owendoyle

Hi Guys,

 

I'm not sure what I have done to deserve this but in any case this is my dilemma:

 

Employer received notification to sponsor my PR. My name etc on the authorisation.

I applied using the reference number etc given.

Just got an email saying advising me to withdraw my application as I won't pass due to me not working for the company for >2 years.... I wasn't even going for the TRT scheme. I've done my skills assessment, English test, medical etc and now find out I've been put under the wrong scheme.

 

Has anyone else been through this, can you change you application? I've spent 3k so far + medical. My 457 has now lapsed....

 

​Help!

That mistake will probably cost you $3k. I think you will have to re-apply under the direct stream. However get confirmation!

Ask for a refund, I doubt you will get anything from the money hunger b#%$@*. Don't ever assume logic or common sense. You are dealing with robots! If you said TRT on your form well they will assess you under TRT.

Maybe see a migration agent for best advice.

Tough break and best of luck getting it sorted. Hope you get a refund!

Finally got my visa granted today after an epic wait of 15 months (or 467 days)! Thanks pomsinoz for being a great resource and good luck to all those waiting.

Visa: ENS 186

Occupation: Science Professional

Method: 186, Non-DRC, Direct Entry

Location: CoE Parammatta

Timeline:

Applied for Nomination - 30/01/2012

Nomination Granted - 20/09/2012

Applied for 186 Visa - 25/09/2012

Case Officer Assigned - 30/04/2013

Meds and Police Clearance Submitted - 08/05/2013

Visa Grant - 10/05/2013

Owen :ssign19:

just got told by C/O that she would grant my visa as soon as my son's medical be cleared.

And the medical result was uploaded onto eHealt yesterday, any one knows how long it takes to clear out?

Wondering the same.

Hoping a few days but could be a week or two. I guess it depends on your CO and what they are currently doing, some go on leave for a week occasional.

for 186 visa do we need 3 years relevent experience or fulltime experience?

3 years full-time, with 20hrs+/wk being regarded as full time (to the best of my knowledge).

**This is an automated response. Please do not respond to this email**

Email Updated on 23 April 2013

ALLOCATION TIMEFRAMES

We will no longer be publishing allocation dates by processing centre as we are using a number of strategies to manage the caseload more efficiently. Generally we are managing allocations via the following:

Priority 1: Decision Ready, complete applications in ANSCO 1 & 2 occupations (by date of lodgement)

Priority 2: All other Decision Ready applications (by date of lodgement)

Priority 3: ANSCO occupations 1 & 2 requiring further documentation (by date of lodgement)

Priority 4: All other applications by date of lodgement

Agents should ensure that applications are as complete as possible at the time of lodgement. Case Officers may contact them with another opportunity to provide information if the case officer considers they require further information in order to make a decision. Contact by the case officer is by no means automatic or required under legislation.

We are working through our large caseload in the most efficient manner possible and thank you for your patience during this busy period.

____________________________________________________________________________

Bull$^#*!

Proof that immigration have scrapped allocated timeframes and now heavily prioritise DRC applications.

All respect to migration agents but giving them the golden ticket to much faster processing times is quite simply ridiculous, especially when its done retrospectively.

Dep. of Immigration.....you are the bane of my existence!

Congratulations Ben!!!

my pain is still going...................it has been 6 months now...non drc

Congrats Ben! Looks like DRC is the way to go if you want a visa processed in a respectable time-frame.

How long more do you think Big John? Their processing times are pretty off, especially with DRC's being processed so fast and non-drc taking ages.

http://www.immi.gov.au/about/charters/client-services-charter/visas/8.0.htm

I'm approaching 7 months now (14.5mts inc nomination) so in similar situation.

Happt to say our PR came though - yay

Big Congrats mate!!!

I'm glad the incompetence of the Dep of Immigration didn't cost you your visa. Big stress relief. I still find this quote quite hilarious!

You can not rely on advice received from DIAC general enquiries over the phone and they can not be held liable for giving the incorrect information.

Imaging going to a doctor and your then told, you cannot rely on the information you have received from this office. They would all be sued....

Still waiting for my 186 14.5 months on. I'm am estimating getting processed some time between now and my retirement! :twitcy:

Woo hoo!!!! PR Granted

 

 

Application filed 24.09.2012.

Acknowledgement letter received 08.11.2012

PR granted 08.04.2013.

Parrammatta office.

IT Professional

Timeline 6 months 16 day - phew!

Congratulations!! Damn long wait... Was it non-drc? (without agent)

My application was a day after yours so here's hoping!!!

WE GOT IT!!!!!

Nomination applied 28th Aug 2012 Non DCR Direct Entry

Visa applied 21st Jan 2013

Nomination approved March 2013

VISA GRANTED 6th APRIL 2013!!!!!!

 

We're on holiday currently - just thought I'd check my emails and what a lovely surprise!!!!

 

Good luck to everyone else still waiting!!

Congrats!!

LATEST UPDATE RE. ENS 186:

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:54 AM, NSW PSE <nsw.pse@immi.gov.au> wrote:

Thank you for your email. At this stage your application has not been allocated to a case officer. Once the application is allocated, a case officer will contact you within 7 days of allocation. We are currently allocating applications received in July and August 2012. Thank you for your patience.

Administration Team

Permanent Employer Sponsored Entry (NSW, QLD, ACT)

Parramatta Centre of Excellence

Department of Immigration and Citizenship

Telephone: 13 18 81

Fax: 02 8861 4439

Email: nsw.pse@immi.gov.au

Rupert - thanks for the reply but I thought they could be considered in 'parallel'... is that not right?

 

Owendoyle - your situation is exactly the one I'm hoping to avoid... yes I believe they have sponsored before quite a few times - good luck with your application I hope it comes through soon.

 

Doea anyone else know if the processing can happen side by side or does visa consideration only start when nomination is approved?

Thanks Rupert. I don't have much patience left with IMMI unfortunately.

I am led to believe that "IF" they have your application when they are processing the nomination application they will also assess your visa application in tandem. However if you apply after the nomination is approved then you are at the back of the queue again (like mine). Visa consideration only occurs once the nomination if approved. It just depends if they have it there with them or not.

The fastest way is currently applying DRC (decision ready) through a migration agent with nomination and visa sent together. You can be approved (all things going well) in maybe 4 months.

Best of luck with yours also.

Nothing will happen to your application until the nomination is approved, so I don't see any particular benefit in your submission.

The benefit is if you apply together (nomination and visa) they will be assessed together (waiting time: 4-7mths). If you apply nomination first (4-7mths), then visa (4-7mths) you could be waiting upward of 1 year! (or 15months in my case)

Given that it is a university, the likelihood of a problem with the employer nomination seems low to me and I'm inclined to submit visa application on receipt of the TRN.

 

Has anyone else been in this situation or has any views or advice?H

I'm in that exact situation now (waited for nomination to come through, then applied) and am in the 15th month of waiting (though there was a backlog last July with rule changes).

My advice: Send in your visa app once you get your TRN. I would imagine a Uni should have no issues sponsoring especially if they have done previously. They just have to give the "best" advice in your case and "recommend" you should wait so your $3000 fee is not at risk if in the very slim chance they are denied nomination approval. Just remember if they don't get approved you will lose your fee so try be as sure as you can that they meet criteria.

You can get a Medicare card on a 457, we had one almost as soon as we arrived...

Depends what country you are from. Ireland has a reciprocal agreement under 457 and cannot get a medicare card on that visa, on the other hand UK citizens can apply for a medicare card on a 457. Many cant get a medicare card until they apply for a PR visa (like 186) and I presume the OP didn't given the following question....

I have read that I can get my medicare cards by showing this letter, again can anyone confirm this?

Hi All

 

 

Can anyone tell me if they were able to access centrelink on the bridging visa?

I have read that I can get my medicare cards by showing this letter, again can anyone confirm this?

 

 

Angel

I am currently on a 457 visa with a current 186 application sent in. You can apply for a medicare card once you have received your acknowledgement letter that you have a valid application. I have one now and have used it.

To get your card pop into one of the Medicare Offices with a copy of your 186 application and acknowledgement letter and passport and you can apply for a medicare card. The card is only temporary, 1 year expiry.

This "may" enable you to access centrelink (though I am not sure on this). If they just need a medicare card then I guess you can.

