legoman Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 i think peeps like us are all nice, its good to have the banter and get the info too me ..I.m 49 i guess in 50yrs it wont matter where I am but people will say 'what a life ride that guy had, just hope they dont stick me in one spot for eternity :biglaugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobby Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 i think peeps like us are all nice, its good to have the banter and get the info too me ..I.m 49 i guess in 50yrs it wont matter where I am but people will say 'what a life ride that guy had, just hope they dont stick me in one spot for eternity :biglaugh: I like to think most of us can say we have had a great ride and adventure in life at the end of it.....you are spot on though, when we go in that hole it is for ever :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cricketbackinengland Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I see Legoman..got it!:smile: I'm from Australia and I've lived in the UK for ten years and heading back home, but I'm going to miss it very much...The UK is so diverse, you have far more things here than you do in Australia..one of them is the seasons, which is the thing folk miss most! But beautiful sights and country side, and great cities with friendly people, I've never had trouble in all my time and being a vet you more than often see people very stressed, but I've never been treated with anything other than politeness and courtesy. That's quite something!! UK folk are great...I've got myself one, and I'm keeping him!! But good luck with your sale and move..somethings got to give at some point!! Rach Just wanted to wish you luck when you move back to Oz. It's funny to note reading your post, that the people who seem to really appreciate the UK are those that come from another country rather than the Brits themselves. I know Americans go into raptures about living and working here and one of the things I've heard Aussies and Americans say is that they like the smallness of it and being able to get from one place to another quickly. I guess if you come from a big sky country, you can both miss the space but enjoy the quirkiness of being on a small island. I'm English, lived in Oz for 7 years. I love France!:biggrin: It's a pain having friends with houses in France, such a distraction for settling back down here. But I love England too. Won't be going far for a while, mostly because of business commitments though. What will you miss most when you go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaybeOz Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Work - Work here in the South East is erratic for hubby (self-employed electrician) and has been for at least the past year. To help keep us afloat I have had to take four different jobs as well as do the usual housework, shopping, laundry, taking care of the kids, etc etc etc and to be honest I am totally knackered most of the time! Education - The school I teach in and which my youngest child attends sent out a letter to us parents last week full of doom and gloom about the impact of the impending April public sector cuts on the school's funding and how they are going to be relying on parents all the more for donations ... we already 'donate' towards schooling in our taxes! NHS - my eldest son was recently hospitalised due to acute sinisitis. He was an inpatient for 10 days and although his overall care was superb the whole experience really opened my eyes to how much the NHS has gone down hill (I used to work for the NHS 10 years ago). At each step of his care you could see the Doctors/Surgeons etc weighing up care against cost and it was really frightening! Our son should have been operated on the day he was admitted but they kept 'monitoring' him for 3 days in the hope that he would improve and avoid the costs of surgery ... it was so close to the wire that once they did decide to take invasive action and operate the infection had passed through the bone of his eye socket and as a consequence he is currently having to have IV antibiotics for 6 weeks to avoid further complications! Mortgage - Like a lot of people we can only afford to have an interest only mortgage and therefore over the past 11 years have shelled out a fortunte and not made the slightest difference to the loan ... it depresses me to think that in 14 years time we will have to sell up and down-size to give the bank their money back - On a positive note we have a fair amount of capital in the house (but not as much as we did have 2-3 years ago) so we wont be left destitute but on a negative note, as we are still in the UK, we could move to Aus with our capital and practically buy a house outright! Conclusion - I assume all those making the move back to the UK have at least spent time reading several of the online UK papers (don't just read one as they all support different political parties and back-bite on every news report) to get a measure of what is actually happening here in terms of the economy, immigration, crime statistics, unemployment statistics? I'd definitely say that the research before moving back to the UK has to be as stringent as that made before you moved to Aus even if you are returning to your homeland. Kari :wubclub: Millions of people are struggling here in the uk and there is little sign of any grass roots of recovery, unless the news papers and news channels are lying to us all, it might be that old chestnut, The Brits see the negative side of things. No sign of a pay rise for years and our pensions are being savaged and increases in pension payments are coming soon, which is a reduction in pay for millions. Plus unemployment is increasing and a high percentage of new jobs created are poorly paid, part time, or temporary and this is tragic for millions of poor folk and their families. Some good news, just announced on the news is that Australia is booming with last years growth figures at 2.7% increase and they say it wil be even better this year, with more jobs and more opportunities for young people, sounds great for us trying to get to Australia. The two countries are worlds apart at present financially, hopefully things will pick up soon in the uk, but it has a long way to go yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Yes I would say that most would do their research, I made a trip to the UK late last year and spoke at length to our friends etc. Economy wise things will be tough for the country for awhile but things are definitely picking up in some areas such as manufacturing. Immigration, well I guess anyone coming here will be an immigrant. Crime, we seem to have practically the same level of crime in both countries, some types of crime is higher in either country but overall about the same. Of course we would be 'escaping' very high mortgage rates with more increases set for later in the year. The most unaffordable housing in the world, officially. The fastest increasing grocery prices in the developed world and a near total reliance on China booming. That is not to say that this country isn't a great place to live, as with the UK it is what you make of it. I do agree that people need to research long and hard. Conclusion - I assume all those making the move back to the UK have at least spent time reading several of the online UK papers (don't just read one as they all support different political parties and back-bite on every news report) to get a measure of what is actually happening here in terms of the economy, immigration, crime statistics, unemployment statistics? I'd definitely say that the research before moving back to the UK has to be as stringent as that made before you moved to Aus even if you are returning to your homeland. Kari :wubclub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legoman Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 most would also take what the press say with a pinch of salt, the press here love doom and gloom, and if there is'nt a story they invent one and of course never let the truth get in the way of a good story. when in Perth my partner collapsed, doc came out first thing he asked was for her medicare card whilst my partner on floor, took her to hospital to save 900 dol ambulance fee, fights in waiting room and eventually when she was seen she onn a stretcher in a line of around 10-12 stretchers with men and women on, no privacy at all. you can see what you want to see here in the uk maybeoz, hav you lived abroad yet?. I am moving back to perth but dont be under any illusions about how tough it is there and you will miss some of the things you take for granted, when you are in oz and hope fully soon for you, you will see the uk deffo not a bad country, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennlx Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Hmmmm....it does seem that this recession in the UK has been very subjective. I am more worried about the public sector cuts. Every day in the paper there's news of the jobs to be cut in the NHS (my two local hospital are slashing 500 jobs each); the improvements for schools was cut, the support for mothers in the community (SureStart) is getting the axe, pensions (my state pension age will be 74....yikes! Yes, hopefully, I will be able to squirrel away enough - but still!), council services cut, public sector job losses, merging two or more councils to create 'Super Councils' etc. etc. etc. So, yup, some people are coming through the recession okay (including myself) - but I really wonder what's around the corner....hopefully it's all happy days, but I am still troubled daily by what I read and see around me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cricketbackinengland Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Don't think anyone starves in the UK 'Starving' families forced to steal food in wake of rising prices | News.com.au Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaybeOz Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 A few avenues for research ... http://www.poverty.org.uk/index.htm http://www.poverty.org.uk/summary/key%20facts.shtml Kari :wubclub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennlx Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Uhm....actually, I think there are people who starve in the UK. It might not make the newspapers, but it does indeed happen. Unless you think homeless shelters (which, in London, many are turned away from) are providing Wifi and champagne to their guests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaybeOz Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Interesting report here ... http://www.poverty.org.uk/reports/mpse%202010%20findings.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legoman Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 lol, come on now, its getting silly, this is the uk not the poor people in the middle east or africa get a grip on reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaybeOz Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Don't think anyone starves in the UK 'Starving' families forced to steal food in wake of rising prices | News.com.au CHARITY AID FOR STARVING.. IN UK - page 2 | Sunday Mirror Newspaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legoman Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 and the mirror tells the truth???? check out why peirs morgan sacked from the mirror, huge faked scandal of british troop abuse. this knock the uk is going to come back and bite some people on the bum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRK AND CO Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I will say what I always say recession what recession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris955 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I think what we are seeing here is natural, those wanting to come here for a 'better' life will want to see the bad in the country they are leaving and the best in the country they are going to. As I say that is normal and a natural thing to do. To expand a little, if we look at stats then both countries would have a similar rate of crime, your exposure to it very much depends on where you live in either country. Both countries suffer from poverty. Both countries are suffering from lack of investment in hospitals and schools. We are always involved in fund raising at our kids school because of a lack of money. If anyone imagines they will leave it all behind them then they are wrong I'm afraid. and the mirror tells the truth????check out why peirs morgan sacked from the mirror, huge faked scandal of british troop abuse. this knock the uk is going to come back and bite some people on the bum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peacock Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I think the big difference is the economy, Oz is booming, while the UK is not with huge cuts now taking effect that no one can predict the out come from, we have China, what does the UK have, we have huge reserves of natural rescources, UK has north sea oil which is coming to the end of its life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happycrappy Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Plus you'll get spanked sensless on dental and any kind of specialised medical stuff. I miss the NHS everythings nearly FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaybeOz Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 It's not free here in the UK, you pay for it all in your Taxes! Plus you'll get spanked sensless on dental and any kind of specialised medical stuff. I miss the NHS everythings nearly FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRK AND CO Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I think the big difference is the economy, Oz is booming, while the UK is not with huge cuts now taking effect that no one can predict the out come from, we have China, what does the UK have, we have huge reserves of natural rescources, UK has north sea oil which is coming to the end of its life. Its got ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cricketbackinengland Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 The banking and mining industry in Australia is booming not the little person in the street. And that's all China is interested in. As far as the NHS goes, what national service or government can afford to treat the growing number of obesity, excess alcohol, smoking and drug related problems? It's this that's killing off the NHS because there isn't enough money to cure it. It isn't fair on those people who look after their health and then get sick or the chronically ill. Mortgages - I don't really get this. If rates have been historically low at around 0%, how can you not afford to pay your mortgage. Other bills might have increased slightly but I can't see any huge changes or wild price increases. Crime - nothing happens here that doesn't happen in Australia because the social ills and problems are the same. Australia - a person who does it tough is referred to as the true blue Aussie battler. They are championed and upheld for their skills in surviving some of the worst setbacks and poverty you are ever likely to see. The only difference is in the UK the media highlights it very differently pointing out how wrong it is that people are living without the basic of means. In Australia, coping this way you get saluted and told she'll be roight mate'. Don't bet on not seeing as much poverty, despair and homesless kids, never mind adults, in Oz. It's just being miserable and without in the sun is a better disguise and probably a bit easier to tolerate. Watch how many poor homeless families migrate from Melbourne to the Gold Coast in winter over there in live near rivers in their cars. Seen it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peach Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 ...here's a couple of stats. The taxes collected on cigarettes would pay for a whole NHS just for smokers.. (I don't smoke). Also, if the NHS were to improve to the level of Poland's health service (a country not known for its sobriety) it would save 36 lives a day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cricketbackinengland Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 ... The taxes collected on cigarettes would pay for a whole NHS just for smokers.. (I don't smoke). Also, if the NHS were to improve to the level of Poland's health service (a country not known for its sobriety) it would save 36 lives a day... ...I'm not going to get into an argument with you. Sorry. I hope you'll be happy in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AndyandYvonneD Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Refrigiation engineer maintanece and contract, am on my Iphone now waithing for a restaurant to open so I can fix their frezzer. Strange, 2years ago you said you were an electrician:biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest30038 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 ...I'm not going to get into an argument with you. Sorry. I didn't expect you to.:biglaugh: As soon as anyone has a differing opinion to yours, or you're questioned on something that you say, it's the ignore button, unsubscribe, or "Im not going to get in an argument with you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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