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If you don't have a formal qualification, you're best bet is to have your skills assessed with VETASSESS. 

Hiya, please refer to comments below:

1. From how you described your background, it seems that you fit the requirements for English exemption. However, you might still want to do the test anyway more for points purposes.

2. It all depends on your points. It would be premature to finalise the visa type you'll be applying for. Best to decide on this once you've got your skills assessment outcome.

3. More details need to be discussed on this topic 

4. It really depends on you. It can definitely be done on your own but be prepared to dedicate the time to do lots of research especially with the policies and procedures being extra fickle these days, you have to ensure the info you gather is the most updated one. However, if it suits your budget, you can also opt to engage an agent for the convenience and peace of mind. the best way to search is via https://www.mara.gov.au/ to make sure you're dealing with a registered agent. Be mindful that there are a number in the UK who offer such assistance and will charge you over £2,000 and they are actually not qualified, meaning have not done further studies in the Australian migration law and practice as well as no access to a professional library of immigration legislation.

5. Not really, no particular format. If in doubt, the UK format that you would use is good enough.

On a different note, I can't help but ask about your employment in Germany. I've lived over there for over 2 years and I'm always fascinated to come across people who live there as well. Kannst du Deutsch sprachen?  

All the best!

I just had a client who got invited by NSW for state nomination (190 subclass) last week. He's got 75 points plus 5. Indeed, the English points could be her saving grace.

You need to first find an occupation from the list. Check the ANZSCO description of Health and Welfare Manager and if most and not all tasks fall within the scope of what you do. Then calculate your potential points. 

17 hours ago, Nitu said:

Can someone share a format/sample of statutory document required for employment reference for Australian PR process

Thanks,

Nitu

There should be more information about this on ACS website.

you would need to check the tasks of this occupation as defined by ANZSCO then see if most if not all apply to what you do.

40 minutes ago, Karl said:

Ha, how long has it been since I last posted. Spoke to a advisor and they seem to think it would be in the electronic equipment trade engineer. UK wise I am a service engineer.

Is it Electronic equipment trades worker, you mean? That would be through VETASSESS then

7 minutes ago, JH_2017 said:

Ok, understand what you mean now. Let's hope that the examiner doing my remark is in a good emotional state!

Out of intrest, have you had any clients that has had a remark on their IELTS and it was successful?

It's not uncommon to retake either tests and usually the scores get better due to the fact that the examinee gets more relaxed in the process.

IELTS, I meant. these 2 tests are delivered differently so you may find you are comfortable with one than the other. Honestly, the physical, mental and emotional conditions of the examinee has great impact on the actual results...it's not all about your English knowledge.

It's possible your learning style might be suited for IELTS then. I do have clients who had similar situation like you so perhaps it's worth giving it a try. Good luck

2 hours ago, Gillycraig said:

Thanks I guess my question is I’ll have score for my skills assessment and a different test result for my overall points requirement as part of the EOI - has anyone seen or heard of this or is it perfectly acceptable. 

 

 

Yes, that's what some do and it's not an issue at all

IELTS general or PTE. The latter has a faster turnover though if you are in a hurry. 

1 hour ago, MarkW said:

Hi

We have submitted our EOI for 189 visa in November.  I am a mental health nurse with 6 years experience, Academic IELTS completed providing proficient English.  As it stands we currently have the minimum 60 points and I am aware that it is 70 points and over who are receiving the invites. Am I correct in my information that by taking IELTS general and obtaining 8's that would mean superior English and increase points by another 10???

That's correct. Look into IELTS General or PTE. Many seem to get higher scores in PTE but this doesn't mean it is easier than IELTS. The difference between the two is the delivery. As you would have known, IELTS is classroom style type of test whilst PTE is computer based. So in the end, it all depends on the comfort zone of the individual. Read more compare these 2 test types and decide from there. Good luck!

On 1/22/2018 at 19:35, GermanTeacher said:

No, not yet. But of course I will need to do it soon. I actually need 8.0 in every category to get my 20 points for English proficiency. And 20 points are part of my calculation for 65 points overall.

Hiya, I hope I'm right in assuming that you are indeed German? Können sie Deutsch sprechen? I lived in Germany for over 2 years and had to learn the language. I'm always amused to have the opportunity to practice my Deutsch

Anyway, with regards to English, you need to satisfy both the skills assessing authority and Home Affairs (to claim points). In case your score on your IELTS academic test is just enough to meet AITSL requirement, you could also consider taking IELTS general or PTE with the aim of satisfying the Home Affairs requirement so you can claim 20 points.

In terms of your 65 points calculation. It's difficult to say that surely you'll get an invite. it is rather safe to say you are eligible for a skilled visa. Being eligible doesn't always mean you'll get an invite for sure especially nowadays. Also, applying for 190 visa involves applying for state nomination which, on its own, has an influence on your chances to get an invite.

3 hours ago, Raul Senise said:

Why do you say that the new TSS visa will no longer be a pathway to Permanent Residency?

Registered Nurse is on the Medium and Long-term Strategic Skills List. As such it will still be eligible for Permanent Residency through both the Direct Entry and Temporary Residence Transition streams of the Employer Nomination Scheme, post the replacement of the 457 in March this year.

Thanks for pointing out the typo. The would was supposed to be a could. Meaning at some point, changes are inevitable as we all know so it can be a pathway now but no assurance at all for the future.

2 hours ago, ras248 said:

 

Good evening guys,

I am wanting to apply for a 457 visa (I'm a registered nurse) how realistic is it that I will gain a permanent residency visa once in OZ? Or is it too risky to take the hubby and 3 kids on the 457...

I always tell my clients that if they see their occupation on the list, they're better applying for a permanent visa on their own merit. If I would like to earn more, by all means 457 would have been the way to go  since I can bill more but I do not work that way. Being a parent myself, I would advice you to opt for a permanent route as you don't want your visa status to be relying on your occupation where you don't know what can happen tomorrow. Moving to a new country is already daunting as it is, more so if you have kids in tow. Also, be mindful that 457 visa will soon be abolished (very soon) and will be replaced by a new one which would no longer be a pathway to migration. Do further research I must say. All the best!

Not sure if you've heard of PTE. That's another type of English test which is recognised by the department. IELTS and PTE are the two common tests used by applicants. The difference between them is the delivery. IELTS is more classroom based, the other is computer based. I always suggest my clients to read more about these two types and choose the most comfortable for them.

We always advice our clients to provide employment letters with both information.

1 hour ago, Jodie&matt said:

Thanks Rhea 

could you please message me 

thanks 

Jodie 

 

Hi Jodie,

apologies, I didn't quite understand your previous message. 

Rhea

1 hour ago, Jodie&matt said:

Hi I’m just wondering if someone who as been through the process could give me a little information.. 

we’ve just been over to Perth to visit my family for a month and it’s totally sold it to us.. we have 4 children... we have been in touch with an agent.. do you guys recommend using an agent?? I know they have added fees on top I just don’t know if we could do it all ourselves as it’s very daunting... the agent advised applying for a 189 visa.. if anyone as done this could you give me some kind of time fame from start to finish, how long it took?? 

Well we was over in Perth my husband went and met a few employers to find out about wages etc and was offered a job soon as he as his visa so we know we will get work when finally there it’s just getting there lol... we also looked at rentals and also the dif schools in the area we are interested in living.. 

so now it’s just a case of getting things into action... 

i have managed to get a quote also for our family dog so I know what she will cost to take over..

it would just be nice to speak to someone who as actually been through it all 

thanks 

Jodie x

Hi Jodie,

I did the migration journey myself many years ago when I was in my 20's. Apart from my circumstances being much simpler than yours -young, single, nothing to lose (no parental worries which we all have now after children), migration policy was also not as tough as it is now. I also had budget issues so engaging a migration agent was far from my plan as they add up to the already expensive process. Initially, the whole migration mechanics seem to be simple until I realised eventually that it wasn't as straightforward as I thought. The more I knew about the process, the less confident I became. Luckily, a friend of mine recommended an agent in Sydney who was just charging A$1,000 which I could pay in two parts. My whole perception of agents being expensive changed. I've referred a lot of friends to my agent since then as I saw the value of having one. Fast forward, I'm now a registered migration agent myself because  of my personal experience. However, please don't misinterpret this as me being biased due to my profession. Only giving my honest opinion from experience, without the agent hat on. For sure, you can definitely do this yourself but like the other previous comment, it entails a lot of work. Also, feel free to shop around if you are to engage an agent. The website www.mara.gov.au is the best way to go as you will for sure be handled by a qualified agent. Best of luck!

