ozpursuit

1 hour ago, silencio said:

This statement is not just stupid and an insult to all tax paying and contributing PR's. The point is: it's completely wrong and PR bashing of an obviously envious person who is unable to apply for PR in the first instance.  Ozpursuit doesn't obviously know that students are only allowed to work 20 hours per week. Well, if the student he knows contributed more tax in 1 year as a PR I request proof how that works out! Many international students and domestic students pay a heck of student fees etc and the aim is to gain a reputable Australian University Degree therefore student visas are for students only not for migrants. Well, if somebody uses it as a back door for migration that's another story. I know many students abroad including myself who never had the intention to settle there. The purpose was simply to obtain an International recognised degree to enhance professional reputation.

Well,  temporary residents on 457 can apply anytime for PR if they qualify. Yes, I know that's the point and this forum is full of warnings and sad stories in regards to this visa and its associated pitfalls! Again, no proof how they pay more tax then PR's. How about evidence anyway? All stupid, unsustainable claims, actually not worth to discuss.

 

I forgive the myopic view of this person (and the other person who came before, and those who will come after) and I rise above those who use deprecating words. They are uncalled for, non-constructive, does not invite nor contribute to a meaningful discussion.

Supposed the bill was founded on greater integration and contribution, 4 years on PR is harsh to those who were on temporary visa and has become PR for a year and qualified for citizenship. Their contribution will not compare to the contribution and degree of integration just because as much as there may be minute similarities, they are different. They do not compare does not mean the other has greater or lesser contribution or degree of integration. Although tax paid is quantifiable, it's hard to quantify integration. Hence the conundrum in some provisions of the bill. I concede that the post could have been clearer to include other aspects of contribution such as contribution to innovative research (for PhD students), community volunteer work, cultural exchange and a whole lot more. The point you raise is so true ian360 (The thing I don't understand is the argument I am seeing on here about who pays the most tax). Those advertising the obscene amount of tax money they pay to the government seem to want to justify that they are worthy of citizenship when what I was hoping was the discussion of the issues of A and B or those who have been on provisional visa before PR, or those who have been partners, or those who were in special circumstances. 

Fact check:

students are only allowed to work 20 hours per week - depends if you're undergraduate or graduate student, could be full time hours on term breaks

But then again, given the misgivings of my post, I think just because tax money is very quantifiable some people are fixated to zoom in on that.

If this bill is about greater integration and contribution to the society, the 4 year wait is harsh. Someone said there is no difference between people who came here on direct PR visa vs the temporary visa. But there is.

• 5 years on 457 and one year PR. This person has contributed taxes for 5 years and had spent his hard earned money in the Australian economy. He has likely made his life here, enjoyed the company of his colleagues and friends.
• 10 years on student visa and one year PR. This person, just the same, spent and invested her money to gain an Australian qualification which must have been very expensive for an international student. She's likely working on the side and would've paid taxes. As with person one, she's made a life here, enjoyed the company of her Australian and international friends and had celebrated every occasion that is Australian.

If the bases of the bill are greater social integration and proven contribution to the society, why do those years that person A and B spent on temporary visa are overlooked by the citizenship changes?

I would even argue that those who came in as a direct RP would NOT compare to the contribution and degree of integration that person A and B would've demonstrated.

It is not the citizenship that must be changed, it is the permanent residency program that should be reviewed.

Hi,

I intend to submit an 887 application by the end of June. By that time, my passport validity date will be less than 6 months (my passport expires 19 January 2017). Will the system (immi account) allow me to lodge a valid application despite my passport validity being less than 6 months?

My plan is to renew my passport after lodging a valid application. I understand that I can renew my passport first before lodging an 887 application but processing for a new passport takes 1 to 2 months. I want to save myself that waiting time.

Thanks for the help, anyone.

Regards

congratulatins liying. all the best on the next steps!

Just got the IELTS result, all 7. Now I have got 60 points! Really excited! Don't need to claim the work experience points. Thank you everyone! Now wish I can get the rest done soon!

hi liying,

just my take on the matter. you may wanna take a closer look at your result. there's actually 2 parts to it, first is your qualification, and then the relevant work experience.

with the qualification, they will tell you that your qualification is of the required level (so if it's phd then you can claim for it)

with the work experience, they will tell you that it was assessed as highly relevant to the nominated occupation and completed at an appropriate skill level (so if they say that 3 out of the 5 years are relevant, then you can claim 3 years of work experience).

just my take.

I have finally got the result letter from Vetassess, and it was positive. However, I still have the question about claiming points for my employment. Would anyone help me to answer this question?

 

My nominated occupation is Forester (234113), and I have worked as a PhD student in Sweden for four years in related subject. The employment is not based on scholarship, I have regular salary. Vetassess has verified the employment and qualification as below,

"The following claims of skilled employment made by the applciant are assessed as employment of at least 40 hours per fortnight which is at an appropriate skill level and closely related to the nominated occupation of Forester".

 

My question is that can I claim 5 points for the employment of PhD student (4 years) and at the same time claim 20 points for the highest obtained qualification (the PhD)? Will the migration board refuse this and ban me through further application?

 

I am really a little worried about it. Hope you could kindly help me answer this?