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Exciting times...Tell  him to look at  Goodstart they offer  457 sponsorship opportunities and all over OZ... don't know whether you need their diploma level first though?

Best of luck ....keep in touch how you get on ..

Thanks sammy1 and Quoll,

All info very much appreciated xx

Yep An MA specifically in early Years and primary with practical components is what I meant (e.g. gaining the four years in total with a 3 year Primary QTS degree and gaining ACECQA acceptance at same time.

and plus a year as a newly qualified teacher  so 5 years totaI.

This route pushes me to the 45 yrs age limit for migration purposes.

I spoke to Study Options Australia who also clarified that if I completed the 2 years condensed BA (Honours)Early Years and Care (EYPS) in the UK (this has 700 hours practical components with 0-5 yrs) so long as the uni can state it is the same content and condensed version of the  3 years degree they offer  with the full 360 credits (which it is), then this should be acceptable as equal to a 3 year degree in Australia  also (plus also giving me the practical components for ACECQA ). It should also be classed as Primary Teaching for Australian Teaching Registration so long as it is followed with a PGCE with QTS . Alternatively I may do a Masters of Primary in Australia?

Oh what to do...I'll be ready for retirement by the time I qualify Ha ha.

Hi Bran,

Hope this helps as I have done a ton of research with ACECQA they specify on their website that an ECT must be

n September 2013, ACECQA determined that a person who holds ALL of the following will be recognised as equivalent to an early childhood teacher:

• a primary teaching qualification that includes at least a focus on children aged 5 to 8 years old (e.g. a qualification with a focus on children aged 3 to 8 or 5 to 12) AND
• teacher registration in Australia (called ‘accreditation’ in New South Wales) AND
• an ACECQA approved diploma level (or higher) education and care qualification.

You would be considered a primary teacher with a PGCE (plus 3 year degree), and you could use your PGCE towards RPL on a diploma course (required by ACECQA) or towards a masters in early years if  you gained credit with your PGCE...but it would need to be a course recognised by ACECQA and this is difficult to guess for the UK equivalent...I am still researching this...though there are early years masters with practical components and you would need practicals with 0-2 age range. There are also Uk conversion courses for Primary teachers to early Years Teachers which may be an option ...I think Bristol offer them and as a graduate you can do this within 1 year or 3 months if you are working in a setting of early Years and have so much practical experience check out Bristol Uni.

When I contacted ACECQA  work experiences is not enough it must be within a course supervised placement context..and have so many days placement. There are also cheaper options through PACEY who offer practical level 5 EYPS courses for around £2000 with 3 different routes...you will need a practical work placement for this though. With your PGCE so long as you have a 3 year degree I think the Pacey course would be sufficient to meet diploma level requirements as a level 5 equates to a foundation degree in Australia...although this is NOT a foundation degree but a new course been rolled out in Uk to increase early years workers skill levels giving recognised industry status.

I have a Cache level 3 NNEB in Nursery Nursing  and even at this level there was a heavy focus on practical elements of child care eg feeding, nappy changes, working with parent, legislation, curriculum planning..Early Years is very different for teaching in the fact it covers a lot of practical care components and a foundation curriculum focussed on 0-5 yrs. My course was 3 years and covered over 120 practical days and even this isn't high enough for diploma level with ACECQA, came back as a cert level 4, which doesn't exist so marked down as level 3 certificate level. I now have to either use RPL to top up to diploma level (which you can't do online from Uk-must be in Australia and pay for entire 2 year course at international student fees just to cover a few modules). Very expensive or bite the bullet and get RPL towards a similar in UK

Hope this helps ....what did you do your degree in?

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I'm also nneb qualified but  acacqa only accept this as very 3 level outside of qld. I'm hoping to go to qld. .. however from my understanding for eyt status you still need primary registration...this is then requirement for 4 years...yet qld. .as yet queensland do not register eyt working in early years settings...

1 hour ago, niamhmulk said:

No it's not useless if you do a Masters after it.

You don't do a PGCE after a 3 year teaching degree because you will already be a teacher. A PGCE is for people who have done a degree in a non-teaching related area. 

oh you are the first positive person....yay...so if I wanted say a specialist in early years should a top up year be sufficient?  Do you have to have a years experience e.g Nqt year also...my problem is I turn 40 this year and they have now lowered the age criteria...my experience range from working with looked after children, children excluded from mainstream, teens and families as a support worker coordinator and sub misuse worker...will all this experience be wasted as only consider after qualification work?

So frustrating as the QTS Primary offers 120 days min supervised teaching practice....I did contact a section in QLD government who work closely with the industry and even they said take the QTS and assess on completion as an additional year as NQT may be sufficient ...but a lot to risk on a whim of things may change....having to think and decide quickly as need to accept something...looking into child development 3 years degrees and take from there.  

So what you are saying is 3 years in Primary with teaching practice 120 days would still be useless...what if I followed with  a PGCE/D /MA in Early Years or Special needs specialism

On 8/5/2017 at 22:09, BrightB said:

 

Hello, everyone! 

I am getting my papers ready to apply for a skill assessment (Early Childhood Teacher)!

Has anyone done this one? I've seen lots of primary/secondary teachers but can't see any early childhood teachers!

Anyway, I am looking at the points for 189 visa as well and was wondering if my skills assessment is successful, can I get points for "An award or qualification recognised by the relevant assessing authority for your nominated skilled occupation"? I have completed PGCE Primary (3-7) and MA in Early Years Education in England.

Thanks in advance x  

Hi there,

I'm looking into courses to go this route and have option of either a 3 year BA Primary Studies with QTS or a 2 year intense BA Early Years and care with EYPS plus i'd need a top up PGCE in Primary...Its a real mindfield as Oz criteria states you need a 4 year degree which i don't want to commit to if there are quicker options. My question is do you know whether QTS is sufficient or whether you have to have a PGCE to teach. Either route I will need a top up year so don't know whether to gain a 3 year  teach qualification and get PGCE in Early Years specifically or vice versa. I have a cache diploma  NNEB which is worthless now as ACECQA only view this equivalent to Cert 3 level....

Hi Guys

Beware the grading system in Australia, I paid for ACECQA to assess my Cache Diploma assuming it would be recognised as Diploma equiv in Australia...nope its not!!! Their website does state that Cache/NNEB/NVQ3 were all previously accepted as equivalent to a Diploma in Oz if taken prior to 2012, and only in QLD (which mine was...but they still won't award a Diploma. Level 3 may possibly be still accepted in QLD for work purposes...as Oz diploma level.... but NOT necessarily for migration purposes. They only awarded me a level 3 Certificate, even though they stated it was equivalent to level 4???..I would still have to pay for a full further course even with RPL as you still have to been seen to study for at least 2 years to sit their diploma (which you can only top up to in Australia at an average cost of $10000 per year). I am looking into options to study a higher level here e.g. first year degree, but then my age points go down:arghh:, also no guarantee that when you pass this the criteria changes again.

A degree from Uk in childcare and the likes should be sufficient!!! but they are also very particular about your experience with the 0-2 yrs range and you need sufficient supervised placements with this age group...Ironically I have this and more experience in placement practice from training alone than a trainee teacher is expected to do, yet if i studied first year teaching it could be a possibility as seen as superior qualification!?? I would be seen as working towards a degree but even teachers still have to top up experience with baby placement days/ theory, therefore have a lower qualification in early years 0-8yrs.

I've been going around in circles passed from dpt to dept, no-one will specify the course you need, and basically your paying between £800-£1200 plus to get this assessed by TRA. Good luck guys it sounds like you have a lot to offer with experience and quals just check 0-2 age range experience and that your qualifications match at least an australian bachelor degree.

Thankyou this is Ace!

Thanks all....yep pretty much as i thought...its a difficult one as raised my children between 2009-2015, I currently work as a support worker to a young person excluded from education (again a mix between social and educational role),but only 7 month experience so far. Managed a support centre between 2005-2009 and previous work all support services similar to welfare/ community work since 2002. Problem is the qualification side........loads of inhouse training but nooooo formal in welfare work other than an advanced counselling certificate which prob not high enough for recognition as i think equates to level 2 AQF. The Diploma in Community Service (OZ qualification for welfare work) is recognised by Acecqua as relevant for childcare.....even though its social related just wondered if my NNEB would be recognised by AWCA(welfare work association) but it seems not!!!!

Difficult thing is that here in UK experience accounts for a lot, whereby it seems quals are heavily weighted in Australia for migration purposes. I never short of opportunities to mix my social/ childcare here, and I'm guessing its the same in Australia...its just getting the opportunity to prove yourself I guess........just gonna keep applying with the hope of a sponsor and possibly look into training opps in Australia.....trouble is the cost especially having to pay school fees for kids too need a lot of money as average fees $23000 per year for three of us to enter education system. Impossible money for us and thus the reason why we couldn't afford to do it years ago also, and Only had 1 child back then!

Hitting 39yrs now so should i re-enter education i get the qualification...YAY... but loose in the age catogory for migration points, plus all previous work experience as would then be previous to the 10 year deadline mark. Very Frustrating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.immi.gov gives info for employers e.g. nominated skilled visa/ job agreements

Hi all,

Can anyone HELP Please...................Looking to use my CACHE DIPLOMA NNEB NURSERY NURSING (2002) as a diploma level qualification, either towards an application under Welfare worker or Childcare Centre Manager. I have management experience within a community capacity in a floating support project which assisted vulnerable families/individuals at risk of homelessness, but not unfortunately as a manager of a childcare centre. I am currently working with young people excluded from education and have previous experience working in residential care (children). Although these were some years back 2002-2009. I seem to be going around in circles as my job preferences tend to verge on the childrens services and social side.....Also having had a career break to raise my kids hasn't helped the situation. Lots of personal experience raising kids but noooooooo recognition as a parent???? Has anyone been in a similar predicament....I want to get my qual recognised....but it seems every time a course looks like it could be related for migration purposes the criteria changes. Has anyone successfully used this qual for entry under welfare work or childcare ???? Also what is a NNEB equiv under the AQF scale????????????:twitcy: