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I have just been granted my prospective partner visa and will be returning to Oz in the next few weeks. My PMV does not expire until Oct 2017 but we are planning on marrying in April 2017. I have read the information guide on the next stage of the process ie applying for the partner visa (temp) and it looks to be the same or very similar to the PMV application. i realise I need to supply marriage certificate and complete the application form and sponsor form again but can anyone advise me on how much evidence or what sort of evidence I will need to provide regarding the relationship as this was all provided for my PMV. I went into great depths about the start of our relationship, financial commitments , commitments to each other , household responsibilities etc do they need this all over again or is it a case of keeping them up to date with what is happening since the lodgement of the PMV? It's easy enough to send all relevant documents such as birth certificates as these were needed for the PMV Im just not sure what sort of evidence I need to provide other than a marriage certificate and documents. Many thanks

hi i`m no expert but i did just recently lodge a partner visa and i pretty much gave you all said you gave in the PMV. i`d maybe give them the same you already have just updated to the date when you lodge for the visa. i hope this helps but like i said i`m not sure its right i just saw no one else had replied yet.

Hi. Sorry you're going through this. It's bloody hard when you're feeling so anxious and stressed at work, so many would totally understand where you're at.

 

Some good advice above.

 

I can't add to anything except to say this will pass. It's just a bump in the road for now and just know the situation you're in won't be like this for the rest of your life.

 

Take a deep breath (I know, sounds daft!) but it does help. Write down all your options and then just start ticking things off the list. Explore each and every avenue in front of you and seek out paths you make not have considered.

 

I'm sure whatever the outcome it'll work out for you. Good idea to speak to your GP too, even just speaking to a professional person can help - getting it off your chest.

 

I'm also sure you and your family will be ok in the long run. This is just a situation for now - it will definitely pass.

 

All the very best.

thanks i appreciate everyones advice and wise words good idea i think to write a list then see what avenues i haven't explored yet

ah, I see, your partner is an Aussie. Well that sounds like it might work. If the 90 days runs out, then surely you would go on a bridging visa pending your application grant. That's a long time without work....sounds nice. :-) I guess you could apply for the job that you think would feel right, and request them to transfer your 457, and if nothing comes of it, then you have something to fall back on. It sounds like you will be alright chef. Cheers

I spent 6 months off work last year after having surgery on a broken wrist, id be a little more useful this time round being able to help my partner and daughter more

its frustrating looking for jobs seeing heaps that are ideal but not being able to apply because of the visa.

thanks bud

Hi Mate,

 

I was in the same boat as you, a couple of times in fact, where the job doesn't suit and you feel like you are trapped. These situations were caused by management change also. There are a number of options for you. What I would do though, is wait the short while until your partner is added to your 457 visa, and then you both have options. Luckily for you, as a chef, there are hundreds of jobs going out there, a

nd for another company to transfer your 457 as oppose to renewing a 457, is an awful lot cheaper. Obviously if your partner is on this at that time, than that enables you to move to your next job as a family unit, so it is worth waiting for. Also, once you leave your job, you have 90 days to find another sponsor willing to employ you, not the 28 days that it used to be.

 

The other option, is to look at applying for a PR visa (186), direct entry. You do not have to complete the 2 years with your employer, and you could go for GSM.

 

 

If I was you, and you had the funds available (around $11000 all up with migration agent fees, around $6800 without), I would wait for you partner to get onto your 457, look for a transfer of your visa to another company, and then apply for the 186/187 visa while you are with your new employer- direct entry (should take around 9 months currently). And then get on with your life.

 

It is pretty tough mate, and sometimes it can be an unbearable situation, but all the best with it, and just remember, you are only as trapped as you feel. Even if you have to move back home and apply for a more appropriate visa, that gives you the freedom of choice and movement. All the best mate, and I hope something comes up soon. I'm a head chef myself, and feel empathy towards your situation.

 

Also, if you are really stuck, I know a few people around Oz, who are looking to hire good chefs on a more permanent visa, if you want some details, just send me a PM, and ill help you where I can.

Thanks bud appreciate that, i am on the hunt for something new workwise as I couldn't last another year there.

I do currently have a visa application in that's a 820 partner visa as my partner is an Australian resident and we've been together 3 years with an 18 month old daughter, that's only 2 months ago so could be another 12 months. We are looking into if I would be on a bridging visa if I left and the 90 days runs out then I'd be a stay at home dad while my partner worked until there was a decision made about the 820 visa.

thanks once again

Thanks for the advice anyone, I'm just hoping me partner visa is one of the lucky ones that gets approved a bit quicker than most, I submitted in October 2016 and was asked to attend a medical a week later so hoping that was a good sign although I have had surgery on a broken wrist in 2016 so maybe that is what they were checking

hows your son going now did he stay in Brisbane? i'm trying my best to keep my chin up thanks bud

It all depends where your going to be working I guess, personally as a family man with a lot of friends with kids I can vouch for such suburbs as enoggera, keppera, mitchelton all on the Ferny grove train line, I too hail from Manchester and they are in no way anything near as rough as it is there.

Lovely places to raise a family.

Hope that isn't your real name Eddie. If it is suggest asking a moderator if you can change it to a pseudonym.

 

I have no particular advice other than what you have already have but wish you well. Many of us have been trapped in a job we hate at some period (usually financial reasons) but the visa issue makes it feel even worse I am sure.

this is my real name it might seem a bit silly I know but its nothing that isn't known at my work anyway I have however requested for a change anyway.

thanks for your best wishes

Thanks cal, I am definitely going to look for a new sponsor, the last time I did took 2 months, I am going to seek medical help to and see if there is anyway the dr can help me out. I won't leave if my only option will be to return the the uk it's just not possible.

The Bridging Visa will only kick in if/when the 457 expires. If it is cancelled,no Bridging Visa.

Could I ask a question, I have read multiple times that a 457 visa holder has 3 options: find a new sponsor, lodge for another substantial visa or leave the county? As I have already lodged for another visa would I not be on a bridging if I lost my job and didn't find a new sponsor in the allotted time? Thanks

Hello to anyone who is reading this and thanks for taking the time.

My name is Eddie i'm currently on a 457 visa (expires apr 2018) I am a chef working in Brisbane, my sponsor changed hands a year ago and work has been going downhill for me from then, to the point where I feel sick to my stomach at the thought of going in the next morning.

I have a partner who I have applied for a partner visa with (oct 2016) but I feel like I can't keep going to work for much longer, its extremely difficult to find another sponsor in my industry especially as I have young family and just upping and moving isn't much of an option with leases and such.

I am seeking advice on what to do? should I just leave? should I be seeking a medical professional to provide me with medical certificates? what would be any ramifications if I left and my 457 was cancelled i.e bridging visas and the pending partner visa?

many thanks for taking the time to read this

Hi mate, the England games will be on at the pig & whistles in Brisbane, I normally watch late night games at the local RSL it's easier to get too.

Hi Everyone,

 

The first England game is this Sunday at 5am! I think it's on Foxtel but we don't have it at our house. Does anyone know any pubs etc in Brisbane or Gold Coast where we can watch it?

 

Thanks.

 

Mark

Their phone reps are notorious for giving out incorrect information. Your Bridging Visa A will be automatically issued when you apply for the Partner Visa, but it will NOT kick in until your 457 EXPIRES on its own, and you continue to be bound by your 457 conditions until your Partner Visa is granted (or your 457 expires, whichever happens first). If you stop working for a sponsoring employer and your 457 is cancelled, as Engaus said above, you'd most likely be dealing with a BVE and have no work rights whatsoever - you'd have to apply for them and demonstrate serious hardship circumstances, and even then you might not get them. Your safest bet is to find another sponsoring employer if you can.

I was extremely frustrated to be told this exact thing after I had spent a whole week preparing my partner visa application when I could have been out there looking for a sponsor.

What happened to the sponsor you had for the 457?

at the moment I'm not entirely sure I have left that in the hands of the fair working ombudsman.

thanks guys have taken all your recommendations on board and will soon be following up on these. really thank you for your help

My daughter lodged her partner visa before leaving her 457 visa job.

Bridging visa A issued, but wouldn't take effect until her 457 ceased. 457 can be cancelled, but cannot cease until the end of the original length of time it was issued for so bridging visa A wouldn't apply.

In my daughter's case, she was 2 years into a 4 year 457, so

she then went on bridging visa E (not allowed to work or leave the country)

she and her partner applied for the work restrictions to be lifted due to financial hardship, which they had to prove.

Her work restrictions were lifted, but I can't remember how long it took, I think at least a few months, but when lifted she could work for anyone, but still couldn't leave the country.

Once the 820 was granted she could still work for anyone and leave the country

this was a couple of years ago.

 

She and her partner did use an agent for the original application, who also then made sure they lodged enough proof of hardship.

 

hope this helps, good luck

Sounds like almost the same situation we are currently in, there is no doubt if i don't have a job we are going be financially struggling we are currently on the verge of asking friends and family for money. I will set up a meeting with an agent ASAP and see what they recommend/what they need to prove financial hardship.

thanks for your response and advice

thanks for the info guys, don't suppose there is a MARA agent that either of you would recommend in Brisbane? in the meantime i will continue to search for a sponsor and hope i find something really soon before money becomes tight, have enough for the partner visa just but might have to speak to an agent before i apply for that incase there is a different way to go.

excited butterfield I can't really offer much advice as I'm no expert on the matter but I currently am on a 457 visa that was granted in april 2014, my employer has let me go because they weren't meeting my sponsorship requirements regarding pay, I am in a relationship with an aussie and we were looking at applying for a partner visa because I'm finding it really hard to find a new sponsor, I was told by the immigration dept that I would still have to remain sponsored until the partner visa is granted (12-15 months). i am on the verge of applying for financial hardship as were expecting a baby and soon the missue will be on maternity leave so i'll be the only only able to work but without a job.

You have to stay on your student visa until it expires naturally or your partner visa is granted. Trying to get out of studying is messy and will mean your BVA with work rights is cancelled and you will be put on a BVE which means you have no work rights, you can't leave australia at a until your partner visa comes through, and any time you spent in Australia prior to the BVE coming into effect will not be counted towards citizenship.

 

You can apply for work rights on a BVE but you have to show hardship and they are tightening up on approving work rights because too many people are abusing the student visa and using it as a way to get to australia to apply for a partner visa.

Engaus I am experiencing the exact same problem but I am switching from a 457 visa to a 801/820 partner visa, at 1st I was told by immigration department twice that once I had lodged for the 801/820 I would be put on a BV, So I have spent the last 10 days getting all that together myself because I can't afford an agent only to be told by someone different at immigration that I actually would have to continue on the 457 working conditions. however I am massively struggling to find a sponsor, my partner is 4 months pregnant and sick and now I'm worrying where money is gonna come from.

any advice please would be much appreciated thanks

Hi all I've been in oz 16 months now and in a de-facto relationship since day 1. the relationship is almost 2 years in total. we are expecting our 1st child and I was just released from my job because I confronted my manager about the wage being below what he was supposed to be paying. I am struggling to find a new sponsor and have been told that even if I apply for a partner visa I will still have the sponsorship restrictions. I am hoping to have the working restrictions lifted because I can't find a sponsor and soon we will be financially struggling with a child on the way and a missus on maternity pay. any help please would be very grateful