minijax172

Not the point on this thread, but I am curious as to what rule changed on 1st July that meant you were unable to apply for a visa?

 

I have just had a very quick read on POTS syndrome, it seems like it is something that can improve with the right treatment or lifestyle changes. Perhaps you do need to take the next year or two to focus on your health and then maybe you will be in a better position to apply later. But do have that migration agent consultation before you spend money on a visa application.

 

Good luck.

Sorry I should have explained better, because the years of experience needed changed and I can't work now to get the rest of the experience needed.

Thank you, yes I will be concentrating on my health for the next couple of years, it can be managed but can flare up again at any time and it's something you have for life. But it's mainly managed with exercise and medication so I'm hoping it won't cost too much and won't stop me getting back to Australia in the future.

I will be taking your advice, thank you so much :-)

Thank you both so much for your replies. It was pretty much guaranteed that I could get a visa up until rules changed on July 1st. I am now unable to do my job anyway as I'm a hairdresser and I now can't stand for long without almost fainting. So I have had to give up my job. My partner has been told he will certainly be able to get a visa in a couple of years though. So I am way ahead of myself but twice now I have gone to apply for a visa and have been heartbroken due to rules changing or not having enough experience at the time etc. I just don't want to be keeping my hopes up to find out in a couple of years time that we can't get out there. I was out there on a working holiday visa before I became unwell so only managed to spend 5months there, I had a sponsorship lined up and everything. Completely broke me having to come home. I can't even bare the thought of not being able to live out there again. So this is why I am wondering so much in advance.

Thanks again :-)

Hi,

I'm wondering if someone could help me please. I have been unwell for quite some time and I am still waiting to be diagnosed but it's thought that I have POTS syndrome. It's not something that's hugely well known. Is there anyway that I can find out if this could prevent me from emigrating in the future? If anyone has any advice or knows how I could find out I would be so grateful.

Thank you

Sarah

Thanks for your replies guys

I'm still none the wiser about whether a skills test is required, but I will continue to hunt for the answer!

 

Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year!

Hi, I was just wondering if you had any luck finding out if you needed a skills assessment for 187?

Sarah

This is why if you can afford to, using a MARA agent is worth every penny.

Advice on forums are often missing vital bits of info, often correct but not complete if that makes sense.... And also very often they are incorrect.

Good luck with everything x

Yes I think I will use an agent nearer the time of applying for my visa. Got a few things to sort out here first.

Thank you :-)

Yes that's fine as supporting evidence. The content of the stat dec is also very important though, it has to be detailed and can't be just "I declare I worked here between such and such dates".

Ok I will look into that then. Thank you so much for your help :-)

I think what Wesley is getting at is a stat dec will not be sufficient on its own. If you can't get a reference there's no other choice but a stat dec and plenty of other supporting evidence to verify the info on the stat dec.

Oh I see, ok thank you. I have P45, P60, bank statements and a statement of earnings from HMRC, do you think all of that with a stat dec would be ok?

Thank you, Sarah

It is most unlikely that a statutory declaration would be sufficient.

oh no really? I don't suppose there is any other way is there?

You can do a statutory declaration if they refuse. I'd think best to have the employer statement over a stat dec though.

Some people can't get in touch with employers etc or they don't respond and so have to do a stat dec xx

Thanks jodipodi, I will try and if I have no luck I will do a statutory declaration :smile:

Thank you for your replies, I am in England I will ask but I am unsure if one or two of them will do it.

Thanks again

Sarah :-)

Hi.............I qualified level 3 in July 2013 (C&G) and there was no chemical straightening on that qualification? Also men's hair was a separate course which I also done alongside doing my level 3.

I have also looked at the lists for all of the states last month and only Northern Territory were sponsoring hairdressers, I'm wanting to get to Perth so I'm devastated xx

 

Good Luck xx

Thanks for your reply. There's still lots of visas available for hairdressers:

The 190 visa for South Australia, Northern Territory and Tasmania.

The 489 visa for Queensland, Northern Territory and Tasmania.

Unfortunately no Western Australia for you but there is ways in to Australia for you. Then after a couple of years you could always move to Perth.

On the Vetasses, Victoria University and Tradeset website they all say you need to be able to do chemical straightening. I'm going to try do a few courses soon.

The lists update on 1st of July so keep an eye out, you never know Western Australia may come back on it. :-)

http://www.anzscosearch.com/ Look up hairdresser on there, it's much clearer to see which states are doing what and it's updated pretty regularly.

Sarah

Hi Laura,

I haven't started applying for my visa yet as I need to do another year working in a salon over here first. As I haven't worked employed full time in the past 2 years. I qualified in 2006 level 2, but didn't do perming as part of the course so I'm going to try find a short course so can get a certificate in perming. Also mens hairdressing wasn't included in level 2, I've been doing mens hair since I qualified as I had in salon training but no proof or certificate for it. So I still have a long way to go and lots to do before I can start applying.

Have you looked at Victoria University for skills assessment? I've been comparing it with Vetassess and apparently it's a little more straight forward.

Sarah

I'm afraid there's unlikely to be anyone in the same boat because the assessing authority has only just changed from TRA to a TRA approved RTO (which will have different criteria).

 

I'd suggest strong statements, photos and other supporting evidence to show experience in any units of competency that weren't part of your NVQ.

Oh I see, ok that's great, thank you Adam for your advice

Sarah :-)

Dont you need sponsorship for hairdressing now?

yep state or employer sponsorship

Welcome, have you checked the Skills list to see if hairdressers are needed in Aus. Also look at the different State lists, good luck

Yes its on the CSOL list in quite a few states. I'm looking at the 489 visa in QLD. I've gathered loads of information about it all but need answers to the hairdressing questions. I have also contacted Victoria university skills assessment but says can take a week to reply. So wondered if anyone else had been in the same boat but managed a positive skills assessment.

Thanks

Hi,

I'm wondering if someone can help me please, I qualified City & Guilds NVQ Level 2 in 2006. I don't know if anyone else is in the same position but to qualify for AQF III you have to be able to do mens hair, perming and chemical straightening.

I don't know about what's included in level 2 now, but at the time mens hair and chemical straightening wasn't included in the course. Since qualifying I learnt how to do these with in salon training but didn't go in any courses so really I am not qualified in these areas. I also didn't do perming in my course as I had the choice to opt out of perming and choose something else. I have also since learnt that.

Has anyone else been in the same situation and had a successful skills assessment? I guess I could do a couple of short courses to get certificates but it's just more money on something I already know what to do and have done plenty of times.

Any help would be very much appreciated

Thank you

Sarah

Hi guys,

To get my skills assessed for a 489 visa I need to get employment statements from ex employer's to prove my work experience.

Does anyone know if this is something the ex employers have to do by law or can they refuse?

I know now a couple of them will do it but I'm unsure if the other one will.

Sorry if this seems like a silly question I am just trying to do all I can before I start the whole process.

Thank you!

Hi Sarah,

 

My wife is in the same boat. She is a Level 5 hairdresser , but hasn't worked for the last 4 years due to our young children. (worked for 15 years before our children)

 

One migration place said its not a problem, another one said she needs to work for at least 12 months, minimum 20 hours per week.

Hi Rink,

Thank you for your reply, it is really hard isn't it.

I have just posted above what the TRA website says and I think that is probably the best guide to go by as they will be the ones assessing our hairdressing skills.

Thanks for your advice too though :smile:

Sarah

Skills assessment requirements vary by occupation, you would have to read up on what is required for your particular occupation. There is no visa rule that says you need to be in the occupation at the time of application.

Thank you for your reply Rupert, I have just found this on the TRA website so I think this is the best guide to go from as they will be the ones assessing my skills.

To be eligible for a successful TRA Migration Skills Assessment outcome you must provide evidence of:

• a qualification comparable to the relevant Australian qualification for the nominated occupation, and

• three years of full-time paid employment in the nominated occupation at the required skill level, and

• at least 12 months of paid employment in the nominated occupation in the three years immediately before applying.

