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On 16/09/2020 at 13:58, Tychen said:

See this page: https://www.gov.uk/register-a-birth You will of course have a local registration, the additional step of registering with the UK authorities is not compulsory before you apply for the British passport.

BTW, the same is not true for an Australian child born outside of Australia. Our first child was born in the UK and we had to apply first to get Australian citizenship for her (we are dual citizens) and then apply for the Australian passport.

YAs Tychen states, you can register with the UK authorities but it is NOT necessary to apply for a passport.  Indeed, the wording here implies your child is already a British citizen - 

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British citizenship is normally automatically passed down one generation to children born outside the UK.

For example, you might automatically become a citizen if you’re born outside the UK to a British parent. 

 

The key word there is automatically.  Having worked with UK border controls, it is an interesting fact that you do not have to have a passport to enter the UK, but is sure makes life a lot easier to prove not only your identity but also your right of abode.   There is a Right of Abode stamp you can have in your overseas passport, but last time I looked it was actually more expensive than a UK passport.

It may be best to discuss this with the teacher accreditation authority for whichever State you're planning to emigrate to.  I take it you're planning to do some kind of post-graduate course in order to gain your teacher QTS in the UK?  Are you then planning to work in the UK for a while to gain experience?  I know many experienced UK teachers start practising over here on a provisional basis, and I have met others from non-English speaking countries who gave up trying to transfer their qualifications over and just took the course over here.

I took my course for Primary teaching in Queensland, a 1 year Graduate Diploma which no longer exists, minimum now is a 2 year Masters.  I understand the prerequisite for most post-grad courses now is that your primary degree is in a core subject area.  Course requirements may differ.

As I said though, check with whichever authority covers the state you want to move to.

As you may be aware, taking an English Language Proficiency Test can improve points, even if you're from an English speaking country.  GermanTeacher, you may also want to investigate the National Accreditation Authority for Translators and Interpreters (NAATI) test, which could give you extra points.  A friend of ours also had to go down the State Sponsored route to get the required number of points.

We only have one child, no family here here in Australia and our parents are getting elderly.  About 5 years ago we opted, in a Will, for some close friends in the UK to look after him, but they'd want to take him back there.  Now he's settled with a wide range of friends, we're going to have to re-examine our options.  It could be friends here, or other relatives in the UK.  It's something we're going to have to reconsider, and soon.

3 hours ago, can1983 said:

Well I do agree the child would never know, my son has seemingly forgotten everything about his first year in the UK, certainly not traumatised

We thought that about our 3 year old (3 years 2 months to be exact).  Were we wrong.  Tooks months for him to settle into kindy, and 3 years before he considered Australia home (after a month long trip to the UK incidentally).

As a physio, my wife's list of eligible people to sign off her documents was very limited as she was applying from overseas (within Australia it's a mile long).  We had to get a notary public in the end, which in the UK is expensive but here in Australia is free!  Had you been in London there are many Aussie teachers working there, but the NE less so.  You could try searching for an Aussie teachers forum in the UK to see if there are any near you.

I'm afraid all I can say is good luck.

Edited to add it's JPs that are free in, in QLD at least - Notary Public's are still expensive!

9 hours ago, RandL said:

Hi,

are these new episodes or the rehash of the 2000- ish ones , could do with a new Aussie fix. 

could never workout the role of the presenter, she always seems to be in a totally different location, never been seen interacting with the family....

 

R

ps: can’t wait to get back to OZ, just waiting for the house to sell :-)

New ones.  Been quite a few series now.

As ABG states, you will need an RRV, full details here https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/visa-1/155-

Essentially there are 2 types of RRV, 155 and 157.  You will not get the full 5 year 155 RRV as you don't meet the residency criteria (2 years in 5 of your PR).  Your best chance is to apply for the 1 year 155 RRV because of your personal ties to Australia through your family.  The 157 visa is 3 months and you meet the residency criteria BUT it is only for travel that is of a "compelling and compassionate' nature - not a job I would suggest!

I'm not in any way a migration advisor so take my advice with a pinch of salt!

1 hour ago, ABG said:

I always look for the Melbourne episodes as that's where we're heading and hope that the show gives some extra recce information.  But I think much of it has to be taken as entertainment rather than something you can gain useful information from

Yes, very much so.  I see today's family who went to Melbourne ended up in Brissie. Sensible lot!

5 hours ago, ssiri said:

I like the show - don’t get it here, I don’t think.

Well, you can get it with certain technical solutions.  We've been watching it here and in some respects it is liking car crash TV.  If you're aware of some of the suburbs you're aware that of course they're getting an incredible house for 150K, because it'll take you an hour plus to commute into the city.  Also there's been a couple of episodes of families going to 'Brisbane', when in fact it's the Gold Coast.  I guess most UK viewers won't be aware of the difference.

Of course, as stated before, there's the continuing wonderment about how some families think they will get visas, especially those with children who are disabled.  I am very much afraid that the Australian Immigration authorities are very careful to ensure that any costs placed on the Australian healthcare system are minimised.

In short, no - https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/visa/char

The pertinent section states (my bold),

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For the Australian Government to determine whether you are of good character, you might be asked to provide police certificates for each country you have lived in for 12 months or more, over the last 10 years (calculated immediately before the time the visa application is lodged), since turning 16 years of age.

On 15/12/2017 at 19:43, Toots said:

No there isn't.  Give it a couple of hundred years or so and maybe each state/region will acquire it's own accent.

There are some truly ugly Australian accents though.  I've found most metropolitan accents a lot softer and less grating, here in QLD at least.

2 hours ago, Eera said:

From what I'm reading, providing you didn't rescind your British citizenship when you took out Australian, you are still a citizen with full right of abode in the UK and you don't need a visa of any sort, is that what you're asking?

If your partner was born in the UK with at least one UK citizen parent, in all likelihood he is a full citizen already as well.  UK immigration has an online checklist called "Am I a UK citizen?" (or something similar) if he's unsure.  Again, unless his citizenship was rescinded, or there are circumstances other than those I'm reading in your post then there's no barriers to you going back to the UK.

Even if you have rescinded it for some reason, by right you can apply for it to be re-instated (one time only - after that it's by application to the Home Secretary).  Many people think that if they let their UK passport lapse, they are no longer citizens.  That is not the case - you just don't have a document which makes it easy for the UK immigration authorities to check your status.  As others have said, it sounds to me like your are both still British citizens.  

As we have seen in recent months in the Australian Parliament, you can be a UK citizen without even realising it.  The days when you had to register a birth with the UK High Commission or Embassy are long gone.

According to this - https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/155- - you can get a 5 year RRV if you have spent a minimum of 2 years in Australia in  the last 5 years.  You can only apply for this once your original PR expires (5 years after issue).  Now, if you stay until early 2018 (to make up for the fact you have spent time out of the country already) you may be technically eligible under CURRENT rules.  Rules change though, and you'll be applying from outside Australia under your current plans.  The website states you must be a permanent resident at the time you apply for your RRV.  Whether that means you hold a PR visa or are actually resident in Australia someone else may be able to answer.

• is an alternative option for some permanent visa holders who do not have, or cannot use or obtain, a passport and are unable to use the VEVO system.

So for most people not required.  While the "Permanent Residence Evidence ImmiCard" is no longer issued, you can get an "Evidence of Immigration Status ImmiCard" should you need one!

I am a relief teacher here in Brisbane, though I trained here so I'm in a rather different boat than you are, and can't give you any advice on that. There are many primary schools with SPE departments that would welcome your experience (by secondary many of these student go into Special Schools) but beware, NSW are the only state in Australia that has no reciprocal agreement with other states to allow teachers to easily register.

Relief teaching, for a class teacher in primary anyway, tends to be rather quiet this time of year but goes manic in Terms 2, 3 and to some extent 4.

Remember the school year matches the calendar year here so if she is year 6, as Loopylu says, she will only have a few months. Term 3 ends on 15 September and Term 4 is 3 October to 8 December. She would then enter High School on 22 january 2018.

I've got the episodes recorded and watching in incorrect order but it amazes me, having gone through the process, how many people simply would not be eligible for a visa yet get onto the show.

Oh gosh yes, but they're making entertainment, not acting as agents. As long as people are aware of that and don;'t get their hopes up I guess it's OK but my concern is that there are some on the show and watching it who may get 'led along'. I also wonder if some people could even afford the process, given how costly visas are these days.

It should be, but it is not. You should make every effort to comply with the published criteria.

Yep. the Australian Passport Office is really anal about this and is quite likely to call the person certifying the photograph. We got our Australian passports 6 months after we arrived so we had a bit of a problem finding someone who'd known us before arriving!

Edited as you're asking a different question!

TRA skilled assessment - who are you doing it with? My wife had to get it all done via a Notary Public for Physiotherapy - it would have been £400 but she reduced it to £250 as she thought the whole process was so ridiculous (in Australia virtually anybody could do it). She didn't have as many docs as you though.

Anywhere that is easily commutable to London will attract a price premium. Your best bet is to look at the train lines and how quickly they'll get you into the centre. Where your husband has his job will determine which line will suit you best, so if he's working near Paddington it would be good to live to the West of London so he could use that line and walk to work. Similarly, near Kings Cross, look to the north, Victoria, to the south or south east. I used to work a 10 minute walk from Waterloo and now I would choose somewhere like Southampton or Eastleigh which is only an hour an an express train. Doing this can minimise your use of the Underground and consequent extra time and cost.

If you want to live in the London metropolitan area itself, consider which tube lines will get your husband to work most expeditiously, then consider which areas along that line will suit your budget and school requirements.

I knew someone who basically mapped out travel times and average house cost to chose an area!

qantas charge $90 to setup a FF membership its crazy

We set ours up while we were int he UK. At the time they didn't charge for overseas memberships and when we transferred it to Australia nothing was said.

Why not bring everything. The only stuff we left were the lawnmower (too much trouble cleaning it and it would have been impractical here anyway. Garden furniture - too old and tatty and also worried about it getting in. The fridge/freezer as it was 10 years old. Tumble dryer - only because I had built it in to a cupboard and it was easier to leave it for the new owners. In 18 months I would have used a tumble dryer once only anyway where we live as we dry clothes outside all year.

The lawn mower is something I really wish we had brought. We had a really decent self-propelled Honda in the UK and mowers are expensive here. We sold it as many people have said it isn't worth the effort cleaning it to the standard required, but a colleague of my wife came over a couple of years ago and only got charged $160 for irradiation.

Our tumble dryer was on its last legs so we sold it but we bought one as its needed in southern Queensland during the winter! Second what you say about the garden furniture though - much better and cheaper here (same with the barbecues).

We bought an older dishwasher over and that lasted precisely one load.

As a bloke, work shoes and trousers are a lot more expensive so make sure you bring those.

Just a little damper on that. I used to work in IT (Software Developer) but chose another career path over here (teaching) as the fun had gone! I've spoke with a couple of IT professionals who've come over and found that unless it's an Aussie qualification companies aren't interested. One was PRINCE qualified and had extensive experience but couldn't get any role in IT. I was also told that back in 2013 in Brisbane there were 5000 more IT professionals than there were available positions. Be careful and consider doing an Aussie course.

It's a while since I've been on this site but saw this post and felt that I would offer my two penneth.....my Australian husband and I along with our 3 kids moved to oz because we were desperate to be with the family that we all missed very much (none in the uk), it didn't take us too long to realise that we missed the uk dreadfully and even the love of our Australian family couldn't make up for us wanting to be elsewhere. We moved back to the uk and haven't regretted it one bit. My point is if you love Australia as much as you seem to do I wonder if moving back for family is enough. Good luck to you, it's such a hard call.

Ooh, interesting post. So often it's the family ties which take people back but in your case it's the reverse.