4 minutes ago, Raul Senise said:

Do your research, chose carefully and make sure you use a Registered Agent. You can check registration details here.

A word of caution with the subclass 189 visa. Some companies will try and sell you on this visa stating that you only need 60 points to qualify. Although this is technically correct, no invitations for subclass 189 visas have been issued this program year (since July 2017) to candidates who score only 60 points. This visa has become increasingly difficulty and the latest invitation round required a minimum score of 70. Since July 2017, the minimum score required has ranged from 65 to 75 points.

Totally agree with above comment. Once you add up score more or less 60 points , best bet is do an English test - your saving grace!  then hopefully you get 70 or 80 points. Getting tougher and tougher with points I must say. 

I migrated to Australia many years ago and it was way simpler then but what I found was the more you research, the more info you have, the more confusing it becomes. I was one of those who were skeptic with using agents as they were known to be expensive. I attempted to do it myself but then I realised it wasn't as straight forward as my student visa which I applied myself when I first came to Australia. Luckily, I found an agent in Sydney who only charged $1,000. It definitely changed my perception on agents and found the value of having one which eventually  led me to pursuing further postgraduate studies in Australian migration law and practice to be qualified to provide advice and I promised myself from day one into my course that once I start my practice, I will keep my fees reasonable as I know how it's like to be on the other end. 

So yes, that's very true, be careful of those who will try to sell you into their services. Make sure you check out their registration number and search it on the MARA website for a background check. You will know and feel anyway if the agency sees you as just a number to add to their monthly profit or if the agent will literally hold your hand and pleased to be part of your journey. 

Btw, I realised your from North West England so perhaps it's unlikely it's the London expo you're going to. Anyway, all the best and definitely, based from my personal experience, it's worth engaging an agent as it also gives you that peace of mind in the end

On 1/21/2018 at 21:18, Rach133 said:

Thanks both for your opinions on this - we are very new to the realities of the move after thinking about it for a few years!

We will be going to an expo in a few weeks and we are hoping to meet an agent who would be able to support us through the process, again mainly for peace of mind. I'm glad you recommended the 189 as this was the one I though would be most likely to suit, but again, I would like supporting through this to ensure we do it all correctly and stand the best chance of it being approved. Just out of curiosity, why do you say the 189 is best?

Thanks for your help!

 

 

 

 

Hi Rach 133,  those 3 visa options are your possibilities - 189, 190, 489. Your over all score in the Points Test will determine the best visa option for you. The first step is the calculate your potential points and if you think you can reach a minimum of 60, then get on with preparing for your skills assessment application.

You mentioned an expo you're going to. If that's next month and in London, I'll be there too as one of the participants. Feel free to say hi ?

www.mara.gov.au is the best way to find registered agents in the U.K. I second that, stay away from those who are not registered as they are not qualified to give advice. Good luck!

I've mentioned this in previous threads...coming from my own personal experience when I emigrated to Australia, I did find the value in engaging an agent for my visa application. I attempted DIY but with the complexity of the immigration law, I wasn't confident if I understood/covered all areas. Luckily, I found someone who didn't charge much so I went for it and I'm thankful up to this date that I got one. The experience actually inspired me to study the Australian immigration law and practice so I could get myself qualified and assist others in their journey to Australia - my own way of giving back.

1 hour ago, Mat8 said:

You definitely went to the right source - MARA. As migration agents, we need to adhere to the code of conduct set out by the MARA so rest assured you will be dealt with in a professional manner. Also, being registered with the MARA means we are qualified to provide immigration advice. With regards to costing, there is not set rules imposed by the MARA  apart from the fact that fees should be fair and reasonable. You need to shop around and find the most competitive fees. Also, apart from the fees, you also need to feel the trust. I suggest you get a few quotes and take it from there. I'm not sure if you'be seen the agent fees section on the MARA website but just in case, here it is https://www.mara.gov.au/using-an-agent/working-with-your-agent/agent-fees/