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Science and Maths teacher in an independent school in Queensland. Happy to answer any queries about QLD. Been here for one year. Was SLT in UK so adjusting to a full teaching timetable again was a culture shock.
 
Millie

Hi everyone first post here. We have our 189 visa already and it's been activated.
Husband is doing a secondary maths pgce in September and we head to oz next summer.
Have our hearts set on the sunshine coast. Is it realistic to think he can get work there? Doesn't have to be permanent work, subbing would do. Need to be confident enough that he would get enough subbing to clock up his hours to receive the full teaching registration.
All thoughts welcome and appreciated please

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If you stay outside of Australia until after the 5 year travel part of your PR expires, you will not be able to get back into Australia. You may possibly get a RRV but unlikely if you are actively living in NZ and have sppent no time in Oz.

Without the time spent in Oz to get you an RRV or citizenship you will lose the right to live in Australia.

Thanks Nemesis. What would that mean for NZ then? How could we stay there permanently?

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Is it something you are thinking of doing Wooba? If so can I cask out of curiosity why you are thinking of NZ over Oz and where in NZ?

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Brill thanks I'll take a look

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Hi all. Hope somebody can help me.

We have a 189 visa for Oz which has been activated. I'm aware we can go live in New Zealand with this. But does anyone know how that works long term?

If we went to NZ instead of Oz would we lose our Oz PR and also how could we stay on in NZ after losing the Oz PR?

Hope I've explained that well

TIA

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Thanks everyone for all your replies and sorry I don't have time to reply to each and every one of you.

Thanks for sharing all your experiences.

Maybe I focused too much on the friends thing in my original post. I think my main reason for wanting to go is to have more things to do with the kids during the day as we no longer get out in the evenings. I feel like the UK is very much centred around pubs and now that is no longer an option for us we feel like we are very limited to what we can do and where we can go during the day with our kids.

Meeting other families would be an added bonus in Oz. But don't feel like we would be leaving great friends behind as I explained we seem to be on a totally different wave length to your friends since having kids. Our friends work all week and get kids minded at weekend so they can head out. We can't get out because we have no babysitters and if truth be told we don't want that life anymore. (Well once in a while would be nice lol).

Maybe I'll wake up tomorrow in 2017 with a clearer mind (wishful thinking lol)

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I am in exactly the same position as you are, although we have a job offer - and are still considering what our options are. Melbourne was looking pretty good, until we looked at house prices. Holy cow. We live in a tiny 2-bed rental, and looks like we could afford a tiny 2-bed rental. I don't know how we would stretch to a mortgage ever in Australia and if we did, the repayments on a tiny 2-bed make my eyes water. We too have no support here in the UK. But you say you have a nice house, nice village, nice holidays and part time work. That sounds amazing to me.

Thanks for the reply. When do you have to make your decision by? Have you got kids?

On paper life here sounds good but just doesn't feel right and feel like we are missing an opportunity. On flip side I'm petrified of making the move and struggling

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Having been on that journey, lived for 5 years in Perth and now back in the UK I'd say it is definitely not worth it.

 

Those that prefer Australia tend to be those that earn more money there and can afford a better house - like you we were financially better off in the UK but believed the 'lifestyle' would be worth it - it wasn't.

 

You are no more likely to have other families to socialise with in Australia, that is all about who you meet & make friends with and that is really no different - if anything a lot of people find it harder to make good friends in Australia, I don't really know why but can only assume it's down to cultural differences.

That makes a lot of sense to me what you said. I have said this to my husband that we aren't the norm. Most people move to oz for better wages and a better house etc. We are moving solely for the weather.

Did you make the move to and from Oz with kids?

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It is not for me to say whether you should move or not of course as I only know this one post about you. However I am firmly of the view that the lifestyle depends on you and your choices and not what country you are in. And ability to make friends and build a social circle is very much down to the individual and yes some people need to try a little harder than others. I hasten to add that you should not take that as any kind of a dig, I am very much in the "finding it harder than others" camp myself. Actually I am a little bit in the "I'm not particularly bothered" camp but that is possibly with age.

 

However the point is that you will not be handled a social circle of likeminded people when you land in Australia. It will be no easier to build there than it is in UK. I can honestly say, I did not make one single friend in five years in Australia. I made acquaintances and had all the social interactions that I personally needed through work but no, Australia did not hand me a social circle - fortunately in my case I was not particularly looking for one and I certainly did not move hoping to get one.

 

I would examine other reasons for moving, do the pros and cons list as I am sure most of us have at one time. But try to keep it to real things, climate, finances, even travel and adventure is real ... but improving social circle no, I don't think it is something you can bank on at all.

 

Good luck.

Thanks for the reply Bungo.

Think I'm pinning my hopes on the social life in Oz based on my observations when I was there a few months ago. Families together at play parks and communal areas in estates.

But as you say it's not like I can just rock up and force myself on them lol.

We do have plenty of friends here but they just aren't as family orientated as us which saddens me.

A lot of thinking to do!!

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We have our visa 189 and it's been validated.

We just can't decide whether to go or not. We have 3 kids all under 4 and a nice house in a nice Village. But just feel like the lifestyle here doesn't suit us as in none of our friends want to socialise as families they still just want their nights out on the p*ss. We have absolutely no family help so have never had a babysitter and never had any time alone from the kids. We find it a bit lonely and would love a lifestyle where we socialise as a family with other families.

Problem with Oz is we would definitely have a lot less money. A similar type house would be about twice the price.

If we stay in UK we could afford nice holidays and husband could work part time.

What are your thoughts? Is OZ worth the sacrifice of financial security? Is it worth the gamble? Or is the quality of life I'm yearning perhaps right in front me just needing some adjustments?

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