Guest flossiebess Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 Hey there hoping for some advice here! I've been granted a 457 with a job in Perth, my hub is an electrician and we were originally going to go down the SS route but I've been fortunate enough to get this job... what we really want is PR, have we got more chance of PR if I work for 2 years then apply on my skill (i work in recruitment) or would it be better if my husband got licensed straight away and we applied on his skill - which is definitely more in demand and currently on the SMP. With all the changes that are happening I'm a bit confused as to the best route/plan!! Thanks :cute:
Guest cdchaplin Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 i been advised by my agent that 457 is last resort. It maybe worth trying to contact the employer and asking whether they will consider sponsoring you for 121 which is pr visa. It costs them nothing more and although they think it is more paperwork , it actually isn't!!! Worth a try!! :laugh:I certainly am!!!!
loubeany Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 i been advised by my agent that 457 is last resort. It maybe worth trying to contact the employer and asking whether they will consider sponsoring you for 121 which is pr visa. It costs them nothing more and although they think it is more paperwork , it actually isn't!!! Worth a try!! :laugh:I certainly am!!!! i been advised by my agent that 457 is last resort. may i ask why a 457 is a last resort ? My OH has been granted a 457 organised by the companies agent and they will take us and pay for a pr ... the reason many go down the 457 route is because its usually the quickest route of getting a new employee into the country and role.
Guest cdchaplin Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 he said cos it's temp visa what can happen is when over there and apply for pr sometimes many find gov have put cap on visa immigration for that year then your buggered! I just very cautious with family and kids that i would rather know i got pr visa straight off rather than the fear that we would have to leave oz in 28 days if something not go to plan!!! Just remember though everyone situation personal and different so good luck with your journey! collette xx
loubeany Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 he said cos it's temp visa what can happen is when over there and apply for pr sometimes many find gov have put cap on visa immigration for that year then your buggered! I just very cautious with family and kids that i would rather know i got pr visa straight off rather than the fear that we would have to leave oz in 28 days if something not go to plan!!! Just remember though everyone situation personal and different so good luck with your journey!collette xx Hi totally understand your point ... I do however know a little bit about 457 and honestly most 457 are for minimum of 2 years. Most companies that sponsor for example will use a 457 visa and then move onto the pr as the family / employee are out in Oz. Depends am sure who is backing you and if they have clout but a 457 is not a last resort at all so dont worry. All that said however if you need some strong assurance then a pr is definately the best 1st route. Good luck with it all
kissofthegypsy Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 457 is a risk but then its the quickest route here, I am not sure I would be jumping at a 12 month contract on a 457 but with a decent permie job like we did it seemed ok. Admittedly, if the ex-OH had lost her job at the time the 28 day limit would have kicked in but the job was with Queensland health. After 7 months on 457 they sponsored us for 856 PR so we are now permanent. Split with the cheating who-a and now with an awesome girl who I marry in feb (another way to get PR if you hadnt got it lol)
Guest flossiebess Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 thanks for the replies, i guess I need to speak to an agent really to get some advice. read some stuff last night about state sponsorship on off-list jobs for perm residency etc so there are other options! the 457 is a 4 year visa, admittedly if I lose my job then i only have 28 days to find another otherwise we have to leave. However, once you are granted that visa you can work for another company. I guess you just try and second-guess every situation! The only thing stopping us applying for SS here is the vetassess hoops that my hub will have to jump through, it seems far easier to get a certificate (TRA and ARTC) once you are in Oz. if anyone else has done what i first mentioned then i'd be keen to hear from you
_shel Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 You also get no government help such as help with childcare or family tax benefits etc and also have to pay international rates for your kids in school in some areas. Many find this very off considering you still pay the same rates of tax.
Guest flossiebess Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 You also get no government help such as help with childcare or family tax benefits etc and also have to pay international rates for your kids in school in some areas. Many find this very off considering you still pay the same rates of tax. yes, but you can get the LAFHA (living away from home allowance) which offsets rental/food etc against your tax, so you end up with a massive chunk back. it works out quite good.
kissofthegypsy Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 yes, but you can get the LAFHA (living away from home allowance) which offsets rental/food etc against your tax, so you end up with a massive chunk back. it works out quite good. Not everyone offers it tho, I lost it when we got PR and it costs me about 1k a month not having it aaargh, but I am now permanent.
Guest flossiebess Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 Not everyone offers it tho, I lost it when we got PR and it costs me about 1k a month not having it aaargh, but I am now permanent. yeah, its getting the balance right!!!
loubeany Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 I think the answer is you need to find the right visa that suits ur needs ... a 457 for us worked well.. we get to oz on a 4 year contract .. the company pays for the move and visas pr 457s the lot - the reason it works for us is because we hav no children, what is good for one isnt always good for another.
Guest flossiebess Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 yes - we would ideally like PR first, but the quickest route is 457. i've been offered relocation from one company but not from another...
loubeany Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 yes - we would ideally like PR first, but the quickest route is 457. i've been offered relocation from one company but not from another... Good luck with it all and whatever your decision just make sure that if you except 457 that the company are willing to pay for pr... and it should be written into your contract as we requested. The company my other half has gone with are quite big fish so use a belting agent.. they also give us an apartment and car for a period to help with set up and they pay for all these processes so its a big deal for them... I feel its as secure as anything can be in this day and age- I also know families that have done it very successfully on a 457 for starters so just get the best advice you can and the best of luck. We leave end of the month so not long to go for us.. :jiggy:
Pumpkin Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 Hi totally understand your point ... I do however know a little bit about 457 and honestly most 457 are for minimum of 2 years. Most companies that sponsor for example will use a 457 visa and then move onto the pr as the family / employee are out in Oz. Depends am sure who is backing you and if they have clout but a 457 is not a last resort at all so dont worry. Are you saying that most 457 holders become PR? Do you have any evidence of that? I always assumed the majority go back to the UK or wherever at the end of an assignment. The ones that to transer to PR are probably over represented on the forums and not typical.
_shel Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 Are you saying that most 457 holders become PR? Do you have any evidence of that? I always assumed the majority go back to the UK or wherever at the end of an assignment. The ones that to transer to PR are probably over represented on the forums and not typical. Exactly & I see many post like these on this and other forums.... http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/113023-employment-terminated-inbetween-457-857-visa.html http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/113485-457-redundant-now-what-options-do-we-have.html
Guest tandcmum Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 personally i think it depends on your occupation as to wether a 457 is a good idea. I'm a nurse and I woul consider going over on a 457 becauseas nurses are so highly in demand (apparently) there whould be no problems with getting terminated or with finding another hospital to take over the visa, and lots of hospitals will sponsor for PR after a qualifying period. The only problems are if you hate your job then you are stuck. Other occupations that are more prone to budget cuts/ lack of work and therfore redundancy i would tread carefully
loubeany Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 Are you saying that most 457 holders become PR? Do you have any evidence of that? I always assumed the majority go back to the UK or wherever at the end of an assignment. The ones that to transer to PR are probably over represented on the forums and not typical. No of course I am not saying that most 457s get pr ... what I am pointing out is that a 457 serves a very good purpose and can lead without to many issues to a pr... why do you think that most 457s return to uk or different consignment ?? The reason many industry use a 457 to begin with is simply its quicker and gets the employee into oz and work, After this period they may sponsor you like our company for pr - thats it in a nut shell - my only point
loubeany Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 Are you saying that most 457 holders become PR? Do you have any evidence of that? I always assumed the majority go back to the UK or wherever at the end of an assignment. The ones that to transer to PR are probably over represented on the forums and not typical. Maybe should have used the word (some)- instead of most - :notworthy:
Guest rodly Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 We came out on 457 and then applied for PR when here, sponsored by my husband's employer. It was very quick, only 6 weeks from submitting all forms. Good luck
Guest can36 Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 Hi - we are also heading to QLD on a 457 thanks to my other half - however we share/d the same concerns having a young family - what if even 2 years down the line we get turfed out....? We're considered carrying on with our original plan for a PR visa to run alongside the temp one. However, having read some of the posts - it sounds a lot more positive...and at the end of the day if my other half is still employed by the sponsoring company - it is in her T&C that they will have to pay for us to come back to the UK again...(they are paying for us to get out there!) - fingers crossed it all works out for you and us and there's PR down the line somwhere!
loubeany Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 Hi - we are also heading to QLD on a 457 thanks to my other half - however we share/d the same concerns having a young family - what if even 2 years down the line we get turfed out....? We're considered carrying on with our original plan for a PR visa to run alongside the temp one. However, having read some of the posts - it sounds a lot more positive...and at the end of the day if my other half is still employed by the sponsoring company - it is in her T&C that they will have to pay for us to come back to the UK again...(they are paying for us to get out there!) - fingers crossed it all works out for you and us and there's PR down the line somwhere! The very best ofluck with it all... and just keep your partners company on there toes about the pr side of things - am sure it will work out very well for you. Just make sure you always get the best proff advice and things will be just fine. Take care and enjoy your new life .. you must all be so excited for the future. :jiggy:
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