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    Aged Parent visa - Subclass 804 - Canadian

    in Family / Partner Visas

    Posted · Edited by z1987

    2 hours ago, Alan Collett said:

    It's a good question - and arguably not helpful.

    Have a look here also: https://guides.dss.gov.au/guide-social-security-law/3/4/1/10

    (scroll down to

    Pension age for both men & women born on or after 1 July 1952)

    In particular look at the example.

    Best regards.

    Yes I looked and it still seems like those born in 1957 will be eligible at 65 in 2022

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    Date Affects men & women born (both dates inclusive) Pension age
    01/07/2017 01/07/1952 to 31/12/1953 65 years and 6 months
    01/07/2019 01/01/1954 to 30/06/1955 66 years
    01/07/2021 01/07/1955 to 31/12/1956 66 years and 6 months
    01/07/2023 On or after 01/01/1957 67 years

    Example: For a person born on 31 October 1953, the earliest date from which they could qualify for age pension would be 1 May 2019. This is their date of birth plus 65.5 years.

    For someone born in 1953, they would qualify at 65.5 after July 2017. So this should mean, for someone born in 1957, they would qualify at 67 after July 2023. So this implies (in a very confusing way) that before July 2023 they would qualify at 65

    Aged Parent visa - Subclass 804 - Canadian

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    2 hours ago, Marisawright said:

    One thing that has changed since then is the British Government's crackdown on "health tourism", so they're no longer allowing British citizens living abroad to pop home to get free NHS treatment.  You have to show proof of a permanent UK address now before you can claim benefits etc, I believe.   

    I don't know what Canada's attitude would be to non-resident citizens flying home to get free treatment in Canada, but it would be very important for the OP to check.  After all, though we all hate to think about it, we all die of something - usually something that requires very expensive health care - so that cost will be something she'll have to face at some point.

    Canada is now like the UK, you have to be residing in Canada to get health cover. Plus who would want to fly all the way to Canada for an emergency operation at the age of 75? UK is slightly closer 😑

    Aged Parent visa - Subclass 804 - Canadian

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    5 hours ago, Marisawright said:

    The 30 year wait is a big issue for everyone.  While on the bridging visa, your parents are only temporary residents in Australia and will have no rights to any benefits or support.  As Canadians, they will be able to get  Medicare under the reciprocal agreement (nothing to do with the bridging visa), so check out the conditions of that.   

    However, that doesn't give them access to things like pensioners' rates on prescriptions, the Safety Net for prescriptions, aged care, or any of the other benefits available to Australian permanent residents.  I believe that in Canada, there are a number of benefits available to seniors and pensioners, and losing those could have a big impact on their living costs - so it would be wise to look into what that would be, exactly.

    Also look at the impact on pensions.  As they don't have PR, they won't ever get the Australian government pension, so what impact does living overseas have on the Canadian one? 

    If they wish to buy a home, they will have to apply to FIRB for permission (for a fee) and also pay a hefty Foreign Buyers' fee on the purchase.  For a $500,000 property, it's about $40,000.

    As you probably know, they will  not be allowed to leave the country while on a bridging visa, and will need to apply for permission (a BVB) every time they want to go on holiday. 

    For many parents on the 804, they'll probably die before the visa is granted.  If they are young enough to still be alive, it's another potential risk.  They'll have to undergo a medical, and if they fail, they can be deported back to Canada and have to start their lives again from scratch - not an easy task in one's 80's or 90's.  And I haven't mentioned the risk that the government could delete the 804 visa in the coming years (they already tried to do it once, but couldn't get it through parliament).  

     

     

     

    There is no reciprocal agreement between Australia and Canada. My father would receive full pension from Canada no matter where he lives, not my mother though. We're not worried about travel issues as applying for permission is a simple thing or aged care/buying a home as they will be living with us in the same house for the rest of their lives.

    But it is a risk and I am not happy with the plan but it seems like the only option we've got to bring them here 😞 

    Aged Parent visa - Subclass 804 - Canadian

    in Family / Partner Visas

    Posted

    56 minutes ago, Canada2Australia said:

    I looked into this for my mother as well. At this stage in her life (also born 1957) it is just not practical to even attempt applying for such a visa. She would likely be too old and frail, or dead, by the time it is approved. So it would be an excercise in futility (and a waste of money) I'm afraid.

    The idea is not for it to get approved actually (as the 30-year wait is ridiculous even for someone in their 40s), although that would be a great plus! The idea is to get them here in Australia ASAP and it seems the best way to do that is to have them live here on a bridging visa. This is why I'm concerned about health cover and work rights on a bridging visa for those applying to 804. The 30-year wait is a big issue for those who don't have passports that allow them to get an ETA and will be forced to wait 30 years offshore.

    Aged Parent visa - Subclass 804 - Canadian

    in Family / Partner Visas

    Posted

    Hi,

    I want to have my Canadian parents move to Australia and live with us. Through our own research this is the plan so far (of course when the borders open and allows non-residents to enter Australia):

    1. Parents enter Australia on an ETA visa (Subclass 601)
    2. They apply for the Aged Parent visa (Subclass 804) onshore

    Questions I have are:

    1. Is there a longer visitor visa my parents can apply for instead of the ETA that allows them to apply for the 804 visa onshore? I ask because my father turns 65 early 2022 and we want them here ASAP. I don't mind having them on a visitor for 6 months to a year if it's possible.
    2. I'm aware they will be on a bridging visa for a long time while waiting for the outcome of 804. Are they entitled to Medicare? I recall back in 2009, I had full Medicare cover while on a bridging visa waiting for my spouse visa; it was a blue Medicare card.
    3. My mother will be under 65 when my father is eligible to apply for 804. Would she be entitled to work while on the bridging visa?
    4. Any idea how long the queue might actually be for 804?
    5. Is there a better option(s) to the plan I have above (ETA -> 804 onshore)?

    Thanks!

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