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I think it might have been. Not sure though - was just tagging along! Defo a bowling club though. Blue carpet if that provides any clues? :-)

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Guest Ems76

Having read all of the posts re: cost of living I am wondering if it is totally affected by where you live/d in the U.K. We are right on the south coast of England and All of the price comparisons I have done suggest that everything in Oz will be cheaper or at least the same! A matchbox of a house here will set you back £200K!

Anyway I dont care! We want to move there for the sunshine and outdoors lifestyle!

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Guest chris955

If that is what you have found I would suggest your comparisons are quite wrong to be honest.

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If that is what you have found I would suggest your comparisons are quite wrong to be honest.

 

You are entitled to your opinion but FACT they are correct ....... as I said I only compared the costs where I live in the uk which I know is one of the pricier parts! ....... The move is all abot quality of life to us anyway!:tongue:

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You are entitled to your opinion but FACT they are correct ....... as I said I only compared the costs where I live in the uk which I know is one of the pricier parts! ....... The move is all abot quality of life to us anyway!:tongue:

 

The problem is you have said something positive about Australia, and chris can't hadle that....... It's just all bad, bad, bad. And the Uk wins every time.

 

BTW what do you know about where you live? you only live there, please get your facts from google or from a mate on when you were last there LOL


Kind Regards

 

Geoffrey (32, an aussie!!), Tracy (35), Jake (7), Jessica (2) & Joseph (1) :jiggy:

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Guest chris955

My point is that it just goes against what almost everyone is saying, that the UK is cheaper. Sorry.

 

You are entitled to your opinion but FACT they are correct ....... as I said I only compared the costs where I live in the uk which I know is one of the pricier parts! ....... The move is all abot quality of life to us anyway!:tongue:

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You are entitled to your opinion but FACT they are correct ....... as I said I only compared the costs where I live in the uk which I know is one of the pricier parts! ....... The move is all abot quality of life to us anyway!:tongue:

 

 

without wishing to jump in to an argument, Ems, if you are not out here already, you need be careful assuming everything is cheaper.

 

Things that are more expensive include food, cars, meals out, drinks in bars, drinks from off-licenses (with the possible exception of low end wines), toiletries, medicines, healthcare, clothes, shoes, bedding and possibly cleaning products.

When I use the word expensive I mean a) they cost more than they did in the UK from a pound vs dollar perspective and b) they cost a larger percent of my annual salary than the equivalent product did in the UK. I am in quite a good position to compare apples with apples in this case as I do the same job for the same company over here as I did in the UK.

Houses may appear cheaper, but certainly, where I am living in Melbourne, a cheap house equals long commute. Aus towns are VERY spread out, much more so than the UK. In terms of comparables, I rented a town centre flat in Reading in the UK for about 725 pounds per month. Over here, I am paying $3K per month for 2 bed flat. OK, it is a bit bigger and has a balcony, but aside from that there is not much difference – in fact, the Reading flat was in a lot better condition....... Also, interest rates are a lot higher here than they are in the UK so if you buy a place your mortgage will cost you more than the equivalent mortgage would in the UK.

That said, I am not trying to put you off. Aus is a great place and you will love it here. Just do not assume it will be cheap J

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The following thread has some comparisons and maybe of some use:

 

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/news-gossip-chat/80962-ok-so-what-expensive-cheap-australia.html

 

Cars are maybe more expensive as they age less quickly?

 

If you use today's exchange rate most things will seem expensive, but if you are working in Australia, at today's exchange rate you may appear to earn much more than in the UK. So it is swings and roundabouts.

 

(I'll get shot down) but maybe try using a nominal exchange rate of 2.3 for your comparison.

 

 

Im not sure how you can make this one fly if you are moving from the uk then you are only getting 1.60 for your pound ad thats the bare facts ...

why would you think that would equate to 2.30..

Its not a case of what you are getting in the uk pound to doller, Its the fact that people are earning the same wages in Australia as they were earning back in the UK and there outgoings here have more than doubled...

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Im not sure how you can make this one fly if you are moving from the uk then you are only getting 1.60 for your pound ad thats the bare facts ...

why would you think that would equate to 2.30..

Its not a case of what you are getting in the uk pound to doller, Its the fact that people are earning the same wages in Australia as they were earning back in the UK and there outgoings here have more than doubled...

 

Am sorry to let you know that OUR outgoings have nowhere near doubled.............in fact they are much less than in the UK and we are on higher wages here too!!!

 

Yvonne

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The car prices must have come down a hell of a lot in the UK then since I last lived there.

 

I wonder if that price is before or after MOT though.

 

 

You still have rego here and if you dont pay your rego on time you have to put your car through the equivelant of an mot

a mot will only cost you 40 quid in the uk if your cars road worthy... would cost you a lot more than that here.

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Am sorry to let you know that OUR outgoings have nowhere near doubled.............in fact they are much less than in the UK and we are on higher wages here too!!!

 

Yvonne

 

 

if you have read the majority of the posts on this site you will see that you are in the minority.. we are an average household my husband is a brickie he is earning less here than the uk and our rent here is double what our morgage was back home also our bills are a lot more and our shopping has doubled... im not sure were you were shoping back home mabey marks & spencer but pound to doller we get a lot less here for our buck.. compareing asda to woolies.. do an online shop for both and see how that works out...

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Our 2 bed flat is around $380k or getting on for 200k pounds. We have no chance of being able to buy, particularly as you pay huge sums in stamp duties, insurances to protect the mortgage company etc an are considering going back to the UK as we can now afford to buy there (if we can get jobs).

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if youve read the majority of the posts on this site you will see that you are in the minority.. we are an average household my husband is a brickie he is earning less and our rent here is double our morgage back home also our bills are a lot mor and our shopping has doubled... im not sure were you were shoping back home but pound to doller we get a lot less her for our buck like say compareing asda to woolies.. do an online shop for both and see how that works out...

 

No sorry.............you said people here are earning less than they were in the UK and their outgoings have doubled..............that might be the case for you but its def not the case for everyone now is it...........and why the hell would I want to do an online shop to compare prices............I earn $'s now not pounds and I also live in Australia not UK thankyou.

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Yeah but we pay a lot of tomatoes and bananas here in WA:cry:

Ironic seeing as they are grown here. "Buy Australian"... captive market, just like everything else = expensive.

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Ironic seeing as they are grown here. "Buy Australian"... captive market, just like everything else = expensive.

 

Free, free, free. Well, in my back yard, mate. 14 banana plants...I tell a fib one got blown down in the last cyclone...:arghh:

 

Cheers, Bobj.

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No sorry.............you said people here are earning less than they were in the UK and their outgoings have doubled..............that might be the case for you but its def not the case for everyone now is it...........and why the hell would I want to do an online shop to compare prices............I earn $'s now not pounds and I also live in Australia not UK thankyou.

 

 

Like i said tou are in the minority.. I did not convey that i thought everyone is in the same boat just most average households I can asure you that wages here for most are comparible with the uk if not less.. if YOUR outgoings have not doubled then you must be a real thrifty shopper.. doing an online shop to compare is a good way of confirming MY statement that I think you are paying more here than in the uk for goods..... a case of beer costs on average 40 dollers about 25 uk pounds now what planet do you have to be on not to know that is more tha double what you pay in the uk...

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Like i said tou are in the minority.. I did not convey that i thought everyone is in the same boat just most average households I can asure you that wages here for most are comparible with the uk if not less.. if YOUR outgoings have not doubled then you must be a real thrifty shopper.. doing an online shop to compare is a good way of confirming MY statement that I think you are paying more here than in the uk for goods..... a case of beer costs on average 40 dollers about 25 uk pounds now what planet do you have to be on not to know that is more tha double what you pay in the uk...

 

Well rather than complaining about it go back to the UK then and you might stop moaning then eh

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Like i said tou are in the minority.. I did not convey that i thought everyone is in the same boat just most average households I can asure you that wages here for most are comparible with the uk if not less.. if YOUR outgoings have not doubled then you must be a real thrifty shopper.. doing an online shop to compare is a good way of confirming MY statement that I think you are paying more here than in the uk for goods..... a case of beer costs on average 40 dollers about 25 uk pounds now what planet do you have to be on not to know that is more tha double what you pay in the uk...

 

A very great percentage of the Grog group make their own...Brewing beer is a very satisfying hobby and very cheap to do. It used to cost me $13-$16 a fortnight to brew 26 big bottles. You should try it sometime...

Jo and I are pensioners and manage quite well on our weekly grocery 'spree':wink: It costs us 2 about $115 - $125 a week for ALL our groceries.

 

Cheers, Bobj.

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I put it down to pubs here being more like American bars where you just go to drink rather than in the UK where they seem to be places where people go to socialise, have a nice meal and a few drinks. The vast majority of pubs I have been to here are very sterile places with little atmosphere.

 

Ahhh, the great difference between Australia and the Uk...You lot go to pubs to find a 'social' life; we invite friends over to join in and have a barbeque...

 

Cheers, Bobj.

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Well rather than complaining about it go back to the UK then and you might stop moaning then eh

 

 

 

 

 

What a childish and rude response.. as per usial the bare truth is now moaning...

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What a childish and rude response.. as per usial the bare truth is now moaning...

 

:jiggy::jiggy:

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Ahhh, the great difference between Australia and the Uk...You lot go to pubs to find a 'social' life; we invite friends over to join in and have a barbeque...

 

Cheers, Bobj.

Personally it was very seldom I went to a pub back in the UK Bob, we socialised at home but even that I found very expensive because usually it was us that forked out:mad:... here we have the bedrooms and the space available to entertain quite a few people, the Aussies are a generous lot, always bringing meat their own grog, and of course the fish is free. Our social life is far better here for sure :wubclub: Susie x

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A very great percentage of the Grog group make their own...Brewing beer is a very satisfying hobby and very cheap to do. It used to cost me $13-$16 a fortnight to brew 26 big bottles. You should try it sometime...

Jo and I are pensioners and manage quite well on our weekly grocery 'spree':wink: It costs us 2 about $115 - $125 a week for ALL our groceries.

 

Cheers, Bobj.

 

Ive been brewing my own for months.. have a coopers draught a mexican cervesa and an alcoholic ginger beer bottled and a european lager in primary... we are a family of 4 we buy mostly home brand and watch for specials for meat and chicken and fish veg and fruit.. but it is still in the rgion of 230 dollrs a week for shopping..

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Personally it was very seldom I went to a pub back in the UK Bob, we socialised at home but even that I found very expensive because usually it was us that forked out:mad:... here we have the bedrooms and the space available to entertain quite a few people, the Aussies are a generous lot, always bringing meat their own grog, and of course the fish is free. Our social life is far better here for sure :wubclub: Susie x

 

Yes, but it aint coral trout, or barra, or red emperor...:tongue:

 

Cheers. Bobj.

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I have to agree with rachellh about the crazy car prices. I wanted a little run around until we got on our feet but there's not much in Perth for cheap. I paid $3600 for a little Hyundai Lantra that's 11 years old! For that car in the UK you'd struggle to get £500 for it.

 

If I was earning 50% more than I was in the UK then Perth might be affordable but the reality is that I'm doing the same job as I was back at home and the money's exactly the same so I am worse off financially here than I was at home.

 

If you left the UK a few years ago when it was still booming then I can understand why you would believe that Australia is not much more expensive than the UK. I have only just left the UK a few months ago when it was in the middle of the 'credit crunch' and I can guarantee that the crazy prices of a few years ago have all but disappeared. Supermarkets are fighting for business and therefore shopping is cheap now. Pound shops are springing up everywhere and selling quality products unlike they did years ago when everything was a quid for a reason! For example, I was buying Charles Worthington hair care products and Roc foundation which are bloody expensive here but I was paying £1 for them! It really has gone that crazy back at home!

 

Also with housing there are more affordable options for first time buyers to get on the property ladder in the UK. You can sill get a 3 bed terrace in the North for £50,000 within a 5-10 mile radius of a large city (if you don't believe that then look on the rightmove website) but I haven't found anything like that in Perth. I know those areas wouldn't be the most desirable places to live but it's an option for those who don't have loads of money to own their own homes. I have never seen anything like that in Perth in any areas, desirbale or not, new or old. I personally don't think that a house in the £150,000 - £200,000 price range is an affordable option for a first time buyer or a young family on one wage whether you look at it $ or £.

 

 

a lot of others are of the exact same opinion.............

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