Onshore applicants from Cat 4 with a job in their nominated occupation inititive

[Guest stayer]

Would anyone support such initiative to ask the Minister to lift onshore Cat 4 applicants with current ongoing job in their nominated occupation to Cat 3?

 

I am trying to find a way to separate the seeds from the weeds, as it is true that many applicants clearly took advantage of the system and having Australian qualification on their PR visa application, they have never worked as IT, cooks or hairdressers...

 

Would such initiative have your support?

 

Yes, it is hard to get a job on bridging visa, but there are options. Get a bloody ABN and work on short term contract at least somewhere near your nominated occupation and don't complain. Many Australian companies only care if you have a work permit and for 3 months there is no binding. And if you don't have a job, prove otherwise you are a benefit to Australia or withdraw your application.

[Guest MOTO]

Like your idea but i am not sure if it's doable. Do you honestly believe that DIAC is going to take on more responsibilities than they already do? They are stretched to the limits with an influx of the boat people and backlog of applications in the pipeline.

What we should be lobbing for is DIAC to recruit more staff. If they had sufficient number of staff to deal with number of applications then there simply would not be CAT4 . As all applications would be finalized within a reasonable period of time.

[Guest langhoatu81]

I think we should be moving to higher processing as we are in the workforce and contribute to Australian economy. why do we have job and work hard regardless to any cat and haven't received any recognition that we are contributing to the Tax system. very stupid system to ignore all our efforts. I'm tired of wating for PR so just keep working and enjoy my time and forget about bloody PR whenever it's coming, it's coming.

[Guest stayer]

I don't see a lot of replies. Does it mean that most of people waiting in Cat 4 are not employed in their nominated occupation?

[Guest swan2748]

I don't see a lot of replies. Does it mean that most of people waiting in Cat 4 are not employed in their nominated occupation?

 

I am sure there are many ... at least in ICT... look at this thread

 

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/91106-2231-79-computing-professional-ict-recent-graduate-new-priority.html

 

However, we have recently received some positive news from DIAC and everyone is busy trying to get into cat 3 according to the new directive.

 

If you had started this thread a few weeks ago you would have been inundated with responses.

 

Still I believe this is a very good initiative and would help many people so we should keep this thread alive. I assume many cat 4 people have practically given up and are not actively looking for information.

[Guest On the coast]

I'am sure there are lots of people not working in their field. Cooks,hairdressers are mainly on part-time,casual hrs and low pay. You can get more money cleaning hotel rooms. I know lots of people who came from the UK with PR, and quite a few are not working in their field .People will always look for something else if pay and conditions are better.

[Guest langhoatu81]

I don't see a lot of replies. Does it mean that most of people waiting in Cat 4 are not employed in their nominated occupation?

 

I think most of Cat 4 are in workforce though because this is the lowest priority processing so in able to get PR and survive, most of us have to work our butts off in our field. don't worry mate, Cat 4 has a high rate of people working in Australia..it's not from statistic but i can feel it...

[Guest pippa1]

Hi there

 

Yeah, I am cat 4 ,working in nominated occupation and have been on bridging visa A for 2 years. Its not that I don't agree with you, but I am exhausted by it all, I have contacted everyone, federal MP's, state MP's, DIAC, Ombudsman and anyone else who could possibly help me secure a visa or even state sponsorship.

 

I have got no where; I don't think the Minister is aware of people in our situation and even if he was I don't think he has the time to care.

 

I have tried the ENS route to no avail; even that would be difficult on a bridging visa as you have to pay again and do offshore application.

 

I wish you all the best in your ventures and hope you have more luck than me :biggrin:

[Guest perry]

Hi there everyone....

Just saw ur thread and wanted to post my comments as i feel very much related to the situation. I have been working in my nominated field as a chef in a reputed sydney hotel. I hae been working in my fiels for last 4 years and applied for sub class 886 in dec 2008 and been waiting since then. I do know many of my friends who are still working in thier field after applying for thier PR... i only hope someone looks into our category soon...best of luck guys.

[Guest langhoatu81]

To papa1 and all cat 4

I understand your exhaustion as i'm on of them too. have been waiting for nearly 2 bloody years..hehe no where near that my application will be touched any sooner too. but I don't really care why you have to care when you have many other things to accomplish. I have to work so hard so I don't even have time to think about my visa anymore, sometimes nearly forgot that i'm still waiting so just forget about visa for now..just keep doing what you are doing now then it'll be fine. why you have to think about that everyday..haha think about some chicks around would better help...anyone has the same idea?..let me know:biggrin:

[Guest pippa1]

Hi there

 

I take it you don't have kids, because if you did you would think about it every day!!! $10000pa international school fees for each child certainly makes you think.....

[Guest langhoatu81]

Ouch, that's a big deal brother.. sorry to hear you have a family burden on your shoulder.. however you already know the risk when you decided to apply for PR so it's no point to complain about it anyway. the same situation when you have PR one day, then all welfare services you will receive from government then who should be complaining then may be aussie government hahaha...just take it easy and be positive. stress and tiredness don't give you PR either...and good luck anyway..same as mine haha

[Guest TheStig]

End of the day, its the Govt's job to protect local jobs. If there are local cooks and hair dressers and IT profs around why would they want to bring it overseas talent? They have came up with a new SOL based on the jobs that need people and can't be filled by the locals. For them it dosen't matter if we got a job in the nominated field or not.

[Guest Manj]

Hi there

 

I take it you don't have kids, because if you did you would think about it every day!!! $10000pa international school fees for each child certainly makes you think.....

 

 

Hey pippa...just to get an idea... are the kids in Private school here??? Why are you paying the International fee??? If you don't mind me asking what your Visa category is because there were some recent relaxation on school fees for kids like eligibility for gov. grants etc...etc...

[Guest swan2748]

End of the day, its the Govt's job to protect local jobs. If there are local cooks and hair dressers and IT profs around why would they want to bring it overseas talent? They have came up with a new SOL based on the jobs that need people and can't be filled by the locals. For them it dosen't matter if we got a job in the nominated field or not.

But people who are already here and working in their nominated field are not taking jobs away from locals! They are actually contributing to solve the skills shortage, so this should be considered I think rather than looking at what occupations are in demand. These (cat 4) occupations are not in demand currently(and removed from SOL) because many cat 4 applicants are already working in these occupations so there are less vacancies. DIAC should look at this issue from this angle as well.

[Guest pippa1]

Hi all

I understand the 'stop complaining' argument and the 'you knew the risks' line, but when I applied for my 886 in Dec 08 the service charter stated 6-9 months for my application to be processed and my decision to apply was based on the available information at the time. I don't think I have a right to a visa, but I think I have a right to be treated fairly.... Its a whole different ball game when you have family, and not so easy to uproute etc...

 

I am working on the school fee situation (Manj is it ok if I PM you) and will wait for a decision on my application in the meantime, but please don't give me a hard time:sad:

[Guest tyasawa]

It would be a beneficial initiative for some, including myself. However, the implementation would be hard, there would be many aspects for DIAC to check, similar to those needed for ENS. [Probably that is why they want to promote ENS]. Thus, I can not see this would ever take place. How about making ENS requirements make more sense? (esp how we can't apply for onshore one) And plus with no cost for existing applicants on the pipeline *dreaming*

 

My bf and myself both have been working in our nominated occupation (ICT Recent Grad) since we graduated 2 years ago and yes, like many of you we are both still waiting for any decision... (hoping that the latest news from DIAC and ACS will end all this).

 

But people who are already here and working in their nominated field are not taking jobs away from locals! They are actually contributing to solve the skills shortage, so this should be considered I think rather than looking at what occupations are in demand. These (cat 4) occupations are not in demand currently(and removed from SOL) because many cat 4 applicants are already working in these occupations so there are less vacancies. DIAC should look at this issue from this angle as well.

 

It would be interesting to see how many onshore cat 4 are working in their nominated occupation. If I remember correctly there was a statistic about employment and visa subclass thing published on immi website, I couldn't find it tho, is there anything about bridging visa holder? I wonder if DIAC ever take this into consideration at all.

[Guest Manj]

Hi all

I understand the 'stop complaining' argument and the 'you knew the risks' line, but when I applied for my 886 in Dec 08 the service charter stated 6-9 months for my application to be processed and my decision to apply was based on the available information at the time. I don't think I have a right to a visa, but I think I have a right to be treated fairly.... Its a whole different ball game when you have family, and not so easy to uproute etc...

 

I am working on the school fee situation (Manj is it ok if I PM you) and will wait for a decision on my application in the meantime, but please don't give me a hard time:sad:

 

 

Yes Pippa you could PM me...in the mean time I will look up the pdf about the school fee relaxation, I'm sure if you applied for 886 is eligible for gov. funding!!

[Guest Manj]

As I promised Pippa... here you go

 

http://www.det.wa.edu.au/education/schoolinfo/docs/Semester2Forms/Eligibility_Criteria_-_Per_Capita_-_August_2010.pdf

 

Even if the kids go to private school if you have applied for an 885/6 you are eligible for Gov. grants.

 

I send my kids to private school too (not bluffing here) and I don't pay the international rate but the normal resident rate.

 

IMO - Its pretty high though comparatively to the Gov. and Christian schools but still there are positives!!

 

:biggrin:

 

Hope this helps mate!

[Guest pippa1]

Hi Manj

 

Thanks for posting the link, unfortunately I am in Qld, and the state and Catholic schools have no concessions or waivers for international school fees (unless exceptional hardship due to unforseeable circumstances i.e terminal illness in family etc).

 

Believe me I have tried!!

 

I will just hang on to the hope that maybe one day they will get to Cat 4.....

 

Thanks anyway:biggrin:

[Guest Manj]

Hi Manj

 

Thanks for posting the link, unfortunately I am in Qld, and the state and Catholic schools have no concessions or waivers for international school fees (unless exceptional hardship due to unforseeable circumstances i.e terminal illness in family etc).

 

Believe me I have tried!!

 

I will just hang on to the hope that maybe one day they will get to Cat 4.....

 

Thanks anyway:biggrin:

 

 

Oh...damm it!! so sorry to hear that ... anyways good luck - hope they start processing Cat 4's soon!!!