mickyb

Hi could we have some more information please. We are currently still I'm the UK and looking to move to Australia. My partner is fully qualified carpenter and joiner. Level 3 and also has a diploma in carpentery. He served in the British army for also as a royal engineer.

Hi Leanne , I've got lads at the moment but I'm always taking on more jobs , the work situation is very good here at the moment .

Im based in Redcliffe on the Northside of Brisbane and most work is local . Have you got a date your arriving in Aus yet ?

Cheers Mick

Carpenters wanted North Brisbane , Redcliffe . Ongoing work for right people.

PM for details .

Good on the customers and good on the guy for calling it out. ,proving australia is not the racist hell hole some like to imagine . If I was the guy i'd open a Brazilian themed coffee bar , make the most of the publicity and watch business flourish .

Beautiful country and considered it , but the house prices in relation to wages was far too great . I'd love to semi retire there and open a guest house in Wanaka .

I glad you mastered the English test. Imagine how it must be for those without English as a first language? Evil regimes sadly dominate in Australia over recent decades. No argument there. They say we get the politicians we deserve. Even Australia for all their apathy surely deserve something a little more principled?

Same test , lower pass rate for non English speakers first language .

There's little need of diplomacy on here. Facts are water of a duck's back to those in the hate camp. laughable being for the most part migrants themselves. Evidence is a plenty on conditions that human beings are being kept and should be an affront to every clear thinking Australian. What happens in UK in regards to entry is another subject. Start a thread on that if feel the need and I will respond accordingly. This one is clearly on the abuse under going in detention centres put in place by Australian governments regardless of colour.

id say that the uk container death is very relevant to the boat deaths considering both were looking for better lives , taken advantage of by unscrupulous smugglers interested only in money . I also find positive stories much better than detriment . Again I don't see the hate camp

as you describe them. Opinions based on their thoughts and facts the way they see them. Carrot and stick , the carrot to me was that story .

I trust they brought you forward to the front of the queue?

Nope , still about three and a half years in total. Plus the possibility the wait might be longer or at all as the skills list changed after I'd paid all my money .luckily I passed the English test for additional points . Then the extra payments and even at one time being told my baby might not be allowed in on a holiday visa , as he'd no intent on returning to the uk , at 3 months old . Evil regime that labour one was I tell ya .

I wouldn't call you a hater. (Although I have previously called you unhinged). But we're all economic migrants. Why do you post to a forum full of them?

I'm an uneconomic migrant . I didn't come for more money .

You rather spoil your pretend openness on the debate by denigrating those not in favour of ill treatment of folk for political short term gain, with the term" the supposed nice guys do little for their cause" and "righteous, your an idiot. Nothing said on the side that refuses debate and repeats slogans and support a system that treats human beings with such vile contempt with any sort of sanction or criticism.

 

Rather obviously there is next to no debate as the haters have dug in and no chance of changing their mind set. Don't care to be honest. Just ensure that such bigoted and ill informed posters do not get the last word in.

pretend openness ? There's plenty here that can get there point across with out abuse , as for haters. Only one I can see , not sure if he's a genuine hater or escapee. I still don't believe that Sri Lanka is a genuine source of asylum seekers . And still no evidence posted as I've asked before ,does that make me a hater. ? . No wonder they're digging in, are they supposed to be bullied into changing their minds ? You and harpo are hardly coming across as ambassadors of diplomacy are you. People have genuine concerns over the validity , number and conditions of travel

. Take the case of the afghan Sikhs in the uk container. One dead. , should the smuggler be given medals for helping them to sanctuary or prosecuted for manslaughter ? Under your rules they'd be heroes wouldn't they. ?

http://mobile.news.com.au/national/inspiring-tale-of-former-refugee-dr-munjed-al-muderis-and-war-hero-michael-swain/story-fncynjr2-1226849124080

this is the story that change my stance completely. Make sure you read it .

Every time I read one of these threads , I start with an open mind and sympathy for boat people and the children. Then I read the same people deriding opposing views , name calling and questioning of intellects .

