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8 hours ago, LindaH27 said:

Certainly not upset-  just seemed strange and wondered why. Anyway she will have to wait for 5 years before she can apply for partner visa 

I think the condition referred to above is not on the parent visa itself, but on the partner visa instead, which eligible sponsor must not have sponsored another person or been sponsored during the last 5 years, so you need to check the eligibility criteria of the partner visa or any visa you want to apply to confirm.


143 Visa lodged and acknowledged: 18/05/2015, Document request invitation: 18/12/2017

AoS lodged: 20/12/2017, interviewed: 08/05/2018 (~19-20 weeks) -- declaration letter requested, bond paid: 18/05/2018, acceptance letter: 13/07/2018

2nd VAC Payment Request: 05/11/2018, Visa granted: 07/11/2018

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32 minutes ago, Peter2 said:

I think the condition referred to above is not on the parent visa itself, but on the partner visa instead, which eligible sponsor must not have sponsored another person or been sponsored during the last 5 years, so you need to check the eligibility criteria of the partner visa or any visa you want to apply to confirm.

An agent posted quite some time ago that this loophole was now closed. 

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1 hour ago, Mily said:

When immi grant pr for her, if there is no condition attached to the visa then no worries. She can marry & sponsor for her partner straight away. 

the condition which you have to wait for 5 yrs normally applied to the case that only 1 parent come to Aus first while their partner still living in their country. As Linda said immi know people wanna reduce the cost for both you know.

No conditions attached to her and my mom visa as well . 


visa 173 Lodged 23 April 2015 .All documents, medicals ,Police clearance certificate submitted 23 March 2018

2ND VAC PAID 27 JUNE  2018

AT LAST VISA GRANTED 04/07/218?

143 applied in sept 2018

Aos applied 26 sept 2019

Bank guarantee requested 6 jan 2019

Bank guarantee done 9 jan 2019

bank guarantee submitted 9 jan 2019

request for 2nd Vac 15 jan  2019

Second vac paid 17 jan 2019

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25 minutes ago, sh aron said:

No conditions attached to her and my mom visa as well . 

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/partner-onshore/temporary-820#Eligibility

(Select Sponsors, then Limitations on sponsorship)

Contributory Parent visa holders

You can’t usually sponsor someone for this visa if you:

  • were granted a Contributory Parent visa after 30 June 2009 and
  • the applicant was your spouse or de facto partner before we granted you that visa, and
  • it has been less than 5 years since we granted you that visa

 

Best regards.


Managing Director, Go Matilda Visas - www.gomatilda.com

Registered Migration Agent Number 0102534; Registered Tax Agent (Australia)

Chartered Accountant (UK, and Australia)

T - 023 81 66 11 55 (UK) or 03 9935 2929 (Australia)

E - alan.collett@gomatilda.com

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1 hour ago, ramot said:

An agent posted quite some time ago that this loophole was now closed. 

No, it is still a condition for the Partner (not parent)Visas, so one cannot sponsor multiple partners, just two and they must be 5 years apart.

 

The loophole that was closed was that if one person in a marriage was granted a Parent Visa, they could not then sponsor their other half on a Partner Visa - a huge well-exploited loophole that saved many people many thousands of dollars.

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I would like to understand more about the Assurance of Support.

I understand the assurer promises to pay back for government supports. However, I do not know what is included or not included, i.e. what do we pay back. Are health care, concessions etc. included or just income support? I am so dumb about this. Thanks


12/01/16: 134 application acknowledged            13/01/16: 1st payment received                           04/11/19: Request for more information
12/11/19: Passports & IDs to PVC team               13/11/19: Health Examinations done            15/11/19: AOS Application submitted  (MyGov)        
29/11/19: PCC to PVC team                                     04/12/19: Form80 to PVC team                          20/01/20: AOS bank guarantee paid

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1 minute ago, AlwaysVet said:

I would like to understand more about the Assurance of Support.

I understand the assurer promises to pay back for government supports. However, I do not know what is included or not included, i.e. what do we pay back. Are health care, concessions etc. included or just income support? I am so dumb about this. Thanks

https://guides.dss.gov.au/guide-social-security-law/9/4/1/10

Best regards.

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Managing Director, Go Matilda Visas - www.gomatilda.com

Registered Migration Agent Number 0102534; Registered Tax Agent (Australia)

Chartered Accountant (UK, and Australia)

T - 023 81 66 11 55 (UK) or 03 9935 2929 (Australia)

E - alan.collett@gomatilda.com

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11 minutes ago, Alan Collett said:

Thanks, Alan. That's a very quick response. I will read it.

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12/01/16: 134 application acknowledged            13/01/16: 1st payment received                           04/11/19: Request for more information
12/11/19: Passports & IDs to PVC team               13/11/19: Health Examinations done            15/11/19: AOS Application submitted  (MyGov)        
29/11/19: PCC to PVC team                                     04/12/19: Form80 to PVC team                          20/01/20: AOS bank guarantee paid

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3 hours ago, Nemesis said:

No, it is still a condition for the Partner (not parent)Visas, so one cannot sponsor multiple partners, just two and they must be 5 years apart.

 

The loophole that was closed was that if one person in a marriage was granted a Parent Visa, they could not then sponsor their other half on a Partner Visa - a huge well-exploited loophole that saved many people many thousands of dollars.

Sorry if my post was unclear, I was referring only to the parent visa, as this idea was raised many years ago on the parent thread, and the loophole had been stopped.

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Email received today for additional information........ UK Police certificates we left the UK 13 years ago to live in Spain. The stated criteria is any country you have lived in for 12 months in the last ten years.....Are we going to complain?, Are we going to protest?, Are we going to try and contact Immigration?

 

Or

 

Are we going to grit our teeth and smile sweetly....of course...$412 thank you.

 

Just for your information if it applies to you.

 

 

Red wine anyone

 

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CPV 143 submitted 2/1/2016, 1st Vac taken 7/1/2016, Request for further information, medical, form 80, aos etc 31/10/2019, received request for bank guarantee 13/1/2020, paid 14K into CommBank 15/1/2020 ( no 150$ application fee), all paperwork re bank guarantee & account details uploaded to centrelink and copy forwarded to immigration . Aos acceptance 17/1/2020, 2nd VAC paid 7/2/2020

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1 hour ago, bridgie said:

Email received today for additional information........ UK Police certificates emoji35.pngemoji35.pngemoji35.png we left the UK 13 years ago to live in Spain. The stated criteria is any country you have lived in for 12 months in the last ten years.....Are we going to complain?, Are we going to protest?, Are we going to try and contact Immigration?

 

Or

 

Are we going to grit our teeth and smile sweetly....of course...$412 thank you.

 

Just for your information if it applies to you.

 

 

Red wine anyoneemoji3.pngemoji3.png

 

Oh no!  Just don’t know what to say.

But red wine would be great!

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12/01/16: 134 application acknowledged            13/01/16: 1st payment received                           04/11/19: Request for more information
12/11/19: Passports & IDs to PVC team               13/11/19: Health Examinations done            15/11/19: AOS Application submitted  (MyGov)        
29/11/19: PCC to PVC team                                     04/12/19: Form80 to PVC team                          20/01/20: AOS bank guarantee paid

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4 hours ago, bridgie said:

Email received today for additional information........ UK Police certificates emoji35.pngemoji35.pngemoji35.png we left the UK 13 years ago to live in Spain. The stated criteria is any country you have lived in for 12 months in the last ten years.....Are we going to complain?, Are we going to protest?, Are we going to try and contact Immigration?

 

Or

 

Are we going to grit our teeth and smile sweetly....of course...$412 thank you.

 

Just for your information if it applies to you.

 

 

Red wine anyoneemoji3.pngemoji3.png

 

So sorry to hear that. Maybe it's worth just sending a message to your case officer to explain that it was 13 years ago you left the UK...? He/she might reconsider, you never know. Yes please for red wine!! 😊


12.01.2016143 lodged    21.01.2016 1st payment acknowledged   

11.11.2019 Request further Info

14.11.2019: AoS application submitted (MyGov)

14.11.2019: Forms 80 submitted

28.11.2019: Police checks submitted

3.12.2019: Medicals submitted

21.1..2020:  AoS Bond paid

30.1.2020: AoS accepted

4.2.2020: 2nd VAC payment request

11.2.2020: Visa Granted!

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Just recieved email requesting 2nd vac, its getting real 🙂

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143 visa lodged 4.10.15

heading to the sunshine coast (caloundra)

extra documents requested 18/7/2019

aos submitted 25/7/2019

police checks completed  1/9/2019

form 80 completed 3/9/2019

medical taken 7/9/2019

aos submitted 2.12.19

aos accepted 8/1/2020

2nd vac request 23.1.2020

2nd vac paid 27.1.2020

visa granted 28.1.2020

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1 hour ago, kimboslice said:

Just recieved email requesting 2nd vac, its getting real 🙂

Congratulations!

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12/01/16: 134 application acknowledged            13/01/16: 1st payment received                           04/11/19: Request for more information
12/11/19: Passports & IDs to PVC team               13/11/19: Health Examinations done            15/11/19: AOS Application submitted  (MyGov)        
29/11/19: PCC to PVC team                                     04/12/19: Form80 to PVC team                          20/01/20: AOS bank guarantee paid

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So sorry to hear that. Maybe it's worth just sending a message to your case officer to explain that it was 13 years ago you left the UK...? He/she might reconsider, you never know. Yes please for red wine!!

Thanks,

That’s exactly what I have done. It’s a bit bizarre because a Spanish police certificate has a page added if you are not a Spanish nation whereby they check in your country of birth whether you had a criminal record there.

Hey ho we’re more concerned about our trip to China at the moment to validate our PR.

Bridgie
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CPV 143 submitted 2/1/2016, 1st Vac taken 7/1/2016, Request for further information, medical, form 80, aos etc 31/10/2019, received request for bank guarantee 13/1/2020, paid 14K into CommBank 15/1/2020 ( no 150$ application fee), all paperwork re bank guarantee & account details uploaded to centrelink and copy forwarded to immigration . Aos acceptance 17/1/2020, 2nd VAC paid 7/2/2020

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7 hours ago, kimboslice said:

Just recieved email requesting 2nd vac, its getting real 🙂

So very pleased that things are at last moving on for you.  Fingers crossed it won't be long now!

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CPV 143 lodgement 12.3.15, Acknowledged 14.4.15

AOS, Medicals, Police checks and Form 80 requested 21 Dec 2017

AOS submitted 3 Jan 18, Police certs & Form 80 submitted 7 Jan 18, Medicals booked 10 Jan 18

AoS rejected 21 Jun without any consultation (24 weeks for them to make this decision)

AoS re-submitted 16 Jul 18 - interview carried out 7 Aug 18

AoS Bond paid 14 Aug 18

AoS approval received 27 Aug 18

Request for 2nd VAC - 11 Sep 18

Visa granted - 26 Sep 18

 

Heading for the Sunshine Coast

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7 hours ago, kimboslice said:

Just recieved email requesting 2nd vac, its getting real 🙂

Big congrats. 🎉🎉

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04.08.2015 143 lodged/06.08.2015 1st payment /12.02.2019 : request for docs, AoS and meds/07.03.2019 : meds done/15.03.2019 : apply police checks/ 18.03.2019 : AoS submitted (paper @ PM Centrelink )/19.03.2019 med queries- further tests  required/13.06.2019 : letter to panel doctors confirming no med probs exist /11.04.2019 : Form 80 & police checks submitted by agent/28.05.2019 : Aos rejected, reassessed & rejected again!/09.07.2019 : request for more info re form 80/Aos reassess/6.8.19:Swap out 1 person from Aos and sub new/9.10.19 Aos bond request/21.10.19 bond paid& Aos accepted/9.12.19 2nd VAC request/12.10.19 2nd VAC paid/ 13.12.2019 Visa granted

bound for mid north coast NSW !  😎 Sunnies now needed....& probably a mask (for bushfire smoke🥺)

flights booked for 31 December 2019....New Year in the air! 🎉🎉😎😎😎

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Hi

I need some help!  Registering the AoS is a saga!

My daughter hasn't claimed benefits in Australia, would she have a Centrelink CRN?

If not, what is the easiest way to get one.  All phone calls are ending with no help as they are information lines, which it tells you after 10 minutes on hold😱

Any suggestiobs would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Angela


143 acknowledged 06/04/2016

Requested to complete form 80 and apply for AoS 18/01/2020

Medical carried out (additional tests required😨) 30/01/2020

Police check completed online, passed and is in the post 31/01/2020

AoS application submitted to Centrelink 02/02/2020

Form 80 sent to my agent 04/02/2020

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Flangela100 said:

My daughter hasn't claimed benefits in Australia, would she have a Centrelink CRN?

If not, what is the easiest way to get one. 

No, she won't have a Centrelink CRN and will need to apply for one.

She can try logging in to MyGov (which she should have access to for her tax and Medicare already - if not, she should register) and she might be able to apply for a CRN through that.

However it's likely she'll still have to visit a Centrelink office in person to present her proof of ID, so she might as well just go straight to the office. 

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Scot by birth, emigrated 1985 | Aussie husband applied UK spouse visa Jan 2015, granted March 2015, moved to UK May 2015 | Returned to Oz June 2016

"The stranger who comes home does not make himself at home but makes home itself strange." -- Rainer Maria Rilke

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39 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

No, she won't have a Centrelink CRN and will need to apply for one.

She can try logging in to MyGov (which she should have access to for her tax and Medicare already - if not, she should register) and she might be able to apply for a CRN through that.

However it's likely she'll still have to visit a Centrelink office in person to present her proof of ID, so she might as well just go straight to the office. 

Yes, better to go to Centrelink branch since they will need to verify your id before account is usable.

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143 Visa lodged and acknowledged: 18/05/2015, Document request invitation: 18/12/2017

AoS lodged: 20/12/2017, interviewed: 08/05/2018 (~19-20 weeks) -- declaration letter requested, bond paid: 18/05/2018, acceptance letter: 13/07/2018

2nd VAC Payment Request: 05/11/2018, Visa granted: 07/11/2018

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My son has been told he needs to go in person to Centerlink to get CRN -you need to get identity checked - this is causing his timeline to be tight as he is working offshore just now - at least we have moved on from just waiting unable to do anything  - now waiting for police checks to come back ,have booked medical s, working of Form 80 , we are thankful we have moved onto this stage


143 applied and acknowledged -  01 April 2016

Request for further documents - 21 January 2020

Medicals Undertaken - 03 February 2020

AOS Submitted -12 February 2020

Form 80 / Police Clearances - 12 February 2020

 

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21 hours ago, kimboslice said:

Just recieved email requesting 2nd vac, its getting real 🙂

Yep, got the request for 2nd vac, Happy Friyay!

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15 hours ago, LBee said:

My son has been told he needs to go in person to Centerlink to get CRN -you need to get identity checked - this is causing his timeline to be tight as he is working offshore just now - at least we have moved on from just waiting unable to do anything  - now waiting for police checks to come back ,have booked medical s, working of Form 80 , we are thankful we have moved onto this stage

Yes me too, this Centrelink thing of having to register in person is a real saga.  My daughter has no holiday due, so I don't know how we're going to get it done.  You'd think that it would be possible to create a CRN online, we do our police checks  etc online which is an identity check🤔


143 acknowledged 06/04/2016

Requested to complete form 80 and apply for AoS 18/01/2020

Medical carried out (additional tests required😨) 30/01/2020

Police check completed online, passed and is in the post 31/01/2020

AoS application submitted to Centrelink 02/02/2020

Form 80 sent to my agent 04/02/2020

 

 

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Hi this post is for the uninitiated, like myself, so you don't get caught out like we have. Even though I have an agent that could have explained this!

Assurance of Support (AoS)

If you're going to need sponsoring for your visa, your sponsor will need a Centrelink Customer Reference Number  (abbreviated to CRN)

They need a CRN to enable them to apply for the AoS on the Centrelink website.

Centrelink is the Australian benefits department.  If your sponsor has never needed to claim benefits, it's possible they don't have a CRN.  The only way to get a CRN is to queue up at the dole office (Centrelink), wait your turn, and get registered. This can't be done online.

Centrelink are open 08:30 to 16:30. Monday to Friday.

Therefore, if your sponsor is working, it means taking time off work. Mine happens to have no holiday due, so is proving to be a pain.

I would say mention this to your sponsor before you're asked for your AoS to be lodged, could be years before, as once they have a CRN it will be easier further down the line. 

They can go into Centrelink in their own time, perhaps a booked day of leave etc. And are ready when ever your case is picked up 

I hope this info is accurate, if it needs amending then let me know and I'll edit as necessary.

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143 acknowledged 06/04/2016

Requested to complete form 80 and apply for AoS 18/01/2020

Medical carried out (additional tests required😨) 30/01/2020

Police check completed online, passed and is in the post 31/01/2020

AoS application submitted to Centrelink 02/02/2020

Form 80 sent to my agent 04/02/2020

 

 

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Just for Info re. CONVERTING YOUR UK DRIVING LICENCE (Victoria)

To convert your UK licence to a Victorian one you need to apply for a driving licence (there is not a specific form for just changing over).  Call your local VicRoads to make an appointment and make sure you have your necessary id documents - Passport, UK Licence, proof of address (got my bank to stamp a printout of my bank statement), Visa Grant letter.  If you have a medical condition which had to be declared in the UK, the fact that you were granted a UK licence will not automatically be recognised in Victoria.  You will have to complete a form to be signed by a doctor that you are OK to drive.  You can pick up this form in the VicRoads office (probably online too), so if you have this ready there'll be no delay.  The receipt for the licence fee (about $80) gives you permission to drive until your licence arrives.

Even if you have no intention of driving here  it's a very good idea to get a driver's licence as it's the most commonly asked for form of ID and is much easier to carry than your passport!  

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143 Application Lodged 24th June 2014; Acknowledgement 6th February 2015; Form 80, Police Checks & Medical requested 21st Sept 2016; AOS Lodged 29th November 2016; 2nd VAC paid 16th December 2016; VISA GRANTED 20th December 2016.

Heading to Wollert "The place where possums are found", Victoria (eventually)

"Eventually" has become a reality - at long last the house is sold, the car is spoken for, the Movecube is coming on 19th September and I'll be heading Down Under on 21st via Royal Brunei.  Arrive in Mebourne 3.30 a.m. their time on Monday.  😎

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