fluffy

Hi fluffy.

 

I'm in the UK at the moment. If your parents would like to discuss their visa strategy with me they can call me at the Go Matilda office in Southampton on 023 80 30 25 25 - I'm happy to have 10 minutes on the phone with them as a freebie.

 

Best regards.

Hi Alan

thank you you so much for your reply. I have passed the details on to me parents.

I do have a slightly random question about when it comes to making payments. (I'm so confused) can I pay by debit card. Or what's the difference between a post office money order and a bank cheque.

Thanks

I have a little question - when it says about making payment by credit card does this only mean credit card or can you use a debit card? I don't have a credit card.

Also the bank cheque is that the one where you go into the post office and pay and they fill out the cheque slip to be sent off.

Thanks

Hi,

If they have applied for the 173 but have now decided to go for 143 they will have to begin the application all over again. They might as well stick to the original plan as it will end up costing more in the long run and take more time. That's assuming I've guessed which visa is already applied for correctly.

Let us know if its a different one.

Hope this helps,

Val

Hi vava

yes they have applied for the 173 and now wanting to go for the 143, they know they will have to pay again for the application they were not planning on moving over until they got the 143 anyway so they timeframe of actually moving to Aus would only be extended by a month or two. I think they are no worried that if something happens to them or family in the 2 years of apply for 173 and getting 143 they have wasted their money.

It's just so much money to spend, if they have the 143 approved they will moved straight away.

Hi,

Nice area - near Manly? Been there a few times. Our son lives in Brisbane, daughter in Helensvale so we will be staying with them initially, then hope to buy in Ballina (north NSW) which is only 2 hours south of Brisbane. Would love to join you and Maisiedaisy for a very large bottle of something - it's a date and look forward to it. First one there reserves the table!

 

xx

hi Petina

I live close to your daughter, I'm in Labrador.

Hopefully getting my parents to move here as well

Hi fluffy

 

Do you mean that your parents have initially applied for a 173 and want to change it to a 143?

 

best wishes

maisie

Hi Maisiedaisy

yes that's correct, they have paid the application fee and have now been asked to make payment however they want to now just apply for the 143, they understand they will have to pay an application fee again however as they were not planning on moving here until they had paid for the 143 they are now concerned that should something happen to either of them they have paid all that money for nothing where as if they withdraw from the 173 and apply for the 143 they will move over as soon as the visa is granted.

I don't know what it was like for others but they are so undecided about which visa is the right one and should they pay all that money or just use it to visit every year.

If they withdraw does it have an affect on them applying for another visa?

thanks

Hi all, I've not been in here in sometime but looking for any info about parent visas. My parents have put in for the contributory parent visa completing it in 2 stages. Currently they want to withdrawn and put in a new application for the full parent visa. Does anyone know if they are any consequences of with drawing an application and reapplying for another visa?

Good of luck to those still waiting

Hi Phoebe

 

I need to research the whole medical thing more myself but I can let you know the experience we had 2 years ago when we visited our daughter in Brisbane. Unfortunately 2 days into the holiday hubby suddenly developed pains in his chest. Luckily it turned out to be nothing serious but he received emergency treatment locally and then they sent him by ambulance to the main hospital in Brisbane central to stay overnight for observation. Didn't cost a thing not even for the ambulance - they said everything was covered by the reciprocal arrangement with the UK. This is how it works if you are a visitor and I'm pretty sure emergency treatment etc is covered by Medicare but not the ambulance when you have permanent residency. Hope this helps. Angie x

As soon as you arrive head to medicare to get your medicare card!!! Depending on your visa type or visit type you can get a visitor medicare card or a perm res medicare card either way get it as soon as possible!! In QLD you pay your ambulance fees in with your electricity which is great as in Vic when I was there is was a seperate bill.

Once you have your medicare card any medical visits you have to pay for (should you not be bulk billed) you can claim some money back.

How does emergency health cover work in Oz for our age group.

 

My daughter has a 'bulk bill' doctor so I understand that and I know UK had a reciprocal agreement with Oz but what happens if you for example took suddenly ill or had an accident that required hospital treatment/stay?

