ByoDurbsUKAus

3 hours ago, Parley said:

Because it is nothing like the common cold. Read some of these stories... https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

There's plenty of other stories to read. Since you're sharing that have a look at Dr Peter McCullough's work in this area. He is a leading USA physician and his reports have even been used in the courts here in Australia. Further, have a look at the legitimate data Craig Kelly regularly shares!  Please ignore the science provided by the manufacturers because you should know that it can be manipulated. As you can see there are risks from all sides and in my case where the risks include death/disability as well as being a sole parent there needs to be a choice or at the very least an exemption while my condition is investigated further. 

3 hours ago, nuttychemist26@yahoo.co.uk said:

Why are vaccines so important against a 99.97% survival rate of a healthy person? Just asking as the common cold is a corona virus & that has never been successfully obliterated! The adjuvants alone that are added to vaccines are scary. They used to add mercury to amalgam fillings in teeth and after many years they discovered the mercury was slowly poisoning people. We have absolutely no idea what effect these vaccines will have on us after 12 months never mind 20 years. 

Exactly! That's another concern and why being jabbed and risk long-term disability or even death among side effects that could be detrimental.  My kids only have me as it is! The true data is available (not from the manufacturers of course) but by 2023 I do wonder if the provisional approval will be extended and how many boosters people would have had. 

3 hours ago, MacGyver said:

I would be interested to read the information source that provides the evidence base for this assertion. This sounds like a serious concern that is not mentioned on any news sites, social media or anywhere else I have observed. I have several friends that are doctors and they are also unaware of this, so it would be beneficial for us all to have access to your information sources.

I have two friends that are doctors. Of course, the government is not going to stand up at a press conference and tell the population what doctors can and can't say about 'mandatory' injections. They are not 'vaccines' so we need to get away from that word for a start. 

18 hours ago, Blue Flu said:

That is simply not true. There are exemptions . I suspect the pressure is on to ensure these exemptions    are granted as rarely  possible. I'd be     very suspect at so called 'experts' attempting to pass that off as an indisputable fact. 

Many people who genuinely need them have been denied them.  The only applicable reasons can be found in the ATAGI document.  If you have anything else outside of what's stated in that document it doesn't matter. I have an autoimmune disease and that doesn't apply either. Somehow 26 million people are part thereof will fit into those 2/3 categories and if you don't you will not get an exemption. 

20 hours ago, rammygirl said:

I do think you need to add up the risk. You are more at risk of serious health issues if you contract COVIDthan you are from a bad reaction to a vaccine. 

Definitely not true. My GP even said that. The risk of the 'vaccine' is far greater than catching the virus.  I live in an area that has no Covid cases, no one has died (adult, child, healthcare worker or otherwise). But what is alarming is the rising cases of pericarditis and that's a risk for me according to a professional doctor. 

19 hours ago, Marisawright said:

If the doctor has said no, then he is obliged to give you an exemption. 

He may not because the ATAGI guidelines do not allow for this. He will lose his job. It is becoming widely known that doctors will lose their jobs if they issue exemptions. They have been silenced and that's a fact. 

4 hours ago, Marisawright said:

@ByoDurbsUKAus, the recovery rate is 97%+, but are you aware that doesn't apply to you, if you have a heart condition?  

My sister (in the UK) has a serious heart condition and she was urged to get vaccinated urgently, because people with a weak heart are at very high risk of dying if they catch Covid.  All her family got vaccinated too, to protect her as much as possible. 

Here's the ATAGI document which very clearly sets out which conditions are entitled to get an exemption.  There are a few heart-related conditions which warrant an exemption. If one of those applies to you then there is no reason why the doctor should not issue an exemption:

https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/atagi-expanded-guidance-on-temporary-medical-exemptions-for-covid-19-vaccines

I realise that the recovery rate is high! Regardless until my heart condition has a name I cannot get an exemption. I have seen that document and my doctor has gone through it with me. 

20 hours ago, Parley said:

You are basically arguing to the courts you have to leave Australia and take the kids away from their father because you don't want to get vaccinated.

Personally i think this is ridiculous.

YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY IGNORED WHAT I HAVE STATED ABOUT THIS! AT THIS TIME I CANNOT BE INJECTED. HOW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT????? 

Of course not because they are still in a trial phase that's why it is ill-advised for me to have them.  My doctors has said I risk pericarditis as one serious effect.  The full diagnosis will be known in two - three weeks.  EASIER but not necessary safe for everyone you know.

20 hours ago, Peach said:

Maybe just get the jab.. would be easier.

Really? My doctor has said it will be dangerous at this point. Did you miss that in my communications?

1 hour ago, Drumbeat said:

And move to a country with a high risk of catching COVID  - even more ridiculous.

Really? Have a look at the statistics as in covid cases, 1 jabbed and 2 jabbed, deaths, side effects etc. and then come back to me. Depending on the underlying condition and GP and specialist are are both saying it's dangerous, as in more dangerous than catching the virus I'm not going to argue with that. 

58 minutes ago, Parley said:

Facebook obviously.

Excuse me??? How about you look at the ATAGI document. I am under the care of a cardiologist. I don't even have Facebook. I'm not stupid either! You don't know that doctors and specialists have been silenced? 

