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Many good suggestions already. I'd add (depending on preference of course)...Eat Street market near Eagle Farm is great for an evening. Sirromet Winery near Redland Bay for lunch or dinner and occasional live music etc. A walk out to Wellington Point King Island reserve at low tide is enjoyable with lunch in the area. QPAC shows and a river cruise.

Only moved here (south Brisbane...bayside) 6 weeks ago so bear in mind I'm no expert. We had a similar emotional roller coaster as the house sale concluded. After all, we'd spent a long time making it home and it held many memories. It made us worry about the negatives (which we'd consciously researched).

To cut it short, we love it here. The people are great and the surroundings are beautiful. If you want a quiet or busy area, there's something for each taste. Ignore comments about being stuck in the 70's....it's definitely not!

Seen no spiders or snakes (except in Australia zoo!). Have seen a couple (literally) of cockroaches and a few mosquitoes. Nothing problematic though.

No you weren't. You were just trying to deflect from a rational debate you had no answer to by a childish "prove it".

 

Far from it. I am actively seeking facts on both sides of the debate and trying to filter out the noise.

The in vote is also for the unknown. Anything in the future is the unknown. You have no idea what EU will force upon the UK in the future.

 

 

 

 

Right back at you. Are you suggesting that the vote *is* about leaving WTO, NATO, UN, G8, G20? If so can you provide some evidence. Are you suggesting that the vote is about not recognising Interpol? Do you believe MI6 will stop cooperating with other agencies in the world? Could we get some evidence of this if so, thank you. I could go on but you get the just.

 

Whilst you are digging out those proofs, could you dig out a few other proofs: that the currency will collapse, that everybody in the world will stop trading with UK, that the economy will collapse, that price of grocery shopping will go up, that ISIS will take over London, that mortgage rates will rise, that climate change will be accelerated, that there will be more pollution, that the environment and wildlife will be at risk. These are just a few things I have picked up from my Facebook feed as claims from David Cameron and the remain campaign.

I was asking for references to weed out actual facts....otherwise it's just more noise.

I came across this which might help those who are unsure. It's a bit long but worth reading:

On June 23rd we have the chance to vote to return the decision making for our country's future to the British people and not some foreign politician that you have not chosen to represent you ?..

 

People want to know the facts. Here are some....."

Hope this helps :unsure:

Is there a version of this with referenced sources to the facts claimed?

Has anyone found a broker willing to take a trailing stop-loss on 23rd June converting GBP to AUD? I haven't, brokers reluctance seems to confirm (as do their comments to me) anticipation of significant volatility if there's a leave vote.

I think there is an awful lot of scaremongering going on at the moment. The idea that the pound will collapse if there were a Brexit result is preposterous in my view. The UK still has the fifth largest economy in the world and it will have on 24th June too.

 

People working in money markets will have considered the possible referendum outcomes a very long time ago, they won't wait until the morning of 24th June to think about it. Accordingly uncertainty and the possibility of a leave is already factored into the exchange rates. I would predict no more than a blip in sterling, whatever way the result goes.

I don't believe this is the case at all. The markets have largely factored in a remain vote, which is why any apparent swing towards a leave vote causes sterling to weaken.

Thanks Loulou. We head out soon and enjoyed your post.

Most utes are worth bringing as they cost a bundle over here!

How is that the case? It seems to me that it's worth £16k in the UK ($32k)...import costs will far exceed $4k plus you're left with a less valuable, harder to insure, harder to sell, personal import in Oz. Therefore, purchase in Oz at $36,800 seems the better choice. Am I missing something?

This thread recently elicited a range of answers......

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/welcome/244813-true-cost-migrate.html

40' door to door is costing us £4.7k plus 2% (of the contents value) insurance

The best I had is Pickfords....£4.7k + 2% insurance for a 40ft, door to door including wrap and pack at this end, unwrap and place in rooms at the other end. Inspection fees at the destination port are on top.

There was a thread a little while ago on total cost to migrate. There were differing views and much debate, but general consensus was around £30k - £50k total cost for a small family to migrate. Therefore, the visa cost is relatively small and the 189 gives you the most flexibility....making it money well spent in my view.

In the UK now you need to have saved around 33.3% of the value of the house you are buying before you get a mortgage. So for example a 300,000AD home would require a deposit of 100,000AD's Daunting to say the least.

I appreciate this thread is about Aus property, but just to comment on the above......

Mainstream lenders in the UK will still lend 90 - 95% LTV as long as affordability criteria are met.

With regard to property values, in the South they're now considerably higher than they were in 2008.

I expect so, plus other factors no doubt. I'm reading around it now...helps me understand a little bit more about what will soon be our new home country.

I think, unless I misread the stats, that the total number of people allowed to migrate to Aus each year has increased over the last ten years. However, steadily fewer of that total came from the UK.

I guess I'm curious about whether that's because it's less desirable to potential UK migrants, or Aus policies consciously set out to change the migration profile, or those from other countries have become more mobile.

Thanks all for taking the time to comment on my idle wondering and point me towards the reports. Those migration reports are quite interesting actually. Clearly the number of UK migrants are steadily declining both in absolute terms and as a proportion of the total, whilst those from Southern Asia are increasing rapidly.

Now I'm off to see if I can find out more about why that is - I'm interested in whether it's an intentional strategy, an outcome of increasing global mobility or other factors....likely a complex mix of all those I know.

A question to the longer term members of PIO. According to the anecdotal evidence from the PIO forum along with any other sources you might have, do you have a view on whether interest in migration to Aus from the UK is similar / up / down now (let's say "now" = over the last 12 moths) compared to interest over the last 10 years?

That's the status you see when everything was fine, so you can safely move on to the next worry :-)

I don't even have a great recommendation in my part of the the UK, so these suggestions in and around Brisbane have added to the list of things to try on arrival :-)

Personally speaking - because even with full shipping costs (inc taxes and the many other costs) and the cost of insuring personal imports, some cars would cost a lot more to replace with similar in Aus than it would to take it with you. Equally, if you sold it on arrival you could make a decent profit.

Hi,

I have no advice to offer I'm afraid, but was interested to note your plan to use HSBC and obtain Aus debit cards while in the UK. Is it 100% confirmed that they will do this? If so, I'd think about opening a Premier account with them myself to do the same (I understand the Premier account pre-reqs).

Whilst I wouldn't say we felt deflated, there was a definite change of feeling once we received our grants. I think (for us at least) it's associated with coming to terms with the fact that obtaining the visas, however easy or difficult, is just one step on a much longer journey.

In any case - glad you got your visas and wish you luck.

Thank you and yes, agreed, we'll have plenty of time to be tourists over the years and most of our initial focus needs to be on establishing our lives in our new home. Nevertheless, a bit of fun is also in order from the outset :-)