 

Way my healths been the past 15 months feel I need tto clarify this :swoon:

 

Phoebe

Hi Guys

bulk billing means medicare pay for the docs, I was on my perm res and had to be taken into hospital for an operation, I didnt have private health insurance but as it was deemed necessary I didnt have to pay for it. I pay to go to the doctors about $70 a visit but get some back from medicare bulk billing docs are the way to go though - They can help to get all sorts bulk billed - scans, x-rays. Dental work on the other hand is costly. As far as I'm aware there is no "medicare" for dental work

Well that's all our belongings gone! I have to say that the two guys from John Masons did a fantastic job packing our things and everything went really smoothly. Would definitely recommend them. We complete on the house tomorrow and then it's goodbye to our family home of 31 years. Strangely neither of us feel sad, we haven't had time to stop and think; it's just been full on for the last few weeks. It will great to just chill out for a while!! I think this calls for another glass of wine! Ha ha!! Angie x

Hi guys good luck with the move, I live in the redlands at Wellington Point, such a lovely place to be. Also hoping to get my parents out here soon. I would love to know how you settle in and also how you go with making friends and everything (some news to tell my parents and hopefully make it easier for them to move here)

Good luck

Well that's all our belongings gone! I have to say that the two guys from John Masons did a fantastic job packing our things and everything went really smoothly. Would definitely recommend them. We complete on the house tomorrow and then it's goodbye to our family home of 31 years. Strangely neither of us feel sad, we haven't had time to stop and think; it's just been full on for the last few weeks. It will great to just chill out for a while!! I think this calls for another glass of wine! Ha ha!! Angie x

Thanks Fran

I really hope they do choose to come out on the temp visa just to see how they will like it. I know Australia is really big on Baby boomers and those older getting new jobs and staying in the work force longer so I'm hoping that this will give them more of a chance to find jobs. Thanks for asking about jobs for me.

Hi Guys

Been a while since I've been on PIO but I am desperately trying to get my mum and dad here. I have been in Oz for 4 years now and live in Brisbane. My mum is very very keen but my dad is very worried about the cost/finding a job when he is here and worried about if they dont like it they will have nothing in the UK to go back to. My dad has his own business in the UK and would be selling his machinary or moving it here, they are currenlty looking at applying for the temp parent visa for the 2 years and my brother renting their UK house, then they would live with me here in Oz. Meaning they would have the 2 years to settle and decide if they want to stay.

For me them moving here is everything and I really want them to come here, they are worried that at their age late 40s dad turning 50 next year that they wont get jobs.

How have other people their age gone finding new jobs? I think my dad would like to be self employeed again - in landscaping- but then again how easy is it to build that customer base. Would many places look at him for a job in landscaping being 50?

Any advice on parents moving here would be great.

Also how easy has it been to make new friends?

thanks

Hi Fluffy

 

The temporary CPV does not take any longer to be processed than an application for a permanent CPV. Joanne is getting muddled up between the Contributory Parent visas and the non-contributory Parent subclass 103 visa.

 

Landscape Gardeners are in demand in Australia. At 47, Dad is not too old for a skilled visa as long as he can find a willing and eligible employer to sponsor him. He will find the whole thing considerably easier if he looks for an employer-sponsor who is based in Regional QLD rather than anywhere too close to Brisbane.

 

I would suggest that you send a PM to Linda Irvine, who has recently gone down the very route that I suggest for your Dad:

 

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/members/linda-irvine.html

 

Linda's OH is a Plumber/gas fitter aged about 54. The relevant child has Permanent Residency in Oz and lives in Brisbane. Linda's OH found an employer-sponsor in Gympie, QLD, which I gather is about a 2 hour drive from wherever their child lives in Brisbane. To start with, the employer offered a temporary sc 457 visa:

 

Temporary Business (Long Stay) - Standard Business Sponsorship (Subclass 457)

 

They accepted the 457 visa and moved to Gympie. Later, the employer offered to sponsor them for an RSMS visa subclass 857:

 

Skilled Workers Permanent Visa Options- Employer Sponsored Workers - Workers - Visas & Immigration

 

The RSMS visa was granted earlier in 2010, so Linda and her OH are now Permanent Residents of Australia in their own right. The deal is that Linda's OH needs to stay in Regional Oz for another 2 years after the grant of the RSMS visa, preferably working for the same guy in Gympie but once the two years is up, they can wave goodbye to the employer in Gympie and can move to wherever their child lives in Brisbane if they want to. What they do, and where they go, after the two years is up will be totally in the hands of Linda's family alone.

 

Does your Dad have any formal qualifications as a Landscape Gardener? If so, how did he get those qualifications? Did he get them as a result of doing an apprenticeship as a Landscape Gardener or did he simply do the job for many years and then go to College later in order to obtain a formal qualification? What qualification does he hold? I need to know the level of the qualification as well as its name, please.

 

If he does not have any formal qualifications as a Landscape Gardener, it might be well worth Dad's while to obtain the Aussie AQF III qualification in this occupation instead:

 

https://www.australianskillassessments.com/index.php

 

Darren Le'ake, who runs Australian Skill Assessments, is based in the UK and the whole thing can be done from within the UK.

