ozglenn

 

 

Yes work is work and it's all the same and i can vouch for that after working in different lands and cultures. Getting employed is the most important aspect of life in any land lets face it and for most of us that is the crux.

Im aware the sun does not always shine in Oz and a little rain does everyone good, however the weather in the UK can be depressing especially when it seems to rain for weeks on end.

 

after living in London for 2 years I would never want to live in a big city again Sydney its too big and busy and expensive although its nice for a visit.

 

A&E nurses work hard everywhere i don't think Ozzie nurses work any harder. It could be argued that nurses who are working in poorly run NHS hospitals with ridiculous staffing pressures and are being paid 12 pound an hour have a harder time.

 

I dont like the attitudes of the young today, the way they act and dress (I'm only 26) I have nephews in the UK and OZ and there is a huge difference in their nature this may have something to do with the age children change to secondary school or the fact they are into their outdoor activities rather than xbox and ipads. Yes it could also be argued that the parenting is a massive influence but both my sisters are very similar.

 

Oz is years behind the UK in many ways and it will take adjusting but thats what I like. Im sure it will eventually catch up. I heard Brisbane has an H&M now

 

 

Maybe I'm just an old women at heart.

Oz is not really behind these days it's just a different culture as it's a new country. I also have nieces in OZ and they are no different than UK kids. Plenty of Brit kids go do sports and hobbies hence why England did so well in the Olympics.

If you don't want any grey days then my advice is to go to qld or Darwin not down south. I was back in England last summer and the weather was great and this winter has not been bad has it?

I'm surprised that registered nurses would be on wages in the UK, would have thought they would be salaried and on shift allowances. On another thread i remember somebody mentioned registered nurses were on 35k in the UK.

I am moving because of a few things.

 

1- I've always wanted to live abroad especially Australia

2- I have family in Australia

 

good enough reasons

 

3- The weather and therefore lifestyle is the big bonus

Depends on where you live in Oz sydney of late is dire on weather and lifestyle

 

4- I can earn way more as a nurse in oz than the UK plus the hospitals and work environment is better

Perhaps but an A&E nurse works hard here and the extra salary is paid for a reason eg housing and general expenses

 

5- Poor immigration in the UK which leads to people screwing our services -

 

I agree with you there but Australia is also becoming inundated with all and sundry.

 

6- The UK has nothing but trouble to come. I do not want to bring up any future child in such an environment.

Have you considered regional uk though like the SW?

 

7- Europe as beautiful as it is - its too close to danger

 

8- The british have become push overs -ozzies say it how it is and the honesty is a breath of fresh air!

 

Until OZ gets another ten years of Labor. All people are at the behest of big corps and the UN puppet masters and OZ is no different.

 

9- Did i mention the sun will be shining!!

Have you been to Melbourne or Sydney in June?

Best wishes with your plans.:smile:

If we accept English summer temperatures as a definition of summer then summer in Adelaide is about nine months long.

LOL...i live in Adelaide and this past year has seen a very average summer and a cold start to Autumn. What you get in the uk is a more enjoyable summer without the extremities and lovely long summer days. Tonight we have the gas heating on in the hills.:huh:

OH currently earns 5 times his previous salary.

May i ask what your OH does as i have never met any Brit that has arrived in OZ and earns 5 times the salary that they earned back in the Uk.

Lack of research from prospective migrants. When the idiotic 'Living the dream' has taken hold of your senses nothing else gets through.

I guess for some it takes just one aspect of change to make them feel that they are 'living the dream' which should be stated more like 'Living my dream' or 'living our dream' because what is 'Living THE dream' ?

After my recent trip back to England i did speak to many folks who are more wise to the pros and cons of Australia and many seemed enlightened and knowledgeable when it comes to a life down under.

 

Ageing does make it harder to bare extremes of temperature and the summers are getting hotter. Rising energy costs also hurt as you get older too.

AC is nice but one still has to go to work, go shopping, go and do the horse etc. For poms that don't like the heat why on Earth do they move to Australia??

AC is a necessity especially for older folks. Poms other migrants and born and bred Aussies all suffer and all hate it when we get those 40 plus heatwaves. This is commonly omitted from the glossy sales mags and from those Australia house expos. If you have an job where you have climate control it's all good but many don't. We run reverse cycle AC for heating and cooling here in Adelaide for 9 months of the year and it costs a lot. This is something that working class migrants should consider as a reality.

It isn't of course but a pom like you I guess it is. Everybody else gets on just fine with everyday life.

Until it gets to over 40-45 for two weeks straight like it is doing more often in southern and eastern Oz come summer. Last summer here in Adelaide was the hottest i have felt in 30 years. The power bills come in very high as AC is a must especially as one ages.

There is a lot of building going on in Australia right now, but you still need permits for subdivision. It's true there is more building going on but a lot of the outer suburbs are pretty much unaffected.

A lot of old homes in the outer suburbs are being detonated and the 800 sqm blocks are being halved. I think within 20 years it will be hard to find home with a large block as many will be either very expensive and desired or would have given way to subdivision. It all depend son how much the economy grows of course and that's a hot issue in Oz right now.

It was that about 15 years ago, but like Australia has increased by about 5 million in the last 5 years or so. Unlike Australia, the UK does not have room to grow. You certainly feel squashed living downunder.

The thing is oz doesn't have room to grow either hence the smaller sub divisions now and homes built not unlike English estates. I just got back from a visit to the Midlands and the new two story estates remind me of some new Oz suburban and city developments. I just found the road traffic to have increased dramatically in ten years. The towns didn't seem much busier and in the countryside and small towns it seemed much as i remember.

That's the same the world over , if the uk was that bad 70 million people wouldn't live there

I thought the pop was 58 mill?

Going back is wonderful for some but unsettling for others, particularly those who realize that they liked OZ after all. And going back to 'live' is not the same as going for a holiday when everything seems so pleasant and free from cares.

I found that the roads network had changed and without my sat nav i would have been lost at times but then again i had not returned in 12 years until last month for a visit. Once i became familiar it was not a problem. Everywhere is getting busier on the roads whether in the UK or OZ. When your on holiday anywhere it seems all great because you have money and a good exchange rate helps. The people i find that moan are generally those on minimum wages here or in Britain. Somehow they think a move will give them a better middle class life doing much the same without getting better work skills. I told people in the Uk to get a good education if they are considering immigrating to OZ otherwise they will live a crappy poor life here miles from the beach in mixed up area. The people living in nice detached homes in nice towns, have great hols and friends are go getters here and in Britain. I have family and friends in Britain that plod along and others that live down south near coast with a unit in Spain and earn 6 figure household incomes. Food, clothes and a session at the pub costs much more in Oz i tell them so that they know the full story.

To me it's just like a big country town and yes in a time warp, everybody knows everybody, and miles away from anywhere! Will admit I hated it to start with because of all that but have mellowed over the years and developed a bit of affection for it now. I reckon it's a not such a bad place to live when you have a young family but my kids are growing up now and want a bit more excitement and to be somewhere a bit different and to be honest .......so do I!

 

Maybe you should try Melbourne?

I do like Melbourne but it same story if you live in the burbs over there. I guess Victoria has more towns to visit than SA does with easy reach of Melbourne. The dilemna i would face is a move to Melbourne would mean more housing costs and not much more pay in my job.

no Stacey yam yams are from the black country ( Wolverhampton - Dudley - west brom ) ...instead of you cant its " yam cor do that " ....friendliest people in the country ...but the accent very different to a brummie

My mum is from Bilston and they are great friendly people in the black country. So true in sayin that the accent is differnet from Brum even though very close by.

Are you dual nationality or here on a visa? If you are on a visa I recommend you check with Australian Immigration how this would be affected by you not having a valid passport.

Yes i'm a dual citizen and i have just returned from a holiday back in the uk. My British passport had expired so i entered the Uk on my Aussie passport this time. I got the third degree as i entered though immigration, asked why i was visiting, intention to work or not etc. My passport clearly states that i was born in the uk and i also carried my expired passport, national insurance card and a copy of my birth certificate as i was considering renewing my British passport if time permitted. I made it very clear to the officer that i was looking to renew my passport and she said that was a good idea to save money but the time delay may be an issue. What made me angry was that i'm pretty sure that my status and history was right in front of her on the screen yet i was treated like a foreigner. TBH i legally had right to enter stay and work regardless even though i entered on an Aussie passport. I was ready for a fight if i was goin to get any more hassles. I wonder if anyone else has also been given the third degree.

I think it's more of an issue about the time you spend back in the uk not so much the passport. You would need to satisfy the government that you are back and resident again which can mean a lengthy stay.

I reckon you should go back with a view to have a feel to see how you like it again long term. If you have your citizenship you can always return if you desire or need to. If you have family and friends in the UK it makes it much easier to settle back in. Living in a nice place and an ability to travel to the continent can make all the difference.

I just went back after 12 years away and i must say apart from the traffic i really enjoyed it. I usually settle back into Adelaide again very quickly after previous trips but i have found it very different on return this time. I feel it seems very quiet and isolated and almost like a time warp. Maybe i need to move to the east coast or something or into Adelaide city. I certainly am missing the pubs and affordable eateries.

I just go back for England a couple of weeks ago and it was lovely when we got back but we wished we had stuck it out for a bit longer as the weather has been good this summer.