Ozmaniac

Hello,

 

Just to set the scene...

I am a Secondary school teacher working in the UK. I have 10 years of teaching experience, a BSC degree, a PGCE and management experience. I am married to an Australian National and we have three children. We are looking to migrate to Australia within the next six to nine months.

 

Initially I thought that the spouse Visa would be the most suitable, however, after contacting the immigration offices it appears that they are currently taking 10-14 months to process, which is simply too long.

 

So I am now looking into the skilled independent working Visa (189). I am aware that before I can submit the EOI, or complete the Skillselect form, I need to obtain a 'Suitable Skills Assessment' for teaching. So I started to fill out the AITSL form for Secondary school teachers. I can get certified copies of all of the documents they require but I am slightly stumped by the 'Supervised teaching practice' document. This document was not one which was provided by my PGCE course and it seems counter-intuitive to ask for proof of 45 days in-class teaching when I could get my current principal to certify the 10 years worth of teaching!? It seems very strange to me that the form doesn't even ask for current employment status or actual teaching experience. Am I even filling out the correct Visa?

 

Any help or assistance would be greatly appreciated,

Tom

As others have told you, the 45 days of supervised teaching practice needs to have been during your PGCE and no amount of work experience after that can be substituted.

Are you aware that if you come to Australia on a Visitor visa, you can lodge a Partner visa application onshore and will be granted a Bridging visa that will allow you to stay in Australia (with unrestricted work rights) until a decision is reached on your application? Processing time for onshore Partner visas is currently 12-15 months but given that you can work without restrictions while you wait, that's shouldn't be too much of a problem. The BV won't take effect until your Visitor visa expires but that will only be 3 months if you get an eVisitor. Currently, onshore Partner visas are considerably more expensive than offshore ($6865 vs $4630) but from 1 July, the offshore will rise to be the same as onshore.

If you go the onshore Partner visa route, you won't need AITSL skills assessment and will only need to meet the registration requirements of the state in which you want to teach. I understand that some state requirements are easier to meet than those of AITSL. If your intended state is one of the 'easier' ones, that could be the way to go if you don't have the 45 days.

you will be granted bridging visa with your application - no need to leave australia??

@Arry has stated that it's an offshore application so no Bridging visa would have been granted.

Sorry, can't tell you any more than the info in the link I included in my post. Did you read that? It has much more than the small section I posted.

Why did my status change to "Application received"? I saw some people get that as well

It doesn't really mean anything.

A number of enhancements were introduced to ImmiAccount on 17 April 2015.

[h=2]General enhancements

[/h] The following general enhancements were introduced.

[h=3]New application statuses[/h] The status of In Progress has been retired and three new statuses introduced.

• Application Received – indicating your application has been successfully submitted and will be assessed within advertised application processing timeframes.

• Information Requested – indicating an immigration officer has assessed the application and found that more information is required, so they have requested that you provide further evidence in support of the application.

• Assessment in Progress – You have provided all the requested information. We might proceed to make a decision on your application. We could also ask you for further information. In this case, the status will return to Information requested.

http://www.immi.gov.au/gateways/agents/resources/immiaccount-enhancements/

Provided your new partner can meet the requirements to be considered as your de facto partner (i.e. if they meet the One-year Relationship requirement or are eligible for an exemption from it), you can sponsor them for a Partner visa even if you are still married to someone else. If however you also sponsored your previous partner for a Partner visa, you may not be eligible to be a sponsor if the previous sponsorship was less than 5 years ago.

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/35relationship.htm One-Year Relationship Requirement for De Facto Partners

http://www.immi.gov.au/forms/Documents/1127.pdf Partner Migration booklet. See page 16 'Limitations on sponsorship. If you have previously sponsored a partner or been sponsored as a partner'

Sorry quick question, for the Australian police check, did you go for the normal one or the one with the fingerprints?

 

Thanks

Fingerprints are not required for AFP National Police Checks.

http://www.immi.gov.au/Help/Pages/character-police/requirements.aspx

Hi guys has anyone knows what will happen if one of the secondary applicant of pr visa has been refused? Does it means that all of them will get refused aswell?

It depends on why they were refused.

If they were not eligible to be included (e.g. didn't meet the requirements to be eligible to be included as a partner), they are simply removed from the application and the rest of the processing proceeds.

If they are eligible to be included but fail the medical or character requirements, all applicants will be refused.

Thanks ozmaniac! That's good news for me. I assume that we don't have to stay in one place, as long as it's a regional area?

Any eligible regional area is OK under the conditions currently attached to 489s. It's probably only a matter of time until holders are restricted to regional areas in the sponsoring state but that hasn't happened yet.

You can have your medical in Australia if you wish. There is no requirement for a 187 to be granted offshore but if you will be travelling to Australia during processing, you should make sure your CO can contact you reliably and knows your travel dates so that the visa can be validated correctly if it is granted while you are here.

Hii i am new to this forum... can anyone tell me abt immigration processing pattern.. is it on month basis or person whos occupation on skill list is processed first.

Each subclass of visa is processed separately by different Case Officers/teams. The following lists the processing time standards for each visa subclass but be aware that times are only the standards they try to achieve and are not in any way guaranteed.

http://www.immi.gov.au/about/charters/client-services-charter/visas/8.0.htm

Do you have to pay the $3500 up front then? And if it is not approved you will get the money back?

 

Many Thanks for your advice.

You do not get a refund if your application is refused OR if you withdraw your application. Once you pay the Visa Application Charge to DIBP, that's the end of it.

Only the ACT and WA have a public holiday today. Parramatta is in NSW.

Ah right i see, I know what you mean about being restricted to one employer but to go over on the 489 visa you have to work within your occupation for two years. I love my job so will only want to do hairdressing when I'm over there anyway, and hoping that having a four year visa I will able to find a job ok.

Sounds like you both had an amazing time though. But that is crazy you met your partner over there and he is from your home town. I met people on the cruise liners from where I live was mad, a client emigrated to oz 40 years ago recognised my accent and ended up she use to live a few miles from me.

 

 

Super excited to go now 23 weeks and counting. Feels like forever!!!

You'll be fine on a 489, with a whv you can only work for each employer for 6 months during a 12 month period which is why most weren't willing to take a backpacker on, which I can understand from their point of view! I thought with a 489 that your only had to work full time in your profession for 12 months and live in the regional for 2 years? It doesn't matter if I had to work as a hairdresser for a few years, the money is good and I enjoy the job to an extent just don't want to do it forever!

its crazy isn't it! I knew I was going over and meeting up with him at some point as I went over with his sister and group of friends, just never thought I would end up moving over there to be with him haha!

id always wanted to work on cruise liners as a hairdresser!! Did you enjoy it?

23 weeks! That's so exciting, bet you can't wait!

The highlighted parts are not how it works. On a 489, you can only live and work in an eligible regional area but it can be in any occupation. When it comes to applying for an 887 permanent visa, you must have lived in an eligible regional area for 2 years and worked full time (or part time in more than one job for the equivalent of full time) but again, the work can be in any occupation.

Sorry guys.

Now i ask my question i want to invite my parents to australia. I know I have to pay immi fees for both of them but now do I need to or have to lodge two applications for each person since ther are husband wife. The reason why I'm asking is my agent telling me that do need to lodge two applications. So Im wondering weather he's telling me true story or want to rip me off. All replies be appriciated. Good week end to Aussies and those ones are to be Aussies yaaaayyyyyy.

If by 'invite them to Australia', you mean to invite them to visit you temporarily on a subclass 600 visa, they will each need a separate visa application.

http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/600.aspx 600 Visitor visa

If you're talking about sponsoring them for Parent visas to live permanently in Australia, both parents are included on the same application; one as the primary applicant and the other as a secondary applicant.

Personal statements from friends and family need to be witnessed but no documents need to be certified if you will be uploading colour scans of originals.

You should also note the following which was sent to a Partner visa applicant by their CO:

How Should I Put My Application Together?

Please do not make complex collations of your application papers. We waste a lot of time (and risk injury to life and limb) deconstructing applications which have been extensively stapled or artfully put together in complex folders with indexes, dividers and tabs. Do not use plastic inserts. Please leave the papers, loosely divided by slide-on paper clips if you feel it is absolutely necessary, in a simple stack. Application form on the top; sponsorship form next; key personal documents next (birth and marriage certificates etc); formal statutory declarations next; and other supporting documents last.

Please do not send us video tapes or photograph albums. If you would like to support your claims with photographs, please choose a representative selection and make a photocopy.

Please do not send us phone cards at all as they can tell us nothing. If you wish to send examples of correspondence, please be very selective and send copies only.

Only stat decs need to be witnessed and certified, evidence such as passports etc do not need to be, if you upload a colour scan online

That's absolutely correct. If you upload colour scans of original documents, they do not need to be certified. DIBP will definitely accept them.

Only one disadvantage with 186 is 2 yrs. employment commitment.

A 186 does not have a visa condition requiring a 2 year employment commitment. A 187 RSMS has such a condition but not a 186 ENS.

Hi all

 

I would really appreciate your help. My boyfriend is an Australian citizen and I am currently living in England. I am looking to apply for the Prospective Marriage visa (subclass 300). Can anyone tell me how long the processing times are? My other option is to apply for a skilled independent work visa but I think this will take much longer. I welcome any advice!

The time taken for skills assessment for a skilled Independent 189 visa is variable depending on your occupation but the visa itself usually takes only about 3 months from when you lodge the visa application. If you have an occupation on the SOL and are eligible to apply for a 189 visa, you would probably have that visa well before a Prospective Marriage visa and it will be permanent from day 1. If you go for a PMV, it will take you around 3 years from when you apply to get PR.

Nobody can add anything useful to what your Agent has told you. Her advice is realistic and any other answer would be no more than an uninformed guess. You will just have to be patient and hope for a successful outcome.

Hi,

I am Australian, Husband is English)

Is there anyone who while waiting for the partner visa, has decided to go out to oz on a tourist visa while waiting for visa approval? the 10-15month wait is soo long-it feels like a lifetime away!! Obviously I will only be able to work being Australian.

I read that usually you can just let your CO know and then have to leave australia for a few days once approved. Also where would be cheapest to travel to that's closest? new zeland?

 

Also I was wondering if the time spent in Australia (while waiting for the visa) would be counted towards the years required for citizenship in future?

Many people come on Visitor visas while their Partner visa applications are being processed.

Make sure you CO knows you're onshore and can contact you reliably and they send you a pre-grant notification so you can get offshore for the grant to take place.

Most people go the NZ but Bali is another cheap destination.

The time you spend in Australia waiting for your visa can be included in the 4 years residence requirement for citizenship provided you meet the other residence requirements i.e. outside Australia for no longer than 12 months in total in the 4 years immediately before applying including no more than 90 days in the last year.

Co requested us for more documents... medical examination to all of my family members which is outside Australia, its weird because they'are actually not applying for Pr just my brother but CO still requested for all of our medical? ~.~

Medicals are required for family members who were included on your visa application under 'Non-migrating dependents'. If they are not dependents but are simply family members, you should submit a Notification of Incorrect Answers Form 1023 and medicals will no longer be needed.

http://www.immi.gov.au/forms/Documents/1023.pdf Form 1023

Hii

i am reading this forum long time

why your file takes long time? Which country you from and is your employer sponsor too many peoples?

i hope you get PR very soon. My best whishies are with you.

i am also going eligible for PR in Augest after 3.5 years on 457 visa. But change job due to work close. Is anybody have any idea about new 457 policy when its impliment reg. 1 year condition with current employer.

regards

If you change employers on a 457, you must work for the new 457 sponsor for 2 years before you can apply for a permanent visa. If the original company is bought out or taken over and the new company takes over your 457, you only need to work for them for 1 year before you can apply for PR but that is the only circumstance where only 1 year with the new employer is required. In all other cases, it is still 2 years.

Thanks for the info the list must of changed. I had an assessment from a migration agent last may and I was told I qualify for a skilled visa 489 to sa or qld as a hairdresser. But if I went to qld I needed $30,000 in assets. Do you know if this is still the case. I don't mind where in oz I go.

Vicki I still haven't got a date from vetassess though I would have by now. Did you sit yours yet ?

Queensland's financial requirements are much lower if you apply onshore so if you're eligible for a Working Holiday visa, you could come on that and apply while you're here.

http://migration.qld.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/pdf/Settlement-Funds_skilled.pdf Queensland Settlement Funds requirements

Here's a link to the Queensland migration site - everything you need to know about QLD state sponsorship is somewhere in there. You'll need a job offer in regional Queensland OR 5 years experience. A job offer shouldn't be too hard to find - hairdressers are in short supply here and Queensland's regional areas include some of the most beautiful and interesting parts of Australia.

http://migration.qld.gov.au/skilled-migration-visas/

A 'closely related occupation' is generally one in the same ANZSCO unit group i.e. one with an ANZSCO code beginning with the same 4 digits but Child Care Centre Manager is the only occupation in the 1341 unit group.

Congratulations!