 

If Dad got his AQF III certificate and then got a positive skills assessment from TRA under Pathway E, it would be easier to argue that Dad comes within the age-exemption for an RSMS visa:

 

Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (Subclass 119/857)

 

As against that, it would seem that your Parents are eligible to apply for a Contributory Parent visa instead. Whether they apply for the Temporary CPV 173 visa to start with and upgrade it to the Permanent CPV 143 later or whether they apply for a CPV 143 from the outset is irrelevant. It will take 18-24 months to process the application regardless of which CPV they apply for:

 

Family - Visas & Immigration

 

I'd be inclined to apply for the CPV 143 from the start and be done with it, which is what we decided to do about my mother in the end. I was in two minds about which one to choose (giving me a choice is a Bad Idea!) My sister, in Perth, said, "If it is possible to apply for the CPV 143 visa immediately then do so. Otherwise we will be messing about with DIAC, form filling and visas for 3 or 4 years. Let us do this once only instead and get it out of the way once and for all!" So I did as she said.

 

The CPV is the visa they could definitely get and they could get it relatively quickly. It is not cheap but it is do-able, certain and relatively quick. It is the bird in the hand whereas the RSMS idea is the two in the bush. Most migration agents would tend to push your parents towards a CPV because that is the visa that they could definitely obtain. Anything else is less certain to succeed.

 

You say that you are now a Permanent Resident of Australia. Are you certain? Which exact visa do you hold, please, and does your visa label say, "Permitted to remain in Australia indefinitely"? Please confirm.

 

If you are right and you definitely are a Permanent Resident as you say, the next question would be whether or not you are also a *settled* permanent resident as yet? In order to sponsor your Parents, it is imperative for you to be able to demonstrate that you are *settled* before the CPV application is made:

 

Go Matilda - Your Gateway to Australia - News

 

Finally, your brother. DIAC would not say that he is financially dependent on your parents because he has been working, apparently, albeit that he has been working for Dad.

 

How long has your brother been doing Landscape Gardening? Has he been doing a formal or informal apprenticeship? What formal qualifications does he have? Brother needs to go onto the back burner with visas for the moment because we need to wait and see what the SMPs say about Landscape Gardeners once the SMPs have been published, which will finally happen during October 2010, we all hope!

 

If all else fails though, has Brother ever had a Working Holiday visa? In his case, a WH visa might lead to a Remaining Relative visa application later on, though the skilled visa route would be far more likely to get PR for Brother in less time:

 

Family - Visas & Immigration

 

A Remaining Relative counts as "other family" so please play with that option.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

Thank you so much for your detailed help, I will definalty be looking into each of these ideas, currently my vias hasnt been granted an ENS 121 is what I have applied for an it has been with immi for nearly 6 months so I should here back soon, I have been in Australia for 2years on various visas.

My dad currently has no formal Quals, however has worked in the industry for over 20 years so I think doing the AQF III would be a very good idea.

My brother also doesnt have formal quals however started his degree that is computer related which I think is on the skilled list.

The part about my dad and the RSMS, Its all very interesting and I will be looking into each area with my family in detail.

Thank you again.

:wubclub:

Thank you so much for all your info.

There is just me and my brother so we meet the family balance test.

My brother is working full time with my dad.

So the temp cpv still takes a very long time (pants)

I didnt know if my mums work could transfer her to Oz wasnt sure how that 1 worked either.

I think I need to do some more research.

Thanks again

Hi guys

I wanted to get some info about parent visas and the best way to go.

My parents are currently in the Uk mum 44 dad 47, My perm visa should be granted in the nest few months and im looking at way to get my parents out here.

My dad is a landscape gardner with 20+ years experience and running his own business. Although he has no formal qualifications in this area.

My mum works as a secretary for a company in the UK that has now just opened branches in Oz in the Brisbane area.

I understand that they are most likely too old for the skilled and sponsored visas, so need to look at other routes.

Im not sure what they best visa to apply for is as I know there is a massive wait with parent visas, I have looked at the temp contributary parent visa as its my understanding that this visa may only take up to two years? I wondered if you apply for this visa then apply for the cpv perm do you get a bridging visa from one to another? So they wouldnt have to leave Oz after being here for 2 years on the temp?

I also wanted to know as I have a younger brother who is 21 if he is classed as a dependant he lives at home with my parents but wasnt sure if he had to be under 18 to be a dependant.

Thank you for any info anyone can give.

Fluffy :wubclub: