Animals+Aus=Dreams

Thanks for the positivity.

No problem at all. You’re right though.

I particularly feel that younger people, at least those that I have met, think it’s quite an easy thing, but the reality of moving home and family makes it a lot tougher than moving out there on a 2-year temporary with nothing but your dreams and some dollars. We wish it were so right! This is our new life and we cannot sacrifice our entire livelihood. We had put the idea to bed a little while ago until an agent told me my occupation was up for grabs. So I thought I’d give it a bash. Let’s see hey.

Thanks for the help.

45 minutes ago, Ausvisitor said:

I think you need to have a long look at your plans in a "clear light of day" environment.

Let's assume you can get a 491 with your animal care background, that's great, it gets you to Australia. What do you do then? As you've been told there are next to no Management Accountant roles in regional australia so what is your partner going to so for the 5 years you have the 491 visa - after 3+ years you could apply for a PR and move to city but would you want to as by then you'd have a life in the place you settled.

I'm not trying to sat don't do it, I'm just highlighting that many people on here fixate on "getting to AUS by whatever means possible"; and only afterwards realise they've spent £15-£30k on getting visas that don't allow them to do what they want to do when they get there anyway.

Have the conversation with your partner about what they'll do for 5 years if they can't do their career and see what they think.

(People often come up with ideas of working for a large firm but from home, but these almost always fail the regional test as you are still contracted to a big city office and the work from home is a concession not a right)

Hi.

We have been working on this for a good few years so know the ins and outs. We haven’t been told there aren’t jobs in accounting, we have just been told the government is so inundated for accounting visas that the chances of being put through are minimal, and mainly people apply for the independent visa to go to the cities. He is skilled in other areas of finance so I don’t think he will be out of work. We have quite good funding for supporting us for a while whilst we are out there as well. If we didn’t we just couldn’t consider it, because my work is the trickier component.

This is not a new whim for us, and thank you for your insights. I just am being super realistic about the situation and doubt I’ll get invited with such an obscure occupation that runs a heavy risk of being taken off the lists. 
 

I have emigrated before from a hot country and I miss the lifestyle of being outdoors in the sunshine and the pool, but am equally as happy being in the UK, where my opportunities have been incredible. If anything, stay here for more Disney World holidays and European Christmas markets

On 14/07/2020 at 08:05, Conyo2588 said:

Hi, I’m also an accountant (ACCA qualified 2019) but had been working in that area for years prior (as you do whilst studying etc)

I completed an online questionnaire which said I was eligible to apply as I had over 65 points. 

Upon speaking to an agent, I found you can only claim work points for post qualification experience. Also, the barrier is that high for accountants now (95-100) that it’s nigh on impossible to get in unless you have points for Australian study/work. 

We’re currently in the process of trying to get a regional 491 visa on my partners job. I had a skills assessment for extra partner points to his visa, just sent them my AAT & ACCA certs and it came back really quickly. 
 

I suggest you speak to a MARA agent and get their advice, if you haven’t already done so. 
 

Hope you get some good news

Thank you for the advice. Yes, we have spoken with an agent but it’s mostly been regarding my chances of obtaining a 491, as we were told straight away that getting accountants in is really tricky (inundated). When I have checked the invites for the states, they still get some through however. 
 

I think my nominated occupation as animal attendant and trainer (I actually work in veterinary and animal care, but not a nurse) is going to be such a long shot getting in, I wanted to double check the accounting. 

11 hours ago, Raul Senise said:

Skills assessments for Accountants require the completion of a relevant qualifications which covers the required number of subjects for the accounting occupation being nominated. 

If all required subjects are not covered by the qualification, no amount of experience will suffice.

The only exception to this is the occupation of Internal Auditor as this is assessed by a different assessing body.

Thank you for the insight. I suspected as much and actually this is what CPA themselves have confirmed, as I have since contacted them as well.

16 hours ago, VERYSTORMY said:

The 491 and 190 are currently closed. Also, have a hard think about the ability to find a job in a regional area as an accountant. If, when the 491 and 190:reopen, it is still available. Which I wouldn’t bank on. Most people have been surprised for years it is still on the list given there has been an over supply of accountants in Oz for years. 

Yeah, I believe so, thus we are trying my route for a visa in Animal work. We are very much aware that this may not be achieveable for us sadly, particularly with the current global issues. Thank you.

Hi,

I have an occupation that doesn’t seem promising for migration, but it is still on the list!

Animal Attendant and Trainer...

I hope that I get the chance to apply for regional 491 visa when things start moving again, with an EOI, skills assessment and English test done and waiting in the wings.

If anyone has a similar occupations (in the 3’s), and has tried this route or similar route in the past, I’m curious how you found it went. 

I also wondered if animal or wildlife jobs are ever open to sponsorship for overseas applicants. This may be a bit of a far cry, but I can’t find the information anywhere else and hoped Pomz community could help.

Thanks!

On 04/07/2020 at 06:59, Ferrets said:

Likewise I found that experience prior to completion of CIMA was not counted.

Accounting is odd in that it is one of the few profoessions (last time I checked) where technically you don't need experience just the positive skills assessment. 

That means that unless you have studeid in Australia & done a Professional Year (both tuition fee rorts) it is very difficult to get the required points, with recent invites north of 85 points as highlighted above.

You need a strategy, and as flagged one of the MARA agents here will be able to support.  In the overall scheme of moving to Australia the cost (if any over inial consultation) is immaterial.

Good luck!

Thanks!

On 03/07/2020 at 01:52, elderberry said:

I tried to apply for skills assessment initially with CPA when I was a finalist but not qualified (CIMA). They wanted a breakdown of all the modules and pass marks, then rejected my skills assessment highlighting about 6 modules to complete with CPA to be able to be pass the assessment. I then waited a few months, passed my finals and applied again as a member, came back very soon as a pass.

 

Thank you for the response!

Thanks for the info, appreciate the time you took to reply. 
 

Regards

Hi,

Im new to the forum. I wanted to find out from other peoples’ experiences about skills assessment for accountants.

My partner has a degree in economics finance and banking; more than 5-years work experience as an accountant (at least); has finished half of his Chartered Institute of Management Accounting exams; and has been employed as a Management Accountant for almost 2-years.

Despite not being fully accredited by CIMA (which directly translates to CPA as far as I am aware), would his experience give him a likely positive skills assessment outcome?

Any accountants who have emigrated from UK to Aus with this issue, that have any information, would be welcomed! 
 

Thanks