Do people actually listen to others re oz?!

[pablo]

Just stating the obvious i know,BUT.....who can tell what luck oz has in store untill you get there/live there?

I could break my leg in the first week and be unable to work/earn money for 6 months?

On the other hand,,,,,,,,i could fall in with a diamond mate/neighbour who helps me find graft and end up aces?!

Is there anyone else like me who doesnt care what others think?thats NOT meant in a snide/arrogant way btw,but because things do/dont work out for some people doesnt mean they will/wont for others does it? everyone has different goals/wants,nobodies goals/wants are the same.

I honestly have NOT GOT A CLUE if we'l like oz or not,BUT i WONT base my opinion on oz on what others think of oz,coz tbh that wont affect how me and her think of oz will it?

Surely to god youve GOT to go and find out for yerself?or is it just me???:goofy:

[Guest guest36762]

Depends mate

for example, if you read endless threads about what a cultural desert Australia is, and you live in London and frequent lots of cultural activities (this is not me btw), you'd be a bit daft tbh to ignore the elephant in the room and carry on regardless

[Parley]

Agree pablo. Make up your own mind...

 

I find it annoying when some one writes an anti-aus post and it is immediately a great post, and then someone writes an anti-uk post and it is a strange post.

 

Some people are too biased so you need to make up your own mind.

 

On the other hand, if every one agreed PIO would be pretty boring wouldn't it ?

[Petals]

I agree its up to the individuals to make up their own minds.

 

However it seems these days that people want to be sure that they are going to like it therefore they ask others. This is the same as the modern way of having social acceptance of the new hair style, dress, house, car etc.

 

All to do with modern day marketing I believe.

 

Culture seems to have different meanings to different people. So who knows what we are talking about when we mention culture.

[Guest Guest31881]

Everyone needs to make their own minds up, decide what their goals are and seek to achieve them. Some of the anti Australia posts and some of the pro Australia posts can be useful in helping prospective migrants to work out what they expect to find when they get here.

 

It does not take long to work out those members whose pro/anti Australia posts are so predictable that I am sure most members totally ignore them as biased and of no real help at all.

[pablo]

Depends mate

for example, if you read endless threads about what a cultural desert Australia is, and you live in London and frequent lots of cultural activities (this is not me btw), you'd be a bit daft tbh to ignore the elephant in the room and carry on regardless

 

Fair do's h,all depends what yer class as culture tho? i went to the pheonix theatre in london once because i was seeing a girl from kentucky who was into the "arts":rolleyes:,complete and utter sh7te it was(blood brothers),i'd sooner have a scoop with a load of people from broken hill nsw as i did on my reccie,meeting people is far more important than standing there rubbing me chin with me head at a jaunty angle "contemplating things" like a sheep in formaldahide(splg?cba!).

Way too far up themselves the english and THEIR idea of culture imo,i'd put meeting/conversing with people of different backgrounds a thousand times more "cultural" than looking at tracey emins used mice(tampons),but then i dont pretend to be superior /more "deep" than others?crock of shi7e all this culture lark imo,something brought about to make europeans feel superior to others,the ARTS doesnt mean that is culture,culture is lots of things to lots of people,see petri dish..................

[pablo]

Everyone needs to make their own minds up, decide what their goals are and seek to achieve them. Some of the anti Australia posts and some of the pro Australia posts can be useful in helping prospective migrants to work out what they expect to find when they get here.

 

It does not take long to work out those members whose pro/anti Australia posts are so predictable that I am sure most members totally ignore them as biased and of no real help at all.

 

Agree 100% Colin,but ive seen a few posts lately where people have said negative posts have put them off moving to oz,how can people judge THEIR fate on whats happened to others? an "indicator" maybe,but NOT a given,do NOT understand why other people let others make their mind up for them tbh

[Guest The Pom Queen]

I do remember being a member on a forum when we were looking at moving over and I did read the negative posts and think sh7t what are we doing. I also remember the posts where everyone said how wonderful Mornington was and thinking right that's where we have got to live, so yes I do think people can be influenced by the negative posts BUT also by the positive posts.

What people do need to remember and it has been said hundreds of times before is that the people who are living here and enjoying it usually forget about the forum when they arrive, so you don't hear a lot of the positive opinions.

Everyone is different and what works for one doesn't work for all. You have to come and see how you feel, if it doesn't work out then you know that you aren't alone and vice versa if you love it here then there will be others who share your opinions.

[Guest guest36762]

Fair do's h,all depends what yer class as culture tho? i went to the pheonix theatre in london once because i was seeing a girl from kentucky who was into the "arts":rolleyes:,complete and utter sh7te it was(blood brothers),i'd sooner have a scoop with a load of people from broken hill nsw as i did on my reccie,meeting people is far more important than standing there rubbing me chin with me head at a jaunty angle "contemplating things" like a sheep in formaldahide(splg?cba!).

Way too far up themselves the english and THEIR idea of culture imo,i'd put meeting/conversing with people of different backgrounds a thousand times more "cultural" than looking at tracey emins used mice(tampons),but then i dont pretend to be superior /more "deep" than others?

There's that inverted snobbery rearing it's ugly head again:wink:

I'd say you'll be fine with that attitude mate

for me, culture isn't about museums and galleries. It's about the collective experience and character of the people, the humour, the latest thing that's 'in'

from that pov, I don't see much culture in aus apart from all that stuff surrounding the diggers and the Anzac legend, which is becoming out of date and irrelevant. People don't seem to get fired up about anything here, whether it's politics, sport or world affairs. The exceptions being the issue of boat people, which has been shamelessly manipulated by politicians, and the state of the all ords and Aussie dollar.

TV and radio media are completely hopeless: TV being mostly imported American crap which I cannot stand, radio on a spectrum from inanity (mutated to monstrous extremes) to dull and dreary watching the paint dry levels of excitement.

I'd sum it all up with the example of 5 live, it is really enhanced by the contributions of listeners, and it feels like 'something is actually happening'.

[simon and deb]

i think some people need to be told what to do , and are only happy if theyre doing and thinking what everybody else does, or thinks . me i would rather go and find out for myself . been on the sunshine coast for about 5 weeks and really love it :biggrin:

[pablo]

I do remember being a member on a forum when we were looking at moving over and I did read the negative posts and think sh7t what are we doing. I also remember the posts where everyone said how wonderful Mornington was and thinking right that's where we have got to live, so yes I do think people can be influenced by the negative posts BUT also by the positive posts.

What people do need to remember and it has been said hundreds of times before is that the people who are living here and enjoying it usually forget about the forum when they arrive, so you don't hear a lot of the positive opinions.

Everyone is different and what works for one doesn't work for all. You have to come and see how you feel, if it doesn't work out then you know that you aren't alone and vice versa if you love it here then there will be others who share your opinions.

 

 

Exactly Kate,no offence to PIO or the "guidance" it gives,BUT ...............ONLY YOU CAN DECIDE,good OR bad,no offence to others but NO WAY will we let others decide if oz is good OR bad for us,emigrating means being singleminded/strong about what YOU want,not what other people want,if its bad for us i'lsay...good likewise,but its about YOUR happiness,NOT worrying what others think of the effort (or not)youve put in to assimilate.

[Guest chris955]

As I have always said everyone has to make up their own minds and come to their own conclusions. I know some get annoyed about what is seen as anti Aussie posts but equally should we have people saying 'Australia is a much better country' or 'there are far more opportunities in Australia' ? Maybe some are influenced by some posts but they may equally be swayed by overly 'positive' posts.

[pablo]

As I have always said everyone has to make up their own minds and come to their own conclusions. I know some get annoyed about what is seen as anti Aussie posts but equally should we have people saying 'Australia is a much better country' or 'there are far more opportunities in Australia' ? Maybe some are influenced by some posts but they may equally be swayed by overly 'positive' posts.

 

Same rule applies with me,be the posts negative or positive,NOBODY knows how their luck/fate in oz will go till they dock,just suprises me how much stock people put by others experiences in oz(good OR bad),thats all

[Guest sh7t man no way]

research is so important pabs,and people views about there experiences in aus (good,and bad) are an important tool in how you in that situation would deal with the issues that they go throuh--but i agree its all about how you operate in life,and deal with issues--sometime in life its just the luck of the draw:wubclub:

[Guest madplumber2]

Pabs

When I first came on this site, I took a lot of note of what people were saying about different subjets to do with migration to Aus. Some of it turned out to be complete bollox some turned out to be very useful. I think in reality you have to make the best of everything within the migration process and settlement in Australia. Everyone has differing ideas of what Aus should be to them. We've seen and heard of a lot migrants comming over, spending a lot of $$$$ then finding the place isn't for them and returning back to the UK.

 

We came over with the prospect of no jobs and very little money in comparrison to some, but we were prepared to work anywhere or do what was needed to get by (no I've not sold my arse on Brisbane River front). I think people will listen, but in reality they have their own set of thoughts in their head of what and how things should be.

 

madplumber

[olly]

Depends mate

for example, if you read endless threads about what a cultural desert Australia is, and you live in London and frequent lots of cultural activities (this is not me btw), you'd be a bit daft tbh to ignore the elephant in the room and carry on regardless

 

But you and I know that Aus is not a cultural desert Dom, like everything else, you have to take stock and see what is around you. Aus has a history, you have to take an interest in what the history is - like when I go to England I look around for the local history when I arrive in a place, otherwise you could miss that too. Every place has a history and culture - people who say Aus doesn't are not looking hard enough. It is an insult to our indigenous people who have been here 60,000 years.

[Guest Stevebel]

As Chalky says, factual posts are useful. Opinion pieces are just for entertainment.

 

There's a thread knocking around somewhere that contains the actual dollar cost of typical items. That's FAR more valuable - if less entertaining - than the repetitive "Australia is expensive"... "oh no it isn't" threads that keep popping up.

 

Everything else has to be taken with a pinch of salt, and you soon get a feel for the different personalities around here.

[Cerberus1]

Definitely in the 'make your own mind up' camp. Before moving to Cairns a couple of months ago, we lived in Lyndhurst for 5 years, despite the fact that on a report that was released a couple of years ago, it featured in the top 10 worst places in Australia to buy a home! We were perfectly happy there and the property went up in value by about 10% each year. Basically the 'report' (which was widely reported in all the newspapers) was absolute crap. Done by a private company who sell suburb guides at about $90 a pop, using out of date info. With all the press that the report got though, you'd think that the place was Sarajevo, Baghdad etc if you'd never been and just read the online coverage.

[Guest The Ropey HOFF]

I think it would be a good idea, if there was a forum called - vent thy spleen about OZ.

 

this would help the really negative posters allowing them to go in it with each other and get the monkey off their backs and then come in to the main forums and post like the rest of us, obviously you would have to sign up to this forum seperately and you would have to pass a test to join, which would cut out most of the arguing and false information, some negative stuff about Australia makes interesting helpful reading, but not much. Anyone think its a good idea?

[Guest guest36187]

As we have all said many a time, you need negative and positive posts to give a balance of life here. It frustrates the hell out of me that people continually call what others say `misinformation`.

 

Everything that is said is as valid as the next person! They are all opinions. More respect needs to be shown to those opinions.

 

The only facts that you can be sure of are the ones that you find out yourself!

[Guest madplumber2]

I think it would be a good idea, if there was a forum called - vent thy spleen about OZ.

 

this would help the really negative posters allowing them to go in it with each other and get the monkey off their backs and then come in to the main forums and post like the rest of us, obviously you would have to sign up to this forum seperately and you would have to pass a test to join, which would cut out most of the arguing and false information, some negative stuff about Australia makes interesting helpful reading, but not much. Anyone think its a good idea?

 

Eh?:goofy:

[Guest guest36762]

But you and I know that Aus is not a cultural desert Dom, like everything else, you have to take stock and see what is around you. Aus has a history, you have to take an interest in what the history is - like when I go to England I look around for the local history when I arrive in a place, otherwise you could miss that too. Every place has a history and culture - people who say Aus doesn't are not looking hard enough. It is an insult to our indigenous people who have been here 60,000 years.

 

hi olly

hopefully the post after the one you quoted might clarify my thoughts. I doubt you'd agree with the content, but it's how I feel

[Guest The Ropey HOFF]

Eh?:goofy:

 

You will suss it out buddy, you haven't been on long, your caption says your a complete idiot, but i think your having us on, have you been a member before?

[Guest madplumber2]

You will suss it out buddy, you haven't been on long, your caption says your a complete idiot, but i think your having us on, have you been a member before?

 

Blumin hell you catch on quick!

[Guest The Ropey HOFF]

Blumin hell you catch on quick!

 

 

Are you from the good side, or......................... the dark side?:wink: