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Hello Eera,im new to these forums so im not sure how they work, but they have been very helpful so far about the opportunities in queensland and WA,Id like to get into things as a drillers offsider.could you help.you can send me a private message or email,im not sure how the system works on this forum but i hope you have time to reply.many thanks.Simon

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Hi Simon. You'll need a HR licence at the very minimum. Here in QLD you can do a Cert 2 in drilling which is designed for newbies and takes you through the whole mining process in a 2 week course (you'll have to google it, I can't remember the name of the provider, they're in Cairns and Brisbane). It's one of the few "mining" training courses that actually hold a bit of chop with the industry and we've put our own offsiders through it.

 

Once you've got that start targeting the big drilling boys like Lucas, Pheonix, Macdrill and send out CVs, as I've said before, they have a fairly high turnover of offsiders (because it's hard work) and if you've got cert 2 it saves them the expense of putting you through it and risking you quitting and wasting the money.

 

To join in the geo job convo, it certainly can be an interesting way to see the world. In Bowen Basin coal it's a bit dull though; Quaternary, Tertiary overburden, unconfomity, Permian sandstone/siltstone, black stuff (repeat ad infinitum). I was at one point mining a dormant volcano for gold in PNG, periodic gas explosions used to enliven the truckies' jobs occasionally, and we had a surveyor fall into a blast hole with 80 degree water in it, but is was way cool geology and possibly the only time having done a PhD in volcanism ever came in handy.

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To join in the geo job convo, it certainly can be an interesting way to see the world. In Bowen Basin coal it's a bit dull though; Quaternary, Tertiary overburden, unconfomity, Permian sandstone/siltstone, black stuff (repeat ad infinitum). I was at one point mining a dormant volcano for gold in PNG, periodic gas explosions used to enliven the truckies' jobs occasionally, and we had a surveyor fall into a blast hole with 80 degree water in it, but is was way cool geology and possibly the only time having done a PhD in volcanism ever came in handy.

 

Sounds fun well apart from the surveyor. Coal still sounds more interesting the iron ore lol. Still i am currently on a gold mine were the gold is not associated with quartz, in fact it is generally quite the opposite.

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Is it placer deposit? Iron ore never struck me as being particularly interesting; it always seemed to me that you could do the mining with a big vacuum cleaner and not bother with the geo work too much : "if it's red, dig it up and sell it." (I apologise to iron ore geos if you're mortally offended by that and I'm completely wrong). Hanging off the drill rigs in coal is pretty dull but periodically made more interesting by recovering some perfect Glossopteris fossils in the core. Finding geotech much better and would dearly love to move into drill and blast but small children have ended my full time site career now.

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Is it placer deposit? Iron ore never struck me as being particularly interesting; it always seemed to me that you could do the mining with a big vacuum cleaner and not bother with the geo work too much : "if it's red, dig it up and sell it." (I apologise to iron ore geos if you're mortally offended by that and I'm completely wrong). Hanging off the drill rigs in coal is pretty dull but periodically made more interesting by recovering some perfect Glossopteris fossils in the core. Finding geotech much better and would dearly love to move into drill and blast but small children have ended my full time site career now.

 

No underground i use the word hard rock loosely but yeah the orebody is in ultramafics. From what i know iron ore still needs drilling and blasting but i have seen in the mine mags someone using more of a surface continuous miner style equipment. However i agree it is more of a model it and then let the pit run type of situation. I also would really like to do drill and blast it seems really interesting but i have been told that you need an engineering background. Is it true? I know at the moment from my previous work i have more drill and blast experience than the grad engineer who thinks charging 2 development faces is enough experience to be able to design blasts.

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My experience is that there's such a lack of mining engineers that if you show an interest in that side of things they're more than willing to train you up. I did a shotfiring certificate and the store, handle and transport explosives one as well, then came to the realisation that it's very rare the shottie actually designs the blast.