I found this which might answer some questions about whether particular employers or occupations are being processed faster:

 

http://www.immiexperts.com.au/2013/03/11/ens-rsms-processing-times-and-decision-ready-applications/

 

Grouping of cases

In an attempt to better manage the caseload, applications are being grouped by occupation (to enable case officers to develop expertise and experience in those areas), by employers and also by agents (whose reliability in providing good applications is recognised).

That's a great post RobertaSparrow. Thanks for sharing that link. Good summary of what we were told in dips and drabs.

I guess I was right with IMMI case officers working on specific occupations, therefore having slightly different time-frames. They actually do seem to be getting their act together now so you should be processed in no time being a "recognised" DRC application.

There is no rhyme or reason to how things are being processed. 6 months on the 23rd March. Our application was DRC with nomination and through an MA who has processed several others from the same company, i.e. the company I work for.

 

So I do not think we get preferential treatment at all, just relived of all money and hope. Yes they have pretty much screwed things up personally. Ho hum this is Australia and nothing is ever simple, this what they call living the dream!!! If it was Christmas at this point I would say "Bah Humbug".

That was pretty unlucky on your part after going through an agent. You should have been allocated a case officer by now but I remember IMMI released a message (last Nov) saying that they could not identify DRC from non-DRC so you were obviously one of the unlucky ones caught up in this. This was the message so may be worth a try if you have not already:

02-11-2012, 07:45 PM

"At the moment our system is not readily identifying applications declared as “Decision Ready” by a registered migration agent. As an interim measure we suggest that you send an email to the relevant processing office mailbox advising that the application is decision ready with the TRN number highlighted in the subject line. Please ensure that the application is decision ready"

I know, I can't really explain why we went through so quickly either - apart from front loading everything so it was ready to be processed from day one.

 

I have often wondered if it is a bit down to who your employer is, and what job you do... whether it is quite specialised for example. But who knows!

Yeah, I front loaded my application too but I guess that doesn't make a difference to an application sitting on the bottom of a pile (figuratively speaking). You may be right that it could be job / skills dependent. (eg. A case officers deals with all "engineering" or "I.T." applicants though they are meant to work chronologically from what I am told)

Keep up the good advice anyway. Much appreciated on this forum.

No, this certainly isn't the case. Our application was non DRC, we did it ourselves with no agent involved. Also went through Parramatta. The beginning to end process was 4 months and 10 days.

I obviously know MA's and IMMI are not connected. It is just very convenient (and quite lucrative) that they are given special treatment by immigration. Yes, it speeds things up. I guess its a bit similar to paying for queue jump tickets when boarding a plane!

I also wonder if immigration may have a fast track system for employers who have previously sponsored people. 4 months and 10 days is incredible! Especially when you consider I sent my nomination in on January 30th 2012 and my application was sent 5 days after nomination approval (a combined wait of almost 14 months so far)

Although that's a great response for you, I on the other hand have lost total faith in the Department of Immigration's ability to process anything in a timely (and fair) fashion, provide any sort of reliable information over the phone, and funniest of all, not be held responsible for misleading advice given! (migrations agents often quote this!)

As indicated on this forum by the many posts which I have read, they are seriously screwing with people's lives by changing rules quicker than they can keep up with and sometimes providing false information which crucial decisions are made.

On the day I get PR grant (hopefully!) I will first be celebrating the fact that my 7 year relationship with the department is finally over!! :jiggy:

(sorry for rant...I'm usually quite positive!) :smile:

I know it sucks! Well I feel better knowing I am not the only one, but also feel like we've been forgotten...

I cant even check the status because the current correspondence is with the employer and diac, not me.

Appears they are smashing people who chose to do it solo without an agent with huge waiting times. Waiting 6 months now for visa app to get a case officer (non drc, 186, paramatta). Already took 8mths for nomination to be approved.

Use an Migration Agent.....looks like 2 month wait maybe!

Are MA's and Dep. of IMMI in business together by any chance?? :huh:

Patience is right! Applied for Nomination in January 2012. Once approved (8mts, Sept 12) send Visa Application in (186, non-drc, paramatta). Over 5 months now and still waiting for any form of communication.

Patience...:SLEEP:

Also how could i prove that i am a permanent resident if this visa is electronic?

Although you don't necessarily "need" one you can pop into any Dep of IMMI offices (http://www.immi.gov.au/contacts/australia/) and get a visa label put on your passport.