The suposed good/ nice guys do little for their cause when they resort to that level of debate. I'm righteous , your an idiot .

do you really believe you can alter people's points of view by treating them as simpletons ?

when was the last time any of the ' good guys ' wrote to their MP or organised a protest outside the Indian embassy to put pressure on a more local solution ? How about a march to get all those other countries to sign up to the resolution ?

My own personal view , no children shouldn't be locked up on camps , even if that camp is better or safer than where they left . And they'd be better off with their parents out as well . I'd grant temporary work / resident visas . The problem of course is that they'd be a hell of a lot more boats coming . There are over a billion people in the world who would be better off in tent in a camp . Luckily notmany can afford the people smuggling route .

I'm no climate scientist but I believe in probabilities. If 99% of climate scientists agree that carbon emissions are responsible for global warming, then I'm with the climate scientists all the way.

 

Put in another way, if you see 100 doctors, and 99 of them inform you after performing the appropriate diagnostic tests that you have cancer, then I'll gladly take their advice.

 

The doc who tells me that I have a bad case of dropsy and that I need to say 10 hail Marys and everything will be fine...we he can f45k off, thanks.

 

There really shouldn't be this level of debate over global warming. If Tony Abbot was around at the time of Copernicus, we'd still be believing the sun revolves around the earth. Thank god for science...if you'll excuse the pun.

You misunderstand , the scientist believe in climate change, but there is a sizeable element that believe the cooling of the seas from melting ice caps could lead to ice age conditions in parts of Europe that benefit from the warm streams . I listened to a program before explaining why the uk is warmer than it should be geographically. . It's interesting stuff , many views on the effects .

Yes actually Iam a survivalist thats why I moved to the wilds of Tassie..We grow our own fruit, vegetables, have chickens..I catch my own fish, collect shellfish...and happy in the knowledge that when the **** hits the fan which is very,very close, we may have a good chance of survival here when the cities collapse under sheer human pressure..and chaos persists...But most people never spare a though about what is coming soon, as long as asylum seekers are okay and Geelong won the footy, and people continue to produce people at an alarming rate, what does it all matter..The end is near..

Lucky you get the internet in the wilderness !

I don't know the circumstances or if they played any part in rebel activities . I don't think they should be sent back , nor released until they've had full security clearance .

I am opposed to surrendering Australia's sovereignity to the UN, when the UN is dominated by anti-democratic countries. You, of course, are opposed to the nation-state, and want us to do everything the UN tells us to do.

 

Every time 'we', 'we' being the Western democracies, try to do something worthwhile, the bloody Russians or Chinese will veto it. And look who is running to help in Iraq? Yes, it's the Western democracies, whilst Saudi Arabia and the Emirates do nothing, ditto the Russians and Chinese.

 

The 'science' of global warming is unproven. For the last 20 odd years, the global temperature has stabilised. There are far bigger threats to humanity.

There are quite a few scientists who believe global warming could lead to global cooling .

Didn't Obama say much the same thing about Scotland ? Are world leaders now to keep their mouths shut over all foriegn affairs , or maybe only if they're assisting in emergency aid drops or crash investigation. The one sided blinkered vision , especially from these liberal folk never fails to amaze me. Maybe unhappiness in their own lives drives them to seek out targets for their vitriol .

I disagree. The SNP doesn't care what your nationality is; only that you reside in Scotland and care about what happens in Scotland. There are plenty of groups of all Nationalities, religions, creeds actively participating alongside and affiliated with the SNP.

 

The "nationalist" associated with the likes of the BNP and other parties of that ilk is an entirely different type of individual.

I wasn't comparing the bnp with the snp , more the way people describe ukip as little englanders , ukip wants to restore power to the uk and the people who live there , where ever they may originate from , religion and so on. Yes , it probably would change the entry rules , but only in line with non EU nationalities. Is the Scottish vote open to all residents of Scotland or is there a time in residence criteria ?i do believe that any party formed to call for English independence would be branded racist by at least a sizeable minority .

Yes but what you dont seem to understand is this..From my point of view I dont believe a single word this Govt says about asylum seekers..i dont believe that the boats are sinking or have ever sunk...Govt are liars..

Do you think the government pretends there's off shore detention centres just to upset lefties ? I reckon you need to find an Indian psychiatrist .

Sorry if you dont like my views, but i couldnt care less..I dont like people much, there are too many of them in this world, most are false and all the chaos in this world is caused by humans.Our race is rather like a virus..so I have no interest in being surrounded in a multicultural melting pot, and that is why i moved to the wilds of tasmania, surrounded by my wild animals and peace and quiet...and away from the human chaos..I mean whats the point of moving from the chaos of the UK to the chaos of Sydney or melbourne, its beyond me..

That doesn't mean you have wish for the sinking of boats with children on , I doubt they've ever done anything seriously wrong or fully understand the situation they're in. I hope you never need the services of an Indian doctor , would you refuse it. ?

Not everybody has an interest in the greasy pole/ladder of conventional success. I cannot see how someone on $42,000 would be the same as on $80,000. I certainly notice a vast difference from being on low wages in the 90's to more recent times, but don't have benefits for kids which may be over generous in some areas but hardly akin to earning half.

Not necessarily the greasy pole , but most would want better pay to provide an improved lifestyle for their family. A $17,000 tax bill , loss of rent allowance of $100 a week , reduction in child care benefit , extra Medicare and loss of other perks left me about $70 a week better off . Lesson learnt , now a trust fund that splits income with the mrs knocks over 70% off the tax bill , new vehicles in the company name and a few other alterations from the accountant . I don't suppose employed people can benefit like that.

A government tax system should encourage people to do better , educate and upgrade them selves with out overly penalising them .

What on earth has the Dalai Lama got to with anything.

No one takes anything he says seriously.

I think he's great . Warmth , a sense of humour and a great philosopher

Guess the danger is people turn to extremes like the UKIP (at east it sounds extreme to me, nasty undertones of racism, xenophobia etc). So we just put up and shut up it seems. Alternate votes between one or other two major parties and feed into the media preferences or ' dish of the day'

Why is it only English ' nationalist ' parties that are 'racist. '

the Scottish national party . It's own people it's priority , no claims of racism by anyone else .

As for Australian politics , it needs a party that will represent the normal working person. I was chatting to some one yesterday about wages . I worked out that some one earning $42000 with one child and the rent subsidy , child benefit , nursery discount,medical discounts and tax bill is as well off as some one earning $80,000 after all those considerations. That seems crazy to me and is no incentive for people to take a step up the ladder .

not sure if or who I would vote for when Im able to . I've chatted to a liberal politician and was gob smacked by their stupidity and hypocrisy . Can't ever seeing my voting for labour .

Well no a true democrat allows the person the right of choice. That includes the right to reject. Of course should be allowed to choose from their cultural/religious background if so wish. No social engineering. Less regulations and more freedom. All have the right to be respected as long as not infringing on another's right to their freedom. That right does not include the right to be abusive to another due to their sexuality, race, religion, age, appearance.

Id describe only being able to marry your cousin as social engineering . Of course you should be able to marry within your own or any culture but it should not be compulsory , or result in threats , injury , ostracisation or death as so often has been the case . That clearly isn't the case in certain ethnic enclaves in the uk . It's a superiority thing . You seem to be contradicting yourself , free thought if you think like me . Would you still let some one in if they had racist thoughts but didn't practice them?

I don't understand the multi cultural utopia you seem to be grasping at . True it would be boring if we were all the same but I wouldn't dismiss living any where because it was too white , too british or too white australian . I'm quite happy to say " this is a nice place , it's by the sea. " regardless of its ethnicity .

but I do miss a good curry house !

ad hominem. Ouch

Quid pro quo , Latin allways works so well to suppress the minions and elude an air of superiority over the fools who disagree. Unless you helped your 12 year old to Latin homework .

And they must be fools if they don't agree with you harpo , why don't you just put the world on ignore . Then you can spend hour after hour agreeing with yourself untainted by ignorance .