 

We have applications from people who have been employed as project geologists by labour supply companies who don't actually have a geology degree - we've had geographers, architects and environmental engineers come from the same mob simply because there's not enough professionals to go around. Frankly if I was the senior geo I'd be getting up the labour supply company.

 

Certainly the big boys of the industry will put their geos through a mining engineering masters if you ask nicely, I know several people who have gone through the course at Curtin free via their companies.

 

Has your ultramafic gone through a heap of metasomatism or is the gold syngenetic? I have a large chunk of lherzolite with marble-sized chromite nodules (from the Great Dyke of Zimbabwe) at home. Can't every recall talk of mining ultramafic for gold though, but then again my resources lecturer was very, very dull.

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Yeah normally the engineers design the stope blasts here and charge up does the development with no real plan. I have a msc in mine geology which has some engineering in there so i already have the foundations for some of it, i don't know if i could go back to a uni again and study lol.

 

Basically the current rough genetic model for this place is that the Main lode occupies a shear zone, which has dislocated and brecciated sulphidic interflow sediments. Then a gold rich Potassic alteration fluid came through the zone causing intense biotite and chlorite alteration recrystallising the Ultramafic rock. The Gold emplacement possibly took place due to rheological contrast around harder metasediment fragments and/or chemical reaction with iron rich sulphidic metasediments. This is up for some debate as we are A-typical of the deposits around here and from what i can tell everywhere else. We do have CSIRO working on it to find out what has happened.

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Basically the current rough genetic model for this place is that the Main lode occupies shear zone, which has dislocated and brecciated sulphidic interflow sediments. Potassic alteration fluid came through recrystallising the UM with intense biotite and chlorite alteration. The Gold emplacement due to rheological contrast around harder metasediment fragments and/or chemical reaction with iron rich sulphidic metasediments.

 

 

 

What language are you speaking. lol:biggrin:

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Basically the current rough genetic model for this place is that the Main lode occupies shear zone, which has dislocated and brecciated sulphidic interflow sediments. Potassic alteration fluid came through recrystallising the UM with intense biotite and chlorite alteration. The Gold emplacement due to rheological contrast around harder metasediment fragments and/or chemical reaction with iron rich sulphidic metasediments.

 

 

 

What language are you speaking. lol:biggrin:

ya sound very clever plaything:yes:
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Yeah normally the engineers design the stope blasts here and charge up does the development with no real plan. I have a msc in mine geology which has some engineering in there so i already have the foundations for some of it, i don't know if i could go back to a uni again and study lol.

 

Basically the current rough genetic model for this place is that the Main lode occupies a shear zone, which has dislocated and brecciated sulphidic interflow sediments. Then a gold rich Potassic alteration fluid came through the zone causing intense biotite and chlorite alteration recrystallising the Ultramafic rock. The Gold emplacement possibly took place due to rheological contrast around harder metasediment fragments and/or chemical reaction with iron rich sulphidic metasediments. This is up for some debate as we are A-typical of the deposits around here and from what i can tell everywhere else. We do have CSIRO working on it to find out what has happened.

 

If there is one thing i have learned it is that there are more "A" typical deposits than typical lol. That and when the industry thinks an area is unlikely to be Au hosting purely based on geology, it may well be wrong. I worked on the Tropicana discovery team. An area which everyone assumed would never host gold (grantic gneiss in a mobile belt). 7 million Oz says they were wrong.

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  • 6 months later...

Hi! Just arrived in Australia aiming to work in mining industry. I'm a female, gemologist (with 6 months experience in education and 1 year experience in lab research/field gemology) with no HD license. I'm seeking mostly in WA. Any luck regarding my profile?

Cheers

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Hi! Just arrived in Australia aiming to work in mining industry. I'm a female, gemologist (with 6 months experience in education and 1 year experience in lab research/field gemology) with no HD license. I'm seeking mostly in WA. Any luck regarding my profile?

Cheers

 

Are you aware that WA only has one diamond mine? They announced redundancies yesterday. Opal mining is carried out, but it is very small scale - largely individuals with a pick.

 

Also, diamond mines will require a degree, plus usually a DeBeers accreditation.

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Job help !

Hi everybody.

 

 

Just looking for some advice or leads at getting me my dream job, sad as it sounds !

 

 

Im currently living in Perth but move to Queensland at Xmas depending on work.

I work in the civil construction industry operating plant, laying pipes etc and I've got plenty of experience.

Back in the Uk I hold my supervisors certificate and have just completed a year at college doing my first qual in site management.

 

 

Despite having previous experience of working on a rural quarry in NSW for 12 months I'm struggling to find a job here on one of the larger remote civil projects or gas lines or even mines, anywhere that I can get my head down and earn some dollars!

 

 

people keep saying permanent residents only and that I need a hr license.

 

 

Just wondering if anyone had any advice or new of any of the better companies to get in touch with.

 

 

thanks

 

 

danny

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Hi Danny

 

I can only comment on mining.

 

It is hard for anyone to break into mining at the moment as there have in the last 12 months been a number of redundacies in the mining industry. So your chasing jobs up against people with experience.

 

The issue is your visa. I believe you are on a WHV. This is a major problem. You can only work for an employer for 6 months. Inductions for mining companies can be a month. Training is then upto a couple of months. So, with only 3 months of actual work, it isnt worth it for them.

 

There are also issues with mining in QLD. Most of the mining is coal and this requires very particular tickets, without which you can not enter a coal mine.

 

Lastly, there are issues with being a plant operator. It isnt the same as the equipment used in mining - a face shovel might look like a normal loader, but a normal loader can be fitted into the bucket of a face shovel!

 

The main industry job site is infomine.com and go to the careers section.

 

Good look with your hunt.

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Thanks your info mate. New it was all to good to be true about getting on !

 

Ill prob just stick too civil works then instead, is there plenty of work in the regional remote areas for that do you know?

 

I hear of jobs starting off, setting up the infrastructure for new mines that are fifo.

 

Again any agencies or companies specialise in this ? Sorry for the questions just hard to get any real info from people I know over here.

 

cheers

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Hi everyone,

Am Shankar from India, completed graduation in mining engineering in June 2018.

Wish to continue further education in mining. 

Can anybody suggest or guide me to choose better university for masters.

Anybody applied for universities as an international student in Australia.? 

Or 

Anyone studying in the university as an international student in mining..

Please suggest me better university to study and later render work opportunities in the field..

Thank you ?

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Hi everyone,

Am Shankar from India, completed graduation in mining engineering in June 2018.

Wish to continue further education in mining. 

Can anybody suggest or guide me to choose better university for masters.

Anybody applied for universities as an international student in Australia.? 

Or 

Anyone studying in the university as an international student in mining..

Please suggest me better university to study and later render work opportunities in the field..

Thank you ?

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6 hours ago, Ravi Shankar said:

Hi everyone,

Am Shankar from India, completed graduation in mining engineering in June 2018.

Wish to continue further education in mining. 

Can anybody suggest or guide me to choose better university for masters.

Anybody applied for universities as an international student in Australia.? 

Or 

Anyone studying in the university as an international student in mining..

Please suggest me better university to study and later render work opportunities in the field..

Thank you ?

Probably would be a good idea to study at one of the universities in Western Australia. Curtin?

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On 5 September 2018 at 18:40, Ravi Shankar said:

Hi everyone,

Am Shankar from India, completed graduation in mining engineering in June 2018.

Wish to continue further education in mining. 

Can anybody suggest or guide me to choose better university for masters.

Anybody applied for universities as an international student in Australia.? 

Or 

Anyone studying in the university as an international student in mining..

Please suggest me better university to study and later render work opportunities in the field..

Thank you ?

But to consider the chance of post grad employment may be nil

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