Selina Smith

Is there any way to complete registration before we get out? I have gone through the Non-Practising Registration and the only problem I face is that my supporting docs must be certified by Australian High Commission which isn't possible. Am I able to get a contact who is on the list and practising in Australia to do this? If not any suggestions?? Thanks

I had a teacher friend who is living in Australia to certify mine. Luckily she was in the UK visiting family at the time and TRBWA were happy with all the documents I sent. X

I received my AITSL assessment today for SEN teacher! So excited.

 

 

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Congratulations! One more box ticked!! X

Hi Selina,

If you want to work in the school system over here, you will not be able to just request kindergarten (reception/early years) and will have to have your qualifications assessed through AITSL. However, if you would like to work as an Early Childhood Teacher (ECT) in preschools or day care centres, you will only need to get your qualifications assessed through ACECQA. You will need the 0-2 yrs experience for this to be awarded ECT. I was a primary school teacher in UK and got my teacher status through GTP route which is not recognised so unless I do a 2 year masters in primary here, I have to work as an ECT. I always worked in reception so I dont mind this so much as senior preschool here is also aged 4 to 5.

Hope that helps

Thanks Roxy,

I already have a positive assessment from AITSL as an Early Childhood Teacher but thought if I wanted to work in a school doing kindergarten I would have to register with the teaching board of the specific state (I am thinking of going to Perth so that would be the TRBWA)? How have you found working in a private preschool? And how did you find the ACECQA assessment, did you already have 0-2 experience? To gain 0-2 experience it looks like supply work is the answer. Thank again for the reply :-) x

Hi,

I've posted this on another thread so sorry for repeating but thought more people would see it here and be able to offer some advice....

I am in my 2nd year of teaching in Early Years but am currently on maternity leave, I have requested to return to my current school in January as part time because the cost of childcare will eat up the majority of my wages. My request was denied :-( now I have until Monday to tell my school if I will be returning to work in January full time or leaving completely. I have been in touch with a supply agency who say they can definitely get me work 3 days a week. Have worked out that doing 3 days on supply would be better for me financially compared to working full time and paying for childcare full time but the work isn't guaranteed and I don't get paid during the holidays. I also need to consider what will be best when it comes to registering as a teacher in Australia, I would like to stay in Early years. I'm thinking all of the form filling and requesting references would be easier if I have been at the same school since the start of my career but with supply I may be able to get experience with children age 0-2 which will cover some of the requirements for registration with ACECQA (which is who I need to register with to be able to work specifically in Early Years) this won't pay as good a wage as supply in a school and we are desperately trying to save for our move. Any advice on what would be the best course of action?????? Thanks in advance xx

Can anybody advise on payment for AITSL application...two options are Australia post money order or credit card. We don't have credit cards and the post money only seems to be available at Australian post offices. Can you pay by visa debit??

I paid on my visa debit without a problem x

With regards to finding a permanent job in Perth when you arrive, you will find it very hard. You may find something easily in a day care centre though. The hours are not so great and the pay is pretty average compared to a school setting.

 

You will most likely need to do relief at schools and hopefully get your face known to do a short term contract - that happens for most.

 

There is no way you will walk into a permanent early childhood job here as soon as you arrive, not when there are many excellent quality local candidates who cannot secure jobs.

 

Last year all of the Perth universities encouraged their undergrads to re-think primary and early childhood and switch to secondary. There are simply too many grads and too few jobs. Contract work (if you are lucky) will be your most likely option.

Thank you for the reply. I understand that it will be difficult to get anything permanent in a school so have been looking at childcare centres. I have a baby that will have just turned one when we make the move and have seen a lot of day care centres offer a discount for children of staff so this may offset the drop on wages a little. I've also had a look into the legalities of running my own family day care too but this obviously depends on the type of property we can secure when we arrive. I'm thinking ACECQA will only assess my qualification as a cert III because my course didn't cover 0-2 age range which seems to be a problem for a lot of UK early years teachers. It's a bit of a minefield!!! X

Hi,

Looking for a bit of advice from fellow teachers. I am waiting on a visa grant for a 189 under Early Childhood teacher. My family and I are looking to move over Summer 2016 (in time for new jobs being advertised for Jan 2017 start). My husband may have a job offer in Perth so that's where we will be headed. I have just completed my NQT and am on maternity leave. I really don't want to go back to my current school full time and have been told part time will not be an option. I don't want to start at a new school when I will be leaving in the summer and think I'll struggle to find a fixed term, part time contract.

This leaves supply work but will this make it difficult to prove to TRBWA how many years service I have? Will I find it harder to find a permanent position in Australia if I have done supply in the UK? If I were to do supply work in a private nursery/kindergarten would this count towards my years of service because in Australia there has to be a qualified Early years teacher employed by the nursery but that is not the case in the UK?

Thank you x

Ok I've missed a major factor here....do I need to do IELTS test before skills assessment??? Was being a little naive presuming as a British citizen I didn't need to! How do I go about this please??

If you are a British citizen and studied for your degree and teaching qualification in the UK you don't need to provide AITSL with your IELTS results. I only used IELTS to claim 20 points for migration and took it after I sent all of my AITSL paperwork away.

Selina & Ben - Can you believe I got my both 189 visa and my first Oz teaching post today?! I'm just about to pop the prosecco cork, I feel so lucky. Australia - see you in January!! :jiggy::jiggy::jiggy:

Thats great news chatterbox!! Double celebrations for you. Did you Skype interview for your teaching post? X

Fingers crossed for you!!! Don't worry about the Delia, I've been called worse :-) x

Good luck to you too!! Have you front loaded everything? We are going to wait until the CO requests PCC and medical just to give us extra time to move or validate the visa x

Hi Selina,

 

I'm by no means an expert but my guess would be that it shouldn't be an issue as your maternity was surely paid leave, whereas that says "unpaid" leave?

Thanks Chatterbox, that's what I was thinking x

Hi Ben,

 

For Perth state schools:

 

To be considered, Statements of Service must be on official letterhead or, if via email, the sender’s email

account must contain the official school/institution email domain (eg. det.wa.edu.au). Statements must also

include the following information:

• the exact dates for commencement and cessation of employment (eg. 30 January 2006 to

18 December 2007);

• job title;

• work capacity for example full-time or part-time - must state work fraction (e.g. 70%);

• if unpaid leave was taken, the exact duration of this leave must be stated;

• if no unpaid leave was taken, the document must state this; and

• employment status (e.g. permanent, fixed term or casual).

 

From a document called "Recognition of prior service" which is always at the bottom of each job ad.

 

Hope this helps.

Hi,

I am currently on maternity leave from my teaching post in the UK would this time count towards experience as I am still officially employed by the school or will it be discounted?

Thanks x

That's how I would read it Jazzhead, I'm on Maternity leave at the moment and have had my NQT year signed off early but a migration agent I had a consultation with encouraged me to start the process even though I had only just passed my PGCE. I think actual teaching experience only comes into question when applying for registration for the different states and of course applying for jobs x

No worries, we are all on here to help each other out.

As far as I know, you will not be asked about the NQT year BUT as I haven't filled out the form myself yet I can't guarantee it...... Hopefully someone else will be able to give a definite answer x

For migration points you only need to take the IELTS general but it's worth checking what the teaching board of the state you want to go to require in case they would prefer Academic (I know for WA and VIC if you have 4 years of UK university education this is enough and you don't need Academic IELTS). As you are not claiming points for work experience you can apply for a 189 during your NQT year x

I'd suggest getting a move on these things seem to take forever! Remember your AITSL and IELTS are valid for 2 years and you can have your visa for 5 years before making a permanent move (you need to validate it in the first 12 months from your medicals or Pcc). Plus you never know when things will be taken off the SOL X

I think the 60 will be your max but at least you have enough to apply. I'm in the same position as you with points as I'm just completing my NQT. Was hoping to have skills assessment back sooner as it's my 33rd Birthday in July and would have been able to claim 30 points for age if I was invited to apply before my birthday but it looks as if it's not meant to be. Will still have the magic 60 points though so not too worried. Good luck, I'm sure you'll still get an invite with 60 points x

It does sound like the right form, and yes it very strange but AITSL only go on qualifications, not experience. For the 45 supervising teaching practice I had to get an official letter from the university that said how many days I did and they also had to include the age ranges of the children I worked with (I'm applying for early years teacher). I'm still waiting for a decision from them. If you go to the jobs and careers forum there is a really helpful thread called 'Teachers in Oz' it discusses the whole process and has information from people who have passed AITSL and registered with a state.

Yep it's worth having a look, I've just checked Vic and WA as they would be our top pics if we are successful with our visa and they will accept the 4 years Uni education. Phewwww did not want to have to redo the IELTS!!! X

We had a consultation with a migration agent and I asked specifically what test I needed to book. They told me general was fine to get the 20 points for immigration. I did ask about registration and they said because I'm a British citizen and have been educated in the UK I wouldn't have to prove English proficiency :-( hmmmmmm won't be happy if that info was wrong.

This is is from the AITSL website though:

English language proficiency assessment is not required for registration as a teacher where the full four years of required higher education study (or qualifications assessed as comparable) have been undertaken in English in Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, the United States of America, Canada and the Republic of Ireland. (These are the countries accepted under Australian migration policy as not requiring English language proficiency assessment.)

If you need IELTS for immigration points you only need to take the general. If you do not have a British, Irish, Canadian, USA or NZ passport and need to prove a English proficiency for AITSL you need to take the academic X

I have just taken the IELTS general exam and luckily got speaking:9, reading:9, listening:9 and writing:8. I would suggest looking at you tube for lots of clips. There is a specific way they want you to answer the writing essay so this is what I revised the most. I found ieltsliz helpful on you tube and she has a website with lots of good revision questions. Ieltssimon is another good website. Good luck x

If you are a British citizen as your transcripts are from a British university you don't need IELTS for AITSL assessment x

Hi,

this is thread has been so helpful, hoping that teachers who have been through skills assessment and registration can answer a quick question....

I am going to a solicitors tomorrow to get my documents certified for AITSL. I'm being charged a flat fee for all of my documents so wondered how many copies of my evidence I should get certified?

I'll need one set for AITSL, then I assume the teaching board of whatever state I'm going to (looking like WA) will need copies, then as I want to register as an early years teacher I'll need copies for ACECQA??

Hoping to to get them all done in one big go

Thank you,

Selina