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Validating Visa advise needed please

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Guest steffijones

Can anyone tell me, when you get your visa granted ( eventually! ), do the whole family have to travel to Oz to validate or is it just the main visa applicant?

Obviously with a house to sell we may need to validate before that happens and although we are still waiting for CO and visa we are trying to get a little bit organised and have a fall back plan!!

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Guest MaybeOz

Hope this information helps ...

 

Visa Validation-Australia

 

A very commonly asked question.

 

How long to validate your visa?

- Permanent visas granted offshore normally have a 'first entry date'. ALL family members must enter Australia by this date.

- The main applicant must enter Australia first (or at the same time as the rest of the family). The others must enter Australia after the main applicant and before the 'first entry date'. This is known as 'validating' the visa.

- The 'first entry date' is normally around 12 months from the earliest date of police checks and medicals. Some people get less than that if medicals have a lesser validity - 6 months is not unknown.

- 'First entry date' cannot be changed after your visa is granted. If there is a problem meeting this date after visa has been granted, you must seek urgent professional advice to liaise with DIMIA so they do not cancel your visas. Only in exceptional circumstances will you be able to keep your visa if you do not respect the 'first entry date'.

- It is quite acceptable to validate a visa with a holiday in Australia.

- If the main applicant validates visa, and the family members do not, the family visas will generally be cancelled but the visa of the main applicant will not be. Main applicant may then sponsor family members for spouse and/or child visas, subject to the requirements at the time.

Changes in circumstances

- Any changes in circumstances before you validate your visa must be advised to DIAC.

- This particularly refers to health and character issues.

- Also refers to changes in family composition, eg marriage (including de-facto relationships) or birth of a child.

- DIAC do have the right to cancel a visa if a change in circumstance before validation is sufficient to mean that the visa would not have been granted in the first place.

 

How long to make the 'proper' move?

- The visa is valid for 5 years from the date of grant (NOT the date the visa is stamped or validated)

- You are expected to be in Australia for a total of 2 years (730 days) in this 5 year period.

- This is so that you easily qualify for a Resident Return Visa (RRV) after the 5 years is up. You will need an RRV to re-enter Australia as a PR if you are not an Australian citizen.

- If you do not meet this requirement but are inside Australia on the expiry date of the visa (5 years hence) the visa does not expire until the moment you set foot outside Australia for any reason.

- Hence if you are living in Australia at the end of the 5 year period you will probably not lose your PR but you will face hassle in getting an RRV.

- In order to keep life simple, make sure you move to Australia no later than 3 years from visa grant. This ensures you will have the 2 years in Australia required to get an RRV 'no questions asked' at the end of the 5 year period.

- Form 968i is an essential resource to understand the RRV rules. Bear in mind these can change anytime. http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/968i.pdf

- Becoming an Australian citizen is the only way to fully secure your status in Australia. Australian citizens do not require RRVs. In general, permanent residents can apply for Australian citizenship after 4 years legal residence in Australia, including at least 1 year as a PR. (for a transitional period until June 2010, some permanent residents can still apply after 2 years as a PR) http://www.citizenship.gov.au

 

Things to do on a validation trip

 

  • Open a bank account (or two), especially ones without charges. You can do this as a new migrant with just your passport, in the first few weeks, without needing to meet the 100 points ID test.
    • With a non-Australian address, the bank should only need to deduct 10% Non-Resident Tax from the interest.
    • You can claim this as a credit on your U.K. tax return (against the interest income).

     

     

Things NOT to do on a validation trip

 

  • Obtain a driving licence. You are not eligible to do this in most places until you establish real residence in that jurisdiction.
  • Register with Medicare. Again, as a visitor on vacation, you are not eligible for Medicare as you are not resident in Australia. Registering with Medicare may cause problems if it is then felt that you have established residence:
    • The Australian Taxation Office may take it as an indicator of establishing tax residence in Australia.
    • You may later on have difficulty with the "1 year rule" for new migrants to take out private health insurance without paying an age loading. See Healthcare in Australia

     

    [*]Obtain a Tax File Number.

     

    • You don't need one as a non-resident and obtaining one may give an indication of establishing tax residence in Australia.

     

     

Note. If you have a temporary visa (eg temporary spouse, most business skill visas, provisional (temporary) skilled visa or a 457) then there will be different rules. Permanent business visas and employer nominated permanent visas have special obligations which must be adhered to in addition to the points below.

 

 

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Guest manish

Hi,

what do validating the PR visa mean . We are visitng Australia first tme after obtaining PR(175) . For validating the visa do we have to do some special formalities ?or just the immigration stamp on the airport is enough for validating..

 

manish

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Guest RunnerBean

Can you validate the visa when you actually move over if it's within the time frame? Or does it have to be a separate visit?

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Can you validate the visa when you actually move over if it's within the time frame? Or does it have to be a separate visit?

 

No seperate visit required, just has to be before the first entry date.

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Can you validate the visa when you actually move over if it's within the time frame? Or does it have to be a separate visit?

 

Hi, validation of the visa is just your first entry into Australia after issue of the visa. It can be part of your permanent move to Australia or can be done as a separate trip if you're not ready to move yet. The only important thing is the entry has to be by the validation date given. Hope that helps.

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Hi, validation of the visa is just your first entry into Australia after issue of the visa. It can be part of your permanent move to Australia or can be done as a separate trip if you're not ready to move yet. The only important thing is the entry has to be by the validation date given. Hope that helps.

Thanks for that!

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Hi All

 

Do you have to do anything in particular to validate e.g. go and visit the local immigration office? Or do you literally have to pass through passport control and get out of the aiport onto Australian soil?

 

Once done, do you have to stay for a minimum period of time to validate? We were thinking of combining a quick (2 to 3 days) in Australia to validate followed by a holiday (perhaps Hong Kong) on the way back. Does this work?

 

Any thoughts welcomed.


Jan09 started TRA. Oct09 TRA granted. Feb10 175 app. Dec10 WA SS app. Jan11 WA SS granted. 10.02.11 175 changed to 176. 15.02.11 CO allocated. 09.03.11 Police Certs done. 11.03.11 Meds done. 25.03.11 Meds Finalised. 13.04.11 Visa granted. 1 way flight booked 12.08.13 :biggrin:

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Hi All

 

Do you have to do anything in particular to validate e.g. go and visit the local immigration office? Or do you literally have to pass through passport control and get out of the aiport onto Australian soil?

 

Once done, do you have to stay for a minimum period of time to validate? We were thinking of combining a quick (2 to 3 days) in Australia to validate followed by a holiday (perhaps Hong Kong) on the way back. Does this work?

 

Any thoughts welcomed.

 

Just getting your passport stamped at arrivals activates the visa. You don't even need to leave the airport if you didn't want to. :wink:

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Just getting your passport stamped at arrivals activates the visa. You don't even need to leave the airport if you didn't want to. :wink:

 

Cool. Thanks Peach.

 

One more question: do you need to re-do your meds and police checks if you validate and move out later? Or is it the case that - so long as you validate within your given time - they stay valid?


Jan09 started TRA. Oct09 TRA granted. Feb10 175 app. Dec10 WA SS app. Jan11 WA SS granted. 10.02.11 175 changed to 176. 15.02.11 CO allocated. 09.03.11 Police Certs done. 11.03.11 Meds done. 25.03.11 Meds Finalised. 13.04.11 Visa granted. 1 way flight booked 12.08.13 :biggrin:

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Once the visa has been granted, you no longer need to worry about medicals just validation.

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Guest dolly01

So your visa only took 8 months to get approved from the time the online application went in? That's good to hear as we keep being told 12 months and it's such a long time to put everything on hold for.

 

QUOTE=AustrAnglian;1016906]Hi, validation of the visa is just your first entry into Australia after issue of the visa. It can be part of your permanent move to Australia or can be done as a separate trip if you're not ready to move yet. The only important thing is the entry has to be by the validation date given. Hope that helps.

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Guest prats

Hi

 

I have recieved sub class VE 176 SS (VIC) grant. We have visa stickers or labels evidenced on our passports (me, spouse and lil kid). I was thinking and trying to call DIAC from overseas, but it was taking lot of time to connect any officer. but, I have read this from forum and thread about Validation trip and came to know lots of important information which is required for a Validation the trip as a holiday. Thanks to all here in the thread.

 

I had also few doubts of what is validation and what to do exactly on a validation trip...

Q1: We have initial entry date in Dec 2011 and therefore we thought to enter and visit Australia in October 2011 and return back after staying 4 days in October2011 itself...So it that OK...? as a validation of Visas and then again we can move to Australia next year...?

 

Q2: Since we will visit Australia just as a holiday trip, we would not be able to do formalities like opening a Bank account, Registering with centrelink, Tax File Number and Medicare.

So it that OK...? and Is these formalities are part of part of visa validation or they are nothing to with DIAC VISAS.

We are carring Cash so not opening bank account as of now; We are taking travel Insurance includes health insurance,So not thinking on medicare.

 

Advise/Suggestions would higly appreciated...

 

Thankx

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Hope this information helps ...

 

 

 

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This is really useful information. Is it from an official source? i.e DIAC? I wasn't aware of the two years in Oz to get RRV. It should still work out for us though as we plan to validate Next April, then move permanently late 2014. (All being well!)

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Hi All,

 

Just wondering whether do we need to validate the visa at the State that sponsored our visa(mine is SS Victoria, ie Melbourne) or it can be done at anywhere as long as it's on Australian soil?

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Hi All,

 

Just wondering whether do we need to validate the visa at the State that sponsored our visa(mine is SS Victoria, ie Melbourne) or it can be done at anywhere as long as it's on Australian soil?

 

 

You can validate at any place in Australia. Enytry at any airport of Australia validates your visa. The visa validation information is stored in thier system and they stamp on your passport at immigration.

 

We have Victoia SS sponsorship and wanted to see Melbourne, So we booked tickets for Mebourne only.

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Hello All!

This is an old post but the information here is quite worrying....for me anyway...

It says that you would have had to live 2 years in Oz out of the 5 years of the granted resident visa to qualify for RRV.

The potential problem for us is that we have "oldies", that is parents who are quite elderly and we were leaving it quite late until we go and take up permanent residence in Oz. Basically we'd like to leave it as late as poss before the 5years are up. but now this has come up, this news that we have to have been 730 days to qualify for a RRV.

Is this true??

Thank you very much indeed :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hope this information helps ...

 

 

 

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http://www.immi.gov.au/migrants/residents/155/eligibility.htm

 

[h=1]Eligibility[/h]If you do not meet the requirements for a Five Year Resident Return visa (subclass 155), your application will be assessed against the criteria for a Three Month Resident Return visa (subclass 157).

To be eligible for a Resident Return visa you must be one of the following:

 

  • an Australian permanent resident
  • a former Australian permanent resident whose last permanent visa was not cancelled
  • a former Australian Citizen who lost or renounced your citizenship.

You must also meet one of the following eligibility requirements.

[TABLE=class: tableborder, width: 1]

[TR]

[TH=bgcolor: #ECECEC]Length of visa[/TH]

[TH=bgcolor: #ECECEC]Eligibility requirements[/TH]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Five years[/TD]

[TD]You must have spent two of the last five years in Australia as a permanent resident.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]One year (for applicants in Australia)[/TD]

[TD]You must provide evidence that proves you have substantial business, cultural, employment or personal ties of benefit to Australia.

 

If you have been absent from Australia for more than five continuous years since the grant of your most recent permanent visa or since you ceased being a citizen, you must provide evidence that there was a compelling reason for your absence.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]One year (for applicants outside Australia)[/TD]

[TD]If you hold a permanent visa or your last departure from Australia was as a permanent resident or Australian citizen:

 

  • you must provide evidence that proves you have substantial business, cultural, employment or personal ties of benefit to Australia
  • if you have been absent for more than five continuous years since your last departure from Australia as an Australian permanent resident or Australian citizen, you must provide evidence that there was a compelling reason for your absence.

If you do not hold a permanent visa and when you last left Australia you were not an Australian permanent resident or Australian citizen, you must meet all of the following:

 

  • have been an Australian citizen, or an Australian permanent resident, less than 10 years before lodging your application
  • provide evidence that proves you have substantial business, cultural, employment or personal ties of benefit to Australia
  • if you have been absent from Australia for a total period of more than five years since last departing as an Australian permanent resident or citizen you must provide evidence that there was a compelling reason for your absence.

[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Three months[/TD]

[TD]You must:

 

  • have spent at least one day in the last five years lawfully in Australia
  • have spent less than two years in the last five years in Australia
  • have been a permanent resident or an Australian citizen for the entire period spent in Australia
  • provide evidence that there is a compelling and compassionate reason for your departure.

If you have been outside Australia for more than three continuous months immediately before making the application, you must also show that there is a compelling and compassionate reason for the absence.[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Maximum one year[/TD]

[TD]If you do not meet the requirements above you may be eligible for a Resident Return visa if you are the partner or dependent family member of a Resident Return visa holder.

 

If this is your situation, you can only be granted a visa for up to one year and the period granted cannot exceed the time remaining on your family member's visa.[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

You cannot apply for a Resident Return visa if your most recent permanent visa was one of the following Business Skills visas and it has been cancelled, or is subject to a notice of intention to cancel:

 

  • Business Owner visa (subclasses 127 and 840)
  • Senior Executive visa (subclasses 128 and 841)
  • State/Territory Sponsored Business Owner visa (subclasses 129 and 842)
  • State/Territory Sponsored Senior Executive visa (subclasses 130 and 843)
  • Investment-Linked visa (subclasses 131 and 844)
  • Business Talent visa (subclass 132).

 

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