Kush99 31 Posted June 30, 2018 3 hours ago, SusieRoo said: The 143 is an off-shore visa so all applicants have to be out of Australia when the visa is granted. You should get informed when your brother needs to depart after paying the second VAC. Also, if your brother is now studying in Australia he will need to prove his dependency on your parents for his food, clothing and accommodation. @SusieRoo What kind of proof do I have to show, as he stays with me from the first day he came to Australia. So all the food, clothing is under me as well as the uni fees. But he works part-time over TFN will this affect him? Thanks CPV 14/10/15 1st Vac paid, receipted and acknowledged: 16/10/15 Request for Form 80, Aos and police check: 25/07/19 AOS Completed: 16/10/2019 Request for extra documents for dependent child: 29/10/2019 Extra documents submitted on 21/11/2019. Second Vac 06/12/19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tulip1 4,954 Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kush99 said: @SusieRoo What kind of proof do I have to show, as he stays with me from the first day he came to Australia. So all the food, clothing is under me as well as the uni fees. But he works part-time over TFN will this affect him? Thanks You may want to run that past an agent. It doesn't sound like he's dependant on his parents and it is their visa application not yours. they are not supporting him, someone else is. You don't need to show any evidence, it looks like you are just helping your brother out. When did they apply for the 143? Edited June 30, 2018 by Tulip1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tulip1 4,954 Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Kush99 said: @SusieRoo What kind of proof do I have to show, as he stays with me from the first day he came to Australia. So all the food, clothing is under me as well