveries, all safe & well.

 

So what's happened? Are you telling us it's not actually like "One Born".... where the nurses have time to sit guzzling tea & chocolate & leaving the mums to get on with it? (slightly tongue in cheek but not entirely- my own experience was that they leave you to get on with it until the tough bit ):laugh:

 

 

And as for MH Nursing in Aus being all soft & supportive, uh-huh.......

That bloody programme infuriates me! :arghh: The fact of the matter is, women are left in labour because the midwives on delivery suite are looking after 2-3 women at the same time. As well as seeing admissions, answering the phone etc. Our unit is dangerously understaffed at present, morale is so low, sickness levels are ridiculous and because of the conditions we can't retain staff. It's not what I came into the job for, women are getting a raw deal and I get home from work feeling physically wrecked. I'm currently on the verge of tears most days. If I had time I would retrain but unfortunately time frames don't allow.

The only thing with Australia is I think the midwives don't have as much responsibility as they do in the UK. As far as I am aware they do not actually do the deliveries, that is left to the doctors though I may well be wrong. They are always short of nursing staff here I do know that.

Hi there

it depends where you work. Private hospitals doctors do the deliveries but in public hospitals midwives do them. I went to King Edwards to look around when I was in Perth and the staffing levels were so much better and the midwives were happy!!!! Not seen one of those for a while not in our unit anyway. Maybe I just need to keep my head down and try and get through it, it's soul destroying though.

xx

Thanks for replying.

The situation is becoming unbearable. We've had newly qualified midwives leaving midwifery all together, the turnover of staff is ridiculous and all the senior midwives who can go at 55 are going. It's frightening and most days we scrape through by the skin of our teeth. I know working conditions in oz are better but it's if I can make it till then. Feel trapped :-(

Hi

Planning on making the move in about 12+ months, currently working here as a midwife. Been qualified about eight years and gradually have become very disillusioned with my profession. Current working conditions are so poor I'm contemplating leaving midwifery all together. I wanted to get out to Australia and work as a midwife but I don't know if I'm going to last much longer. Staffing levels are appalling and the women are getting a raw deal not to mention that a major catastrophe is going to happen very soon.

I've lost my passion for the job and don't know if I'm going to be able to get it back, which is very sad. I'm a sexual health practitioner too but haven't had much post qualification experience. Are there job opportunities for this type of role in Perth? Just wanted to explore what other avenues may be available to me if any.

if anyone has got any knowledge of this role I would greatly appreciate any info.

xx

Will the transit hotels allow 2 adults, a 2yr old and a 4yr old in the same room or not? Will we have to book two rooms?! Planning on an 8-10hour stopover in Dec and making plans now...

 

thanks in advance

Hi

we stayed in a transit hotel in changi airport in December. Two adults and two children aged 13 and 4 all in the one room. We booked a triple with an extra bed in the ambassador transit hotel. It was fine.

jen x

Car recovery? Sounds like they had to pick up the car from somewhere other than where you collected it from?

No we picked the car up and returned it back to the airport!! They charged us $60 for booster seat hire when it should have only been $20 AND we've just had our credit card bill in and they took $33 off our credit card on two occasions before we'd even took the car back!!! So a car that we thought we owed a balance on of $1165 has ended up at over $1600! We also declined extra insurance. The company phoned us last night and told us that the total price quoted on our booking voucher was just the cost of the car??!!? I told them when you order a $30 meal from a menu you expect to pay $30 not $35 cos there are hidden charges they haven't told you about. Fuming!!!

Admin fee, car recovery, gst etc but when it says total price on the booking voucher then isn't that what you expect to pay? They are are trying to now say that the total price was just the cost of the car??!? Don't know where to go from here really or what we can do about it.

Sorry didn't realise about mentioning the company name oops!

Booked a rental car through a company for our reccie trip. Paid a deposit and was sent a booking voucher telling us what our final payment was at the airport. When we took the car back we were charged $500 more than we were quoted. We have been trying to get to the bottom of this since we got back over 4 weeks ago with no joy. So angry about this. Just be weary about the hidden charges, once you've given them your credit card details they just take money without even asking permission!!!

PM me for details of the company if you're interested.

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Hi,

its 20 hours or more per week you need to be working. I had reduced my hours to 15 after mat leave and then had to increase again to 22.5 to be eligible to apply :-)

jen x

The reason I didn't register with APHRA straight away after the skills assessment is because our timescales were different at that point. Before our Reccie we were looking to move over in about 3 years time, but after visiting we decided that we didn't want to wait that long. Will have to contact APHRA to see where I stand. Thanks for replying btw.

jen x

Hi,

I'm the main applicant who had the positive skills assessment as a midwife. Not yet registered with APHRA.

thanks

jen x

Hi,

We recently activated our visa in Perth and that is where we want to settle. We are hoping to make the move in about 12 months. I obviously haven't registered as a midwife yet, but have just being doing some research. Ielts is one of the requirements for registration, which I completed and passed in April 2011. Does Ielts only last for two years? If this is the case does that mean it will expire in April 2013 and therefore I have to do it again for registration purposes?? Not very happy if this is the case!

Thanks

Jen x

Glad you enjoyed it we go this Tuesday for a month to Rockingham and I can't contain myself now. It seams like a life time ago when we started the Visa application and now here goes....

I can't recommend enough going on a reccie. It put all my fears to rest and although its still scary it doesn't seem like such a big risk anymore. Enjoy your holiday, sooooo jealous :-)

Glad you had a great time,, when are you thinking if moving over for good?

 

Cal x

Unfortunetly it's going to be about 12 months. My husband has his own business which we have to try and sell. He's in the building industry and in this climate we may struggle. Hope things go as planned, if he had a job he could just hand his notice in I'd have put the house on the market right now and gone straight back. Fingers crossed we can sell.

So we're back now :-( worst luck. Could have just stayed there! We were in Mindarie Perth and I have to say absolutely loved it and now we are chomping at the bit to get back out there. We stayed in a house for four weeks and I was pegging washing out in the third week and was thinking in my head "I live here" then I remembered that I didn't and was gutted. It was expensive obviously cos we were spending pounds but we got over that after a week. The exchange rate is what it is and it's probably not going to change so we're just going to bite the bullet and take whatever money we have over there. Everyone we spoke to works as hard as they did here but as my lovely friend said "you just have a better day off" and at the end of the day isn't that what we all want. So we're off as soon as we can. Excited isn't the word, we are so looking forward to our new lives. It can't come soon enough :biggrin: