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When I was in the UK I often wondered why people that spent so many hours on PIO waiting for their visa would just disappear after a short time of living in Australia. In all honesty I thought they were bloody rude. They, like everyone else loved reading recci reports and needed to know if what they were doing was right and was Australia as good as people said etc, etc, etc and here was their chance to give back to the next generation of PIO users...... And there was nothing........ Just the same few that loved their new life banging the drum trying to help others.

Well I can tell you I wasn’t going to be one of those people........ Seems I’ve ended up doing the same thing......:embarrassed: How rude, so a big SORRY to those like me, that still come on but don’t post!!!

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I guess the main reason is, I love my new life, all those things I wanted to change about myself, I can. I don’t need other people telling me I wear rose tinted glasses because I love Australia warts and all. In all honesty rose tinted glasses are great; if you don’t have a pair get them. To see the glass half full rather than half empty is a great way to live your life, no matter where you call home!

I’ve met loads of POM’s in Australia..... Seems they are everywhere...... spooky..... It seems most know about PIO, most have been on PIO and most leave PIO for the same reason! They don’t need the grief off others, they love their new life and don’t feel the need to justify themselves, it’s easier to leave PIO and get on with their new life.

Now don’t get me wrong, in no way am I saying anything bad about PIO, PIO is a great place for support, to find friends and has as much info as anyone could need about life in Oz etc. Rob and Kate do a great job in running the site and deserve a big thank you.:notworthy::wubclub: I’m trying to explain (badly I’m guessing) why not as many positive people stay on PIO. I’m sure there are many other reasons why, but from what I’ve heard that seems to be the biggest reason.

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For now, this will be one of my last posts on PIO, life is really good and trying to find time to post on PIO is bloody hard..... Not enough hours in the day! So I’ll try and fit all my thoughts on 1 post.... Hence Ramblings from an Aussie..... :wacko:

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People ask loads of advice on where to live in Australia, and most seem to only think of the new things they want. If you want life to work in Australia, you need to look at all of the things you love about the place you live, the life you live, what is it that makes you tick?

Write them down, no matter how small, write down your life for a week even a month, then highlight the bits you enjoy and the bits you don’t! If you go to the pub every night on the way home for a pint and to wind down before going home, chances are you’ll need that in Australia. How many times did you go to the art gallery? Will you need to live near that type of entertainment, do you catch public transport or do you drive to work, and how long does it take? Do you enjoy that part of your life?

Moving to Australia gives you a chance to re start your life but don’t wipe away those things you enjoy otherwise you will miss it, and that could affect whether you stay or go! Look at states that have the things you love as well as the things you would like. Put the things you already do above those you would like to do...

To ship or not to ship?

Bring everything, and I mean everything, bring clothes hangers, clothes pegs, that old sofa that only has 6 months left before it falls apart. EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!

WHY you may ask? Not because things are more expensive, but it saves you the stress of trying to find and buy things. When you arrive you have your whole life to sort out, a house, a car, schools, jobs, Medicare etc, etc, etc..... Do you really want the stress of trying to find your dream sofa?

Most people rent first so why buy your dream sofa to fit a house that you don’t own? It takes time to find where to shop to get those bargains, give you that time.

When you are ready to buy, haggle, don’t be afraid to ask is that the best price! Even then, walk away and look somewhere else, and if that’s the one you want after that, go back and tell them you want it cheaper..... They expect it, and the worst they can say is, sorry that’s our best price! You can even haggle at the op shop! (Charity shops)

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Try and keep a few thousand in the bank for a trip back to the UK if needed. Sometimes the thought of being able to go back is enough to make you want to stay.... Work that one out? Where if you don’t have the money you can feel trapped.... And that could make you want to leave!

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When looking at an area to rent take a check list with you, sounds silly I know. Have 2 lists, things that you need out of the area and things that you need out of a house. It amazes me how many people whinge that they aren’t close to public transport, parks, shops, schools, pubs etc. Go into a real estate agent and tell them the things you need and let them help you find the right house that suits ALL of your needs.

When you find the house that suits your needs, haggle about the price, if there are plenty of rentals you should get a reduction, or if it doesn’t have a dish washer, air conditioner tell them you want one (if that’s what you’d like) The worst they can say is sorry the answer is no!