Oh and be warned, that pretty sticker will set you back a nice $70 per person.

You can not rely on advice received from DIAC general enquiries over the phone and they can not be held liable for giving the incorrect information.

 

Yes. Useless is an understatement. Here's a photo I took the last time I visited the Dep of Immigration:

Understood, albeit it is understandable why I am frustrated.

 

In my email from the case officer, it states: Please confirm whether you are satisfied with changing the streams.

 

I am hoping that I will not have to cancel my current application and have to pay for another application, and that I can simply provide the additional info required for a direct entry stream.

Im responding to the email now.

Well that sucks. How can people get valid info without going to a Migration Agent?!

Can you get a skills assessment done asap? Also make sure they will accept it as you have already logded your visa application. Seems like another Catch 22 situation.

My fiance applied in the beginning of August, DRC, Parramatta. He just received his visa grant letter about a week ago. Good luck to the rest of you still waiting!

Thanks for update. Congratz!

I am not sure if it speeds things up to apply before nimincation approval? I have read on here people who's nomination is approved then days/weeks later the visa is approved, alternatively I am sure there are people who put both in and are waiting months between? I think the system is so new it really is luck of the draw?!

It can basically take half the time if you submit them together. My understanding is:

Nomination and Visa together = 5-6month wait for case officer, nomination assessed and if approved visa assessed.

Nomination and Visa NOT sent together = 5-6 month wait for case officer, nomination assessed and if approved..visa application sent. 5-6month wait for case officer, visa assessed.

I applied for 856 nomination in January 2012. It was finally approved in September. Applied for visa (under new 186 visa, non-drc, no agent, direct entry, paramatta) on Sept 25th and am still waiting for case officer. So basically 1 year + now!

Even a cricket game moves faster than Immigration.

Good luck with your app!

Any input is much appreciated.

Back on topic, Would love to know if any NON-DRC ENS 186 applications have been assigned case officers? (I seriously doubt it but just asking!)

I know DRC ones have already but are us non-DRC once doomed to wait until they clear the old 856 cases (June backlog).

Really should have submitted Nomination (Jan 30th 2012) and Application together. :no:

what reasons might stop the nomination approval?

Probably training requirement or market salary would be the big two. But obviously all conditions need to be met. My sponsoring company was very new so I was a bit worried about the training requirement. I was the only permanent staff member at the time of application (apart from directors). Still passed but I waited until it was approved before sending my visa application.

My second question is I have received an email to say the nomination will take 5 -7 months to be approved and I have been told that my visa app will take 5-7 months to approve; if I wait for my nomination to be approved before I submit the application will I then have to wait a further 5-7 months or will it then be a case of immigration just processing the app? Alternatively if I submit my application before nomination approval will this speed up the process or will it not make a difference and I'll still be waiting a further 5-7 months after approval - in which case I may as well wait for approval!?LMW

Yes. From my experience applying for nomination first (took 8 months) and application after (still pending but been told 5-7months) I may be waiting twice as long as someone who submits nomination and visa together. It is likely that your case officer will review both together.

So you can gamble $3060 to (potentially) save 5-7months. I chose not to!

I am not 100% certain that this is the case for everyone but it is for me. A good MARA registered migration should know your chances of nomination approval if you visit one.

Best of luck!

Hello everyone,

 

I got my visa 857 granted july 2011, my 2 years contract would finish in 8 months time, however my employer has been under a lot of pressure and well, making story short most likely going bankrupt.

 

I been in the country over 4 years in different visas, I called DIAC and they advised that i could apply for citizenship, so i did. I applied about 2 months ago still waiting to get an appointment to do the test (I recently called they said they had big loads of applications so would take some time, not sure how many months)

 

 

I been reading the forums and I believe DIAC wont remove my PR if my employer goes bankrupt, due that I been working over a year with them and I been proving genuine effort is this correct?

 

This should not even be a DIAC issue. It would only come to their attention if you were reported by someone, such as your employer. Even then you have given your best effort to stay employed in a regional area. No need to stress I reckon!

An immigration rep at an expo in Sydney was saying that they would only cancel a PR visa in very exceptional circumstances, such a fraud and someone scamming a company and leaving after like two days.

If they close, find a new position anywhere in Australia. Good luck with Citizenship!