geordiekev

I appreciate what your saying , and i will keep it in mind when speaking to immigration when i fly back.

But there is a 461 nz partner/family visa which id be able to apply for in 4 month on the back of my gfs 444 .. and from there im sure we will figure out something. . But ultimately we will be able to spend the time together here in what we are calling home

My ex wife is now with an ozzy fella .. whome she met nearly as soon as we broke up. I think that shows that we were both hanging on for a fair while. And we are trying to build up evidence of our relationship as advised by people who went through same thing. We were in sydney for Christmas to meet my best mate and his mrs .. we have already booked to attend one of her family members wedding in march where ill meet all her family .. how we met and the circumstances may seem odd to some people but there's nothing to fabricate about our relationship.

Ill keep the feed updated when i re renter from bali because i thought this forum would be more about trying to help eachother rather than point fingers and judge

This is a charge in oz not when i came over on a whv. Damn like old fish wifes some people on here

I dont allow these venues to trade ..

I dont make the rules ..

Im just playing the hand i was dealt as best i can , they're legit licensed schools you know what i mean !

You were just dead set they didnt exist .. but you have knowledge of the 'crackdown' ???

Whys that ?

As i said .. 2.5gish for 6 month international students .. theyre all over Oz , i have plenty of mates who have studied these type courses

Well if 2.5 g for 6 month semester isnt pricey ? And yer 20 hours is sufficient

And if questioned i will prove to them my genuine reasons .. gotta be positive mate. Trust a jock to look on the downside

Under a tourist visa it says you can be entering to see fsmily and friends which i am doing .. their main objective is to make sure you dont work or over stay without the appropriate visa which i wont be doing.

Not entering illegally tho mate. . Not in the slightest

I have friends doing business study or personal training courses simply to buy time and theyre cheap as chips !!!

I will come in on a tourist visa to spend time with friends and gf , go on holiday ro nz and then apply for a student visa .. and yes i know student fees .. they range from 2.5g a semester to sky high prices obviously for more sought afyer courses !!! Theres no reason for me to be denied i have my flights to nz already booked .. and if i get denied ill roll with it

Yer but from the horses mouth .. they WOULD NOT have checked if id said i didn't have a record. Its a case of the right hand not knowing what the lefts doing .. immigration arent going to check every person. Im just saying if you have to go apply for a bridge after a cancelation then they will not be checking if what you say is the truth

Thats exactly what happened .. what do you mean ?

Just to update i went to immigration to ask for a bridge E visa , everything was going fine he was going to grant me 2 weeks from then and another 2 weeks when i came in with my tickets out. He then nonchalantly asked if i had ever been arrested i said yes as i had a minor conviction from a few years ago .. this changed everything, he told me hed grant me the visa but it'd be instantly cancelled once they got the charge sheet from WAP .. i could have went back in a week to appeal but itd be 50/50 and if it wa.s declined is be took straight from the immigration building to detention for a minimum 28 days rapid removal. I asked him if id said i didnt have a record would they have looked into it and he said no they dont have the time or resources. . So heads up to others honesty is not always the best policy !!!

Flying to bali within a week and intentions are to come in on a tourist visa and then a student visa

Thanks for everyone's help or pointers

Im not worried about that at all to be honest he says that everything were doing is exactly what they want to see as proof of a genuine relationship .. but now we are both worried they will not grant me the tourist visa which i wasnt really concerned about as i have no intentions of working and its to spend time with her and her family : /

I will be offshore when i apply.

Im just confused now as wheather to tell the truth that im coming back to spend time with my girlfriend, to go to her family wedding in march etc.

Or to lie and say im going on holiday up the coast and travel etc .. i genuinely thought telling the truth would fall into the category of seeing friends/family which is described as a reason to visit ..

Thats exactly what i am , we are heading to nz in march for a wedding .. im not going to fly home to fly all the way back in a few weeks .. tourist can be to see family friends etc and thats what im coming back to do.

I have savings my girlfriend has a good full time job .. theres no reason to deny me as my agent said .. im not coming through broke with no where to stay obv having to work to survive. . Quite the opposite

I have friends who have sponsored themselves through their own businesses tho. Thats a while down the line but i gaurentee we will find a way.

Point taken.

But we're solid .. she can go for PR at some stage im sure.

And we have asperations to live in Nz for a time so where theres a will theres a way

Yes i realise that but we will take it from there .. i will be starting a business next year and i know doors will be opened. Thanks for everyones help

Just an update .. my agent has informed me that because my girlfriend is on a temp visa 444 we inly have to have been together for 6 month .. so i will not appeal the decision to cancel my defacto 457 , leave and re enter on a tourist visa and literally wait out the remaining time .. were going to her families wedding in march so things like that really help the case .. so feeling positive

Thanks maggie .. that was my hope , by time they judge the appeal we could have been together 6 months + then i could go on a tourist visa for remaining