Once you get a house, go through it with a fine tooth comb, write down every mark, every cob web and every weed, then sign it and get the real estate agent to sign it and copy it for their file and yours. That way when you’re ready to leave you have come back! It’s amazing how many people get stung because a pre existing mark wasn’t written on the check list!

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Making friends!

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It can be bloody hard, if you need friends you’ll have to make the effort. Think back to your old life, how often did you make new friends and include them in your group? PIO is a great way to meet like minded people, but then you get stuck with just ex pats.... Make the effort and join in groups that you have an interest in. It will happen in time.

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Getting out and about, if you live in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane buy a Melways, Sydways, Brisways. (Unsure about the other states) For those that don’t know they are a map book. Take a look at the back part of the book; they have loads of info on sports clubs, picnic grounds etc and then the map to get you there LOL.....

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I guess everything I’ve written is simple advice, but it seems that some get caught up in living the dream rather than living their life. Don’t worry about the price of a lemon, that will work itself out. Work out what you need and what you’d like and if things don’t work out don’t go home upset because life didn’t work out the way you wanted, don’t go home with bad thoughts about Australia, go home with the knowledge that you have figured out what is important to you and your family. People can go their whole life not knowing that, people can go their whole life wondering what if? At least you gave it a go, yes it may have cost thousands, yes you may have to start again, but that gives you a chance to do things differently, enjoy that fact!

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Good luck to everyone in Australia loving their new life, good luck to those returning back home, good luck to everyone who is starting their journey. Never give up on your dreams. To those stuck in Australia treading water, I hope that something goes your way and you get to return home.

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All the best and take care.

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Geoffrey

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Geoffrey (32, an aussie!!), Tracy (35), Jake (7), Jessica (2) & Joseph (1) :jiggy:

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I’ve met loads of POM’s in Australia..... Seems they are everywhere...... spooky..... It seems most know about PIO, most have been on PIO and most leave PIO for the same reason! They don’t need the grief off others, they love their new life and don’t feel the need to justify themselves, it’s easier to leave PIO and get on with their new life.

 

G'day mate!

Wow! is that what they said? Or did they just say they didn't need it any more


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I’ve met loads of POM’s in Australia..... Seems they are everywhere...... spooky..... It seems most know about PIO, most have been on PIO and most leave PIO for the same reason! They don’t need the grief off others, they love their new life and don’t feel the need to justify themselves, it’s easier to leave PIO and get on with their new life.

 

Interesting post Geoffrey and some great advice for newcomers there. Like Harpo I'm a bit surprised by the bit of your post that I've highlighted. I was a long-time reader of PIO before joining and one of the things I first noticed when I started reading the forums, particularly MBTTUK, was how much grief some of the unhappier posters copped. Some poor bugger would pour his/her heart out about how things hadn't worked out for them and they'd either patronisingly be told that they hadn't given it long enough, tried hard enough or that they needed to move interstate in order to make Aus work out. I know no one likes a Whinging Pom but some of the stick that was dished out to people who were obviously doing it tough was eye-watering. It was like the Spanish Inquisition at times!.

 

As a reader I never got the impression that people who were going well here felt that they had to justify themselves, probably because they were in the majority.

 

For what it's worth I do think the forums are better balanced now than they were back then and that posters can speak their minds a lot more without fear of being ridiculed or bullied.

 

Won't you reconsider your decision to retire?!

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thanks for the thread geoffrey,and have a wunderfull,and healthy life--pass my regards on to the family:wubclub:

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great thresd geoff ....and i think it just about sums it up ....hope everything goes well for u and ur family and im sure u will pop in from time to time :hug:

 

mrs keily


LIFE IS A COIN , YOU CAN SPEND IT ON WHATEVER YOU WISH , BUT ... YOU CAN ONLY SPEND IT ONCE

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Great thread Geoff glad your enjoying life, I think PIO is a means to an end for some people whilst others enjoy there time on here during the migration process and hang around once they start there new life to either pass on help to others or just for the banter that goes on in CTF. Others sadly return to make use of the MBTTUK part of the forum and seek or pass on advice when things don't work out...............in all PIO is a great place. Not sure if I'll hang around when the time comes but I'd like to think so.

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Good to see your name on the forum again Geoff and glad all is going good for you back in your homeland.

Cal x


If you don't go after what you want, you'll never have it. If you don't ask, the answer is always no. If you don't step forward, you're always in the same place...

If you get a chance,take it, If it changes your life,let it. Nobody said it would be easy they just said it would be worth it...

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Geoff, So happy to see life is working so damn well for you! You went through hell and back to get where you are and deserve all the happiness you can get!

 

Good Luck in all your ventures, please do pop on from time to time and "add to the ramblings"

 

Joanne x

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Good post Geoff, glad you are happy and everything is working out for your family.

cheers

Olly

p.s. greetings and a big wave from the other side of town:tongue:


If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.”

John Quincy Adams

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Great post but you can forget going anywhere, remember I know where you live now :hug:


If you are depressed you are living in the past. If you are anxious you are living in the future. If you are at peace you are living in the present.

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When I was in the UK I often wondered why people that spent so many hours on PIO waiting for their visa would just disappear after a short time of living in Australia. In all honesty I thought they were bloody rude.

Geoffrey

 

 

 

Hahahahahaha, and that's not something you would ever do eh Geoffrey LoL

 

Glad you having such a swell time that you don't have the time to visit anymore.

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Hope you've managed to behave yourself over there!


When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace ~ Jimi Hendrix

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Miss you big guy, hope life's treating you and yours well buddy.

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As this thread is from 2009 I doubt very much that Geoff is going to be seeing it.


Petals

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When I was in the UK I often wondered why people that spent so many hours on PIO waiting for their visa would just disappear after a short time of living in Australia. In all honesty I thought they were bloody rude. They, like everyone else loved reading recci reports and needed to know if what they were doing was right and was Australia as good as people said etc, etc, etc and here was their chance to give back to the next generation of PIO users...... And there was nothing........ Just the same few that loved their new life banging the drum trying to help others.

Well I can tell you I wasn’t going to be one of those people........ Seems I’ve ended up doing the same thing......:embarrassed: How rude, so a big SORRY to those like me, that still come on but don’t post!!!

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I guess the main reason is, I love my new life, all those things I wanted to change about myself, I can. I don’t need other people telling me I wear rose tinted glasses because I love Australia warts and all. In all honesty rose tinted glasses are great; if you don’t have a pair get them. To see the glass half full rather than half empty is a great way to live your life, no matter where you call home!

I’ve met loads of POM’s in Australia..... Seems they are everywhere...... spooky..... It seems most know about PIO, most have been on PIO and most leave PIO for the same reason! They don’t need the grief off others, they love their new life and don’t feel the need to justify themselves, it’s easier to leave PIO and get on with their new life.

Now don’t get me wrong, in no way am I saying anything bad about PIO, PIO is a great place for support, to find friends and has as much info as anyone could need about life in Oz etc. Rob and Kate do a great job in running the site and deserve a big thank you.:notworthy::wubclub: I’m trying to explain (badly I’m guessing) why not as many positive people stay on PIO. I’m sure there are many other reasons why, but from what I’ve heard that seems to be the biggest reason.

<o:p></o:p>

For now, this will be one of my last posts on PIO, life is really good and trying to find time to post on PIO is bloody hard..... Not enough hours in the day! So I’ll try and fit all my thoughts on 1 post.... Hence Ramblings from an Aussie..... :wacko:

<o:p></o:p>

People ask loads of advice on where to live in Australia, and most seem to only think of the new things they want. If you want life to work in Australia, you need to look at all of the things you love about the place you live, the life you live, what is it that makes you tick?

Write them down, no matter how small, write down your life for a week even a month, then highlight the bits you enjoy and the bits you don’t! If you go to the pub every night on the way home for a pint and to wind down before going home, chances are you’ll need that in Australia. How many times did you go to the art gallery? Will you need to live near that type of entertainment, do you catch public transport or do you drive to work, and how long does it take? Do you enjoy that part of your life?

Moving to Australia gives you a chance to re start your life but don’t wipe away those things you enjoy otherwise you will miss it, and that could affect whether you stay or go! Look at states that have the things you love as well as the things you would like. Put the things you already do above those you would like to do...

To ship or not to ship?

Bring everything, and I mean everything, bring clothes hangers, clothes pegs, that old sofa that only has 6 months left before it falls apart. EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!

WHY you may ask? Not because things are more expensive, but it saves you the stress of trying to find and buy things. When you arrive you have your whole life to sort out, a house, a car, schools, jobs, Medicare etc, etc, etc..... Do you really want the stress of trying to find your dream sofa?

Most people rent first so why buy your dream sofa to fit a house that you don’t own? It takes time to find where to shop to get those bargains, give you that time.

When you are ready to buy, haggle, don’t be afraid to ask is that the best price! Even then, walk away and look somewhere else, and if that’s the one you want after that, go back and tell them you want it cheaper..... They expect it, and the worst they can say is, sorry that’s our best price! You can even haggle at the op shop! (Charity shops)

<o:p></o:p>

Try and keep a few thousand in the bank for a trip back to the UK if needed. Sometimes the thought of being able to go back is enough to make you want to stay.... Work that one out? Where if you don’t have the money you can feel trapped.... And that could make you want to leave!

<o:p></o:p>

When looking at an area to rent take a check list with you, sounds silly I know. Have 2 lists, things that you need out of the area and things that you need out of a house. It amazes me how many people whinge that they aren’t close to public transport, parks, shops, schools, pubs etc. Go into a real estate agent and tell them the things you need and let them help you find the right house that suits ALL of your needs.

When you find the house that suits your needs, haggle about the price, if there are plenty of rentals you should get a reduction, or if it doesn’t have a dish washer, air conditioner tell them you want one (if that’s what you’d like) The worst they can say is sorry the answer is no!

Once you get a house, go through it with a fine tooth comb, write down every mark, every cob web and every weed, then sign it and get the real estate agent to sign it and copy it for their file and yours. That way when you’re ready to leave you have come back! It’s amazing how many people get stung because a pre existing mark wasn’t written on the check list!

<o:p></o:p>

Making friends!

<o:p></o:p>

It can be bloody hard, if you need friends you’ll have to make the effort. Think back to your old life, how often did you make new friends and include them in your group? PIO is a great way to meet like minded people, but then you get stuck with just ex pats.... Make the effort and join in groups that you have an interest in. It will happen in time.

<o:p></o:p>

Getting out and about, if you live in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane buy a Melways, Sydways, Brisways. (Unsure about the other states) For those that don’t know they are a map book. Take a look at the back part of the book; they have loads of info on sports clubs, picnic grounds etc and then the map to get you there LOL.....

<o:p></o:p>

I guess everything I’ve written is simple advice, but it seems that some get caught up in living the dream rather than living their life. Don’t worry about the price of a lemon, that will work itself out. Work out what you need and what you’d like and if things don’t work out don’t go home upset because life didn’t work out the way you wanted, don’t go home with bad thoughts about Australia, go home with the knowledge that you have figured out what is important to you and your family. People can go their whole life not knowing that, people can go their whole life wondering what if? At least you gave it a go, yes it may have cost thousands, yes you may have to start again, but that gives you a chance to do things differently, enjoy that fact!

<o:p></o:p>

Good luck to everyone in Australia loving their new life, good luck to those returning back home, good luck to everyone who is starting their journey. Never give up on your dreams. To those stuck in Australia treading water, I hope that something goes your way and you get to return home.

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All the best and take care.

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Geoffrey

See ya.


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As this thread is from 2009 I doubt very much that Geoff is going to be seeing it.

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Drinking rum before 11am does not make you an alcoholic, it makes you pirate..

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Getting out and about, if you live in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane buy a Melways, Sydways, Brisways. (Unsure about the other states)

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at a guess, Adways, Perways, Canways, Hobways, Darways, Kutways?


My Brain Hurts!

 

 

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As this thread is from 2009 I doubt very much that Geoff is going to be seeing it.

 

That must have been a typo on your part there Petals, Geoff wrote it in late 2011, I was poking fun at his opinion of people who come on here move to Oz then never come back on.

Probably they are the one's that will live to a ripe old age in Beautiful Australia.

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