suziblue Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Hi all! Firstly i am new to this site and not sure how everything works yet, but here goes! I have joined this site as my partner and i decided we would love to make the move to australia. We are both mid 20's, i am studying nursing while my partner is in construction management. My partners little sister has recently gained residency in queensland and his parents are now planning to move over permanently also :shocked: My partner has informed me that an employer would sponser him for the move. We have 3 children, 9,5,4. I had my heart set on it all until through looking for info on visas i found this site and came across medical requirements for visa. This is where the nightmare (literally) started for me. My 9yr old has a diagnosis of ASD. After reading through posts/threads i realised it may be virtually impossible to gain a permanent visa with this diagnosis. Since he was diagnosed (aged 4) he has astonished health professionals by since gaining full speech (were told he would never speak) and understanding of language, he has no repetative tendancies, joins his mainstream class everyday as he asks to do so, is highly sociable, needs no assistance to self care, does not and never has been on any medication and has no physical difficulties. I am looking into migration experts but due to the anxiety and stress of learning about this i have made this my first port of call before i drown my sorrows with bottle of wine! Any advice/experience or information would be greatly appreciated. i am clinging onto any hope i have left. Thanks, Suz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_shel Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Autism has been a reason for refusal for people who post on this and other emigration sites. I'd suggest speaking to a registered migration agent who specialises in the health requirement. Australia has some funny ideas about disability imao but in looking after national interests they can and do refuse visas if they think the person will cost money (they have a set amount I can not remember atm) in medical, care needs, school support etc An agent will be able to advise if they think he may be able to 'pass' with their assistance. That said people do get visas with various conditions and disabilities so it can be done. I have epilepsy and although I waited longer than usual while doctors made a decision on my case I got my visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobby Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Autism has been a reason for refusal for people who post on this and other emigration sites. I'd suggest speaking to a registered migration agent who specialises in the health requirement. Australia has some funny ideas about disability imao but in looking after national interests they can and do refuse visas if they think the person will cost money (they have a set amount I can not remember atm) in medical, care needs, school support etc An agent will be able to advise if they think he may be able to 'pass' with their assistance. That said people do get visas with various conditions and disabilities so it can be done. I have epilepsy and although I waited longer than usual while doctors made a decision on my case I got my visa. Are you kidding me :embarrassed: that if true is disgusting to be honest, how can you stop a family whose skills are wanted in Australia bbecause one of their children has a disability in some form, I do not like that.:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobby Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Hi all! Firstly i am new to this site and not sure how everything works yet, but here goes! I have joined this site as my partner and i decided we would love to make the move to australia. We are both mid 20's, i am studying nursing while my partner is in construction management. My partners little sister has recently gained residency in queensland and his parents are now planning to move over permanently also :shocked: My partner has informed me that an employer would sponser him for the move. We have 3 children, 9,5,4. I had my heart set on it all until through looking for info on visas i found this site and came across medical requirements for visa. This is where the nightmare (literally) started for me. My 9yr old has a diagnosis of ASD. After reading through posts/threads i realised it may be virtually impossible to gain a permanent visa with this diagnosis. Since he was diagnosed (aged 4) he has astonished health professionals by since gaining full speech (were told he would never speak) and understanding of language, he has no repetative tendancies, joins his mainstream class everyday as he asks to do so, is highly sociable, needs no assistance to self care, does not and never has been on any medication and has no physical difficulties. I am looking into migration experts but due to the anxiety and stress of learning about this i have made this my first port of call before i drown my sorrows with bottle of wine! Any advice/experience or information would be greatly appreciated. i am clinging onto any hope i have left. Thanks, Suz That is unfair, keep going for it and I really hope you make it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suziblue Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Thanks shel, I hear the cost is $25000 for 5 yrs but there's telling how that cost of services is made up so I can't calculate! I am going to get in touch with a migration lawyer on mon, just sitting on my own right now and was looking for some instant support/advice! It's making me ill, I'm so upset and hardly sleeping : ( losing my family to Australia ( ain't got a big one at that) and we might never get to join them, it's madness!! Suz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Two agents often recommended for medical issues are Peter Bollard and George Lombard. Best to get some advice on this before proceeding any further. Something that is not always mentioned when this topic comes up, as it does, reasonably often, is the care and support the child will need in Australia should he visa be granted. Believe it or not, but the UK is much further advanced in these matters than Australia. Don't assume it will be similar, look into what is available in Australia and what your child needs and ensure your expectations will be met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I have replied to your question on another board but just in case you check this one ... If your son has a diagnosis of Autism, CDD or Retts (as opposed to any of the other pervasive developmental disorders) then you are going to struggle with a visa and getting good advice as suggested above is essential. The other thing is that it is a bit of a catch 22 - if your son's condition doesnt stop you getting a visa then it wont be high needs enough to warrant any support in schools! 100% 1:1 support in mainstream is highly unlikely anywhere in Australia as a matter of course. As Pumpkin said, the support offered in Aus is often significantly less than your child may be getting in UK - again, that is state dependent. Also beware of taking a 457 visa thinking this will be your way into Australia - you will still be faced with the difficulties of the medical condition when it comes to an application of permanency and you can be knocked back at that point - DIAC arent interested that "the kids have settled so well" as a reason to approve you. There are also some issues about the provision of special ed services to children on temporary visas and whether you have to pay extra for those services even if the basic school education is free (not free in ACT or NSW for starters) Get good advice and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Are you kidding me :embarrassed: that if true is disgusting to be honest, how can you stop a family whose skills are wanted in Australia bbecause one of their children has a disability in some form, I do not like that.:mad: You may not like it but the Australian tax payer might have a different view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebrol Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Hi Suzie Everyone is absolutely right about getting proper advice on your situation as every case is different. I can't really offer you much but what I would say is that ASD is one of the very few difficulties recognised in Oz and there appears to be some support for ASD children - but not necessarily in mainstream schools - there are a number of units and special schools which you have to pay fees for. I would strongly recommend finding out more about what provisions are available as Au education is very different to the UK. It must be very difficult knowing your family is moving out here but the fact that they are all going to be living here could also go in your favour! Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suziblue Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 Thanks everyone, i appreciate your advice! I must admit after researching and reading some posts on education/support for kids on autistic spectrum in australia, it isnt looking anywhere near as supportive/advanced as it is over here (UK).My sons needs will always come first. Suz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest melanieflanagan Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Hi, can't offer you any advice but we are in the same boat, we have 2 children (3) and (8). Our 8 year old has a diagnosis of ASD and ADHD and is in a mainstream school within a unit, was fully mainstream for 2 years but then went back in unit to iron out a few problems and will be intergrating again shortly. My husband has been offered employer sponsorship in melbourne on a 457 but we have concerns regarding getting a permanent visa. I have read many times on here that George Lombard is a good agent to use in these cases, think we will be getting in contact with him soon ourselves, would be good if you could let us know how you get on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobby Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Thanks everyone, i appreciate your advice! I must admit after researching and reading some posts on education/support for kids on autistic spectrum in australia, it isnt looking anywhere near as supportive/advanced as it is over here (UK).My sons needs will always come first. Suz Lots of things in Australia are not like the UK, you will not get half the benifits you do in the UK, I do not agree with a the easy benifits you get in the UK, if you are out of work in Oz it is a real struggle to get the support you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiz Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Thanks everyone, i appreciate your advice! I must admit after researching and reading some posts on education/support for kids on autistic spectrum in australia, it isnt looking anywhere near as supportive/advanced as it is over here (UK).My sons needs will always come first. Suz Sorry to hear your worries. I think with a very good letter from school and consultant, an experienced lawyer ought to be able to help you. Interestingly my grandson's ASD was diagnosed in Australia-he left the UK aged 3 and within 2 weeks of starting a pre school class the teachers were asking my daughter to refer him. She saw(privately) a fantastic OT who helped enormously. He now aged 7 goes to a brilliant school (private) which is mainstream. They are very understanding of his needs and he is doing brilliantly. However my daughter feels that the local public schools would not have been so good.... Actually she has found Australia to be much more informed about ASD etc. She also has an American friend with a severely autistic child but I am not sure if they entered Oz before he was born... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suziblue Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 Lots of things in Australia are not like the UK, you will not get half the benifits you do in the UK, I do not agree with a the easy benifits you get in the UK, if you are out of work in Oz it is a real struggle to get the support you need. e My partner and I don't get any benefits, by support I meant in schools, speech therapist, teaching strategies etc. (except DLA for our son). We own our own home and my partner has studied hard for his degree and has fufilled a construction site managers assistant job at the same time. I study nursing and get no financial help. we have family in Queensland and Victoria and are well aware of how tight your system is. We are purely looking for a netter quality of life for our family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobby Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 e My partner and I don't get any benefits, by support I meant in schools, speech therapist, teaching strategies etc. (except DLA for our son). We own our own home and my partner has studied hard for his degree and has fufilled a construction site managers assistant job at the same time. I study nursing and get no financial help. we have family in Queensland and Victoria and are well aware of how tight your system is. We are purely looking for a netter quality of life for our family. Go for it, you only live once and it is another adventure that you can look back on and smile no matter where you end up, life is short, enjoy it while you can and good luck :cute: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiz Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 e My partner and I don't get any benefits, by support I meant in schools, speech therapist, teaching strategies etc. (except DLA for our son). We own our own home and my partner has studied hard for his degree and has fufilled a construction site managers assistant job at the same time. I study nursing and get no financial help. we have family in Queensland and Victoria and are well aware of how tight your system is. We are purely looking for a netter quality of life for our family. I will ask my daughter what sort of medical she had for her elder son who was 9 when they did meds. The thing about ASD is that as it has no physical signs, I am not sure that a clinic doctor would pick anything up in a 10 minute medical-they certainly didn't with my daughter's younger son but of course she at that stage had had no diagnosis herself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suziblue Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 Go for it, you only live once and it is another adventure that you can look back on and smile no matter where you end up, life is short, enjoy it while you can and good luck :cute:[/ Appreciate your support bobby :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_shel Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I will ask my daughter what sort of medical she had for her elder son who was 9 when they did meds. The thing about ASD is that as it has no physical signs, I am not sure that a clinic doctor would pick anything up in a 10 minute medical-they certainly didn't with my daughter's younger son but of course she at that stage had had no diagnosis herself... Great advice. That in itself is obtaining a visa fraudulently, different for your daughter as she did not know for sure herself even if she had suspicions. But to lie when you do have a diagnosis would make the visa liable to cancellation and the holders given a ban from entering Australia even for a holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobby Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Great advice. That in itself is obtaining a visa fraudulently, different for your daughter as she did not know for sure herself even if she had suspicions. But to lie when you do have a diagnosis would make the visa liable to cancellation and the holders given a ban from entering Australia even for a holiday. But if it is the only way possible that they could get int Oz I personally would go for it, if they do not try they will never get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suziblue Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 Thanks fix, appreciate it! I know what you mean, my son looks and has no physical difficulties so people who don't know him don't ever notice there's anything wrong with him! Suz x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_shel Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Thanks fix, appreciate it! I know what you mean, my son looks and has no physical difficulties so people who don't know him don't ever notice there's anything wrong with him! Suz x There is a document the doctors use when undertaking the medicals. I'll post a link when I've got time to find it. They are looking for developmental delays in children along with loads of other stuff and have spotted it in children before the parents even knew about it. There have been posts on here about that if you search. I'm sure a doctor who is qualified and has a script of what Australia wants them to look for could possibly spot it. I'm a social worker and I spot these things in children all the time and I'm not even medically trained just trained enough in various developmental delays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiz Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Thanks fix, appreciate it! I know what you mean, my son looks and has no physical difficulties so people who don't know him don't ever notice there's anything wrong with him! Suz x This is the guidance that the panel doctors use. You might find it helpful http://www.immi.gov.au/gateways/panel_doctors/conducting_medicals/instructions/panel-doctors-instructions.pdf Fiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anandan Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 This is the guidance that the panel doctors use. You might find it helpful http://www.immi.gov.au/gateways/panel_doctors/conducting_medicals/instructions/panel-doctors-instructions.pdf Fiz Thank you FIZ. great information, really understood the Panel reporting systems,......Grad A and B ; i have ONE EYE only,...and its is 100%,..i drive and do work as normal person without any support or medication,......your opinion please from the PIO site,.....any news u have for me,..[i have submitted my MEDICal reports last week,.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jove Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Oz doesn't want to let in kids with autism(whatever that is) it seems. My sister and her husband had a job offer in Australia - an excellent job with excellent prospects and salary. They have 4 kids, 1 of which has autism. However the Australian government issued everyone a visa expect for the autistic child. They were being sponsored by an Australian company to go there with full citizenship? I think they still could of gone to Australia on a temporary work visa but they wanted citizenship so in the end didn't go. To be honest I don't know all the ins and outs of what visda they applied for and the one they got but in the end they realized that with the visa issued they would have to pay out of their own pocket all medical and special schooling costs for the autistic child. I still think they could of gone and applied for full citizenship afterwards while they were there - but they did not want to take the risk. One thing I am sure about is if their child was not diagnosed Autistic these issues would not of arisen. Was a shame really as the child was very young(in my thoughts too young to be labeled under the umbrella of autism). Anyway hope you have the courage to go if you get the Visa! Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Collins Family Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 My family and I are due to move to Perth in August but as I have a 14 year old son diagnosed with PDD I am starting to realise that this make thigs very difficult for us if we go for citizenship after the 3 year visa runs out. Could anybody tell me if I get my sons Diagnosis removed in the UK before the move would that stop any complications should we wish to stay in Oz. My son really does not match his diagnosis and hasn,t done for some time, He is in mainstream school and recieves very little help there. I would really appreciate any advice on this matter and about the better, smaller schools around Perth that my son would do better in. Thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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