Earlymegski

9 hours ago, Fizzy said:

Hey, I don't know the answer to this but would be curious to know what you find out! My wife's trying to go through a similar process and considering converting her UK degree. If it adds points to the PR application, that would be a huge bonus.

Did you find anything out?

Hi Fizzy, 

I don’t think we can sadly but I’m not 100% about this.

Good luck!

Megan

hi

does anyone know if the law modules You study to be admitted as a lawyer in Australia count towards the Australian study requirement to gain more points on the application?

Like other I am assessing whether I should do the extra study and trying and get a visa as a solicitor as I’m only at 75 points and I know that isn’t enough at the moment. Any ideas on how to boost the points?

thanks 

On 06/09/2018 at 11:01, LawyerAbroad said:

Hi guys,

 

This is my first time posting on the site. I've lurked in the background taking all your helpful advice and now I see an opportunity to put something back in. I'm a barrister in the UK and today I had the great news that my 189 application (and my partner's) has been granted. It's been quite a long haul. In fact, if there is a slower or more expensive way of getting a 189 visa I'd love to hear that story.

 

When I first considered applying for a 189 visa I really struggled to find anything other than generic information about the process of applying as a lawyer and no information at all about how much it might cost. So, if there is anyone who is a solicitor, a lawyer or barrister who is thinking about applying, I hope this (very) long list of hoops I've had to jump through leaves you more informed than I was going into the process.

 

Yes, it does mean re-qualifying. I got off pretty lightly having to do only 4 academic subjects and 2 practical subjects. Prepare a very thorough application for exemptions (I sent photocopies of the index to university text books, lecture handouts, etc that I found in my parents' loft to demonstrate the equivalence of the subjects I studied). This involves going back to university (it can be done by remote learning). Yes, that means lectures, tutorials, homework, coursework and exams. Yes, it does mean you will need to travel to Australia for a holiday to get admitted before you can even submit your Expression of Interest.

 

DON'T apply for conditional admission like I did. You won't get it and you'll have wasted your time and money. No, you don't need a Skills Assessment Letter. Your certificate of admission as a lawyer will suffice.

 

I've attached a spreadsheet showing the costs I've spent. In summary:

 

On further study: a little under £10,000

On the process of being admitted in Australia (excluding the study costs above): a bit over £4,000, although about £1,000 of the cost of flights was returning in Premium Economy.

On the fundamentals of making a visa application: over £5,000

 

Giving a grand total of: £19,078 over 2 years.

 

10.08.16 - Initial assessment of academic qualifications by LPAB received (Constitutional Law, Law of Associations, Legal Ethics, Practice & Procedure)

01.09.16 - Initial assessment of PLT (practical legal training) qualifications by LPAB received (One elective subject plus Commercial & Corporate Practice)

22.09.16 - Offered places on University of New England courses for academic subjects (distance learning)

05.10.16 - Applied for conditional admission as lawyer

24.10.16 - Started Corporations Law course

01.12.16 - Refused conditional admission by LPAB

20.02.17 - Started Constitutional Law course

23.05.17 - Constitutional Law exam

31.05.17 - Corporations Law exam

26.06.17 - Started Professional Conduct and Civil & Criminal Procedure courses.

13.08.17 - Commercial & Corporate Practice PLT oral assessment (College of Law)

11.09.17 - Commercial & Corporate Practice result

26.09.17 - Professional Conduct exam

27.09.17 - Civil & Criminal Procedure exam

20.10.17 - UNE academic results

10.11.17 - Final assessment of academic qualifications by LPAB

12.11.17 - Administrative Law PLT elective oral assessment (College of Law)

13.11.17 - Administrative Law PLT result

19.12.17 - Applied for unconditional admission as lawyer

06.02.18 - Application for admission approved by LPAB

23.03.18 - Admission ceremony in Sydney (Supreme Court of NSW)

05.04.18 - EOI submitted - Barrister ANZSCO 271111 (75 points)

08.04.18 - EOI updated

13.04.18 - Police checks requested

18.04.18 - Invited to apply for 189 visa

19.04.18 - Medicals booked

19.04.18 - Police checks prepared / dated

26.04.18 - Police checks received

09.05.18 - Medicals undertaken

16.05.18 - Medicals submitted to Australia by clinic

18.05.18 - Decision ready 189 application submitted

06.09.18 - Direct Grant

 

 I hope you find this useful!

Australia Costs copy.xlsx

Hi everyone, I hope everyone is doing ok and that your visa apps continue during these Difficult  times.
I was looking for advice on 186 visa. Boyfriend’s previous employer In Melbourne has said he is willing to sponsor him on 186 but he’s never done it before. He’s a small construction business. Do you know how complicated it is for the sponsor and if we will need a migration agent , and if you used one do you have any recommendations?

thank you and good luck everyone 

Thanks all

On 06/09/2018 at 11:01, LawyerAbroad said:

Hi guys,

 

This is my first time posting on the site. I've lurked in the background taking all your helpful advice and now I see an opportunity to put something back in. I'm a barrister in the UK and today I had the great news that my 189 application (and my partner's) has been granted. It's been quite a long haul. In fact, if there is a slower or more expensive way of getting a 189 visa I'd love to hear that story.

 

When I first considered applying for a 189 visa I really struggled to find anything other than generic information about the process of applying as a lawyer and no information at all about how much it might cost. So, if there is anyone who is a solicitor, a lawyer or barrister who is thinking about applying, I hope this (very) long list of hoops I've had to jump through leaves you more informed than I was going into the process.

 

Yes, it does mean re-qualifying. I got off pretty lightly having to do only 4 academic subjects and 2 practical subjects. Prepare a very thorough application for exemptions (I sent photocopies of the index to university text books, lecture handouts, etc that I found in my parents' loft to demonstrate the equivalence of the subjects I studied). This involves going back to university (it can be done by remote learning). Yes, that means lectures, tutorials, homework, coursework and exams. Yes, it does mean you will need to travel to Australia for a holiday to get admitted before you can even submit your Expression of Interest.

 

DON'T apply for conditional admission like I did. You won't get it and you'll have wasted your time and money. No, you don't need a Skills Assessment Letter. Your certificate of admission as a lawyer will suffice.

 

I've attached a spreadsheet showing the costs I've spent. In summary:

 

On further study: a little under £10,000

On the process of being admitted in Australia (excluding the study costs above): a bit over £4,000, although about £1,000 of the cost of flights was returning in Premium Economy.

On the fundamentals of making a visa application: over £5,000

 

Giving a grand total of: £19,078 over 2 years.

 

10.08.16 - Initial assessment of academic qualifications by LPAB received (Constitutional Law, Law of Associations, Legal Ethics, Practice & Procedure)

01.09.16 - Initial assessment of PLT (practical legal training) qualifications by LPAB received (One elective subject plus Commercial & Corporate Practice)

22.09.16 - Offered places on University of New England courses for academic subjects (distance learning)

05.10.16 - Applied for conditional admission as lawyer

24.10.16 - Started Corporations Law course

01.12.16 - Refused conditional admission by LPAB

20.02.17 - Started Constitutional Law course

23.05.17 - Constitutional Law exam

31.05.17 - Corporations Law exam

26.06.17 - Started Professional Conduct and Civil & Criminal Procedure courses.

13.08.17 - Commercial & Corporate Practice PLT oral assessment (College of Law)

11.09.17 - Commercial & Corporate Practice result

26.09.17 - Professional Conduct exam

27.09.17 - Civil & Criminal Procedure exam

20.10.17 - UNE academic results

10.11.17 - Final assessment of academic qualifications by LPAB

12.11.17 - Administrative Law PLT elective oral assessment (College of Law)

13.11.17 - Administrative Law PLT result

19.12.17 - Applied for unconditional admission as lawyer

06.02.18 - Application for admission approved by LPAB

23.03.18 - Admission ceremony in Sydney (Supreme Court of NSW)

05.04.18 - EOI submitted - Barrister ANZSCO 271111 (75 points)

08.04.18 - EOI updated

13.04.18 - Police checks requested

18.04.18 - Invited to apply for 189 visa

19.04.18 - Medicals booked

19.04.18 - Police checks prepared / dated

26.04.18 - Police checks received

09.05.18 - Medicals undertaken

16.05.18 - Medicals submitted to Australia by clinic

18.05.18 - Decision ready 189 application submitted

06.09.18 - Direct Grant

 

 I hope you find this useful!

Australia Costs copy.xlsx

Hi, I have found this thread really interesting.

j was wondering for some advice. My partner and I lived in Australia 2 years ago on a working holiday visa for 10 months. We can back to the UK so I could complete my training contract. I qualified as a solicitor last year and left my job after 3 months to work in policy as I didn’t think working a a solicitor was cut out for me.

we are thinking of moving back on a 189 visa. My partner is in construction and on the skilled list but im not sure if we will get 65 points. I’m thinking of looking at what I would need to do for my qualifications to be recognised to apply for the Visa although I wouldn’t intend to practise as a solicitor once I was there. 

Is the first step for me to get my qualifications assessed by the relevant state and then be informed of the list of courses I need to take? If it’s just so that I have an eligible career on the skilled list and not to practise in aharealia as I would look for policy work, would I need to do the same amount of courses as you ?

I’m finding the whole process really confusing...

thanks for all your help 

!