1 hour ago, Drumbeat said:

And move to a country with a high risk of catching COVID  - even more ridiculous.

That's not true at all! I cannot get 'vaccinated'!!!! Covid aside have a good look at what Australia is becoming before you tell me about risk and what's dangerous!

1 hour ago, rammygirl said:

I do think you need to add up the risk. You are more at risk of serious health issues if you contract COVIDthan you are from a bad reaction to a vaccine. 

For me it is actually the other way around. I recently read that the recovery rate is 97% + and I'm not in a hot spot but I understand what you mean. 

48 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

I would say that if you can manage to get to the UK, you'll have no trouble finding work.   The job market is better there than here, surprisingly.   

The problem, as others have said, will be getting permission to leave the country.  If you can't even get your husband to sign the passport forms, then there's no way he's going to give you written permission to take the children, so you'll have to take the matter to court.  That will take several months and there is no way around it.   It doesn't matter how much of an upstanding citizen you are, or how much of a dropkick your husband is, I'm afraid.  

Thank you for your input. I have hope but and will keep trying until I can''t anymore. I do miss my mum and siblings and the children don't really have a relationship with their father as it is. 

1 hour ago, Peach said:

Maybe just get the jab.. would be easier.

I risk death....how is that easier? My doctor has said no. You do realise I have children....so I die then what happens with them?

Just now, Nemesis said:

The Hague Convention is what the courts will use to decide whether the kids are allowed to leave. Its not as simple as just getting them passports. To leave permanently with them you will need their father to agree. Its more wide-ranging than just dealing with "kidnap" cases

I understand that too, but I'm evidently not very good at articulating what I mean. I mentioned the passports because the process for them will take a long time if not the same or longer. Even if the father agrees in the future at mediation he will drag out the passport process. This is what he does for everything else. 

34 minutes ago, Quoll said:

Cant really help you as I never had to worry about rentals or jobs but my observation, for  what it is worth when I lived there (returned last year) - nobody I knew who wanted a job had difficulty getting a job. Also, fewer people, it seemed to me, were living with their parents and my son never had a problem finding somewhere to live.  I think UK is all about the vaccine passports as much as Australia these days from what I am reading.

I think you are probably going to need a good deal of luck, however, with the Hague Convention - Australian courts never give permission for kids to leave if one parent - be they ever so much of a dropkick - says no.  I hope it works out for you.

Thank you. I understand fully that my matter would have to go through the court system and it might take a very long time. I do realise without the fathers permission we will not be going anywhere. I won't abandon the children. As it is we are isolated here and I've been managed without supports and whatnot for a long time. It's going to get worse for us because our local government has decided I'm no longer allowed to work.  

23 minutes ago, Toots said:

Your brother and sister should be able to give you plenty of information about rentals and the employment situation for yourself.  Ask them about everything you need to know.

Very best of luck with the Hague Convention and also with the vaccine exemption thing. 

They are not employed in education so have no idea about that industry.  Obviously I can't buy a house straight away but in the areas, they live in (Northampton and Ellesmere Port) rentals are few) that's why I thought I would ask about it here as well. Why are you telling me about the Hague Convention? I'm not going to kidnap my children!!! I've worked hard to have the career I have now and would never risk being arrested and getting a criminal record attached to my name. My current job requires international and national police checks, WWCC, board registrations etc. I lose that I will never work with kids again.  

The exemption is another matter and even though I could die due to my heart, it is dangerous and ill-advised to have these injections.  If you're a sole parent I'm sure Iit might have crossed your mind about what happens to the children! Thank you anyway. 

Hello,

Can I please ask about the process for a travel exemption? I'm exploring the process now.  We need to get out of here as soon as possible.

Thank you

Hi Everyone,

I hope you can help. I'm a British Citizen and have lived 'Down Under' for nearly 11 years. One of my kids was born in England the other was born here. I have a valid Australian passport, but I will be renewing my British passport as soon as next week. My two children do not have passports as my ex-husband will not sign passport forms. That's another story.  I work in a skilled industry and will be losing my job due to 'mandates'. The doctors have been silenced and I cannot get an exemption even though I have existing and other health concerns under investigation. None meet the criteria for an exemption and due to the fear of being dismissed doctors will not attach their name to one. 

I feel things are tough in many countries now but, I'm not sure how much longer I can hang on for here.  With the looming job loss, my health, and the situation in Australia becoming unbearable, what chance do I have of getting out in terms of Border Force, flights (without injections) etc? I can sell everything I own, but I will run out of money quickly being out of work and I cannot access my superannuation unless I've been on welfare payments for 6 months. My salary is my only income. I am the primary carer for the children and meet all of their needs, medical, education etc.  My brother and sister live in England and my mum in North Wales. We have a beautiful dog that I would like to take to England too. I understand that I cannot leave the country without permission from my ex-husband. He is difficult to get hold of and it normally takes weeks to get a simple reply to an email. 

If you have already returned please reply about the job situation and availability of rentals. I've lived in London and Peterborough. Chester is great but I don't mind so much where we live as long as I can find employment. I like to and want to work. Thank you.

Please be kind =).