Thanks again, Sarah

Hi guys,

Does anyone know if you have to be employed in your skilled occupation at the time of applying for your visa? I keep finding all sorts of different information online and its getting confusing. I haven't worked full time in a salon since 2011 (except for a month or so when I was in Australia last year on a WHV). Since July 2011, I have only worked part time self employed in a salon for 8 months and I had my own home hairdressing business for about a year and a half which doesn't add up to enough hours to count.

For skills assessment, I THINK you have to have worked for at least a year full time in your occupation in the last 3 years. But I read elsewhere that it doesn't matter as long as you have over 3 years work experience in the past 10 years.

I am hoping to get back into a salon over here ASAP.

Any help would be hugely appreciated.

Thank you

Sarah

im at the very last stage of applying for 457. Nearly ready to be submitted

Oh ok I think the 457 visa requirements are quite different to the 489. Thank you for you reply though and good luck, it's great to hear your almost there.

Wishing you all the luck :-)

Sarah

I havnt been asked to prove anything yet or if I will but i have supplied full cv and references from all employers relating to my sponsorship.

I found a thread which might be helpful. http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/156840-work-experience-proof.html

That's great, thank you for your reply. Which visa are you applying for? I'm looking at 190 or 489

Please can someone explain what can be used as proof of work experience. Out of all the years I have worked I only have one P60 and some wage slips. I have also just got a statement of earnings from HMRC.

For the ones I don't have P60 or pay slips can I use:

Bank statements?

Letter from employers?

P45 (which only shows leaving date not start date)?

If anyone has been in the same situation I would be so grateful for any advice. I am trying to gather as much information as I can to make sure I can prove enough work experience etc before I start any of the application process.

Thank you in advance!

Sarah

Hi minij

 

You also get 30 hours online practice when you book the IELTS test, they will send you login details so you can access materials through the official site.

 

Just get used to the format of the test, then keep practicing

 

 

The test is in 4 parts:- listening, reading, writing and speaking. You will sit the listening, reading and writing in one test sitting (3 hours - one hour for each) speaking is done at a separate time either on the same day or on a different day - it depends on the test centre and the demand on the day.

 

Its all very official, you will queue up then they check your ID etc and take your photo, then you will be assigned a seat. You have to leave all personal belongings outside the exam room usually in the reception area.

 

The listening part is first, this is quite straightforward, you just mark your answers in the booklet they provide. Try to keep concentrating though as one hour of listening to the recordings drone on cane make you drift off. Try practicing a few and get used to the format of the recordings.

 

The reading section is next, they again will hand out the booklets and then start the timer. Most of it is fairly straightforward, but one section is a true/false/not given and you have to pick an answer from a block of text. Try not to read too much into it, if it's there in black and white then it will be true (or false if it states the opposite). Another section you have to read a series of paragraphs and decide which statement matches. Again try a few practices to get used to it.

 

The writing section will consist of two parts, the first will be to compose a letter (they give you the details) such as writing a note to a friend who needs directions or help with travelling around the UK. This should be at least 150 words, it's very straightforward and I wouldn't spend more than ten/fifteen minutes on this section. If it says write to a friend then start the letter dear xxxx (first name) and keep the letter fairly informal. If it says you are writing a more official letter then start it dear sir/madam or dear mr xxxx etc. and state the reason for the letter 'I am writing to complain about xxxx' or 'further to the recent changes, I am writing to express my xxxxx'.

 

The second part of the writing test will be an essay, this is only I think 250 words. You will be given a statement and asked if you agree or what are the benefits or consequences of the given statement. Structure your essay so it has an introduction (so re-word the statement they've given you, do t just copy it word for word) and state what the essay will aim to do.

 

Usually you would then go on to give reasons for and against, so intro, paragraph on reasons for, next paragraph on reasons against then write a conclusion.

 

This is a bit rushed as I'm multitasking and typing on an iPhone, but hopefully it will give you some idea.

Hi adonna

Thank you so much for taking the time to write and explain everything to me I am very grateful. I am ordering a couple of books to also help me before I book the test, so fingers crossed I will be able to get my head around it all and do well.

Thanks again

Sarah :smile:

Preparation is the name of the game.

Review under test conditions.

Register for a pre-test workshop.

http://aapress.com.au/ is a good resource

Thank you so much for the link, it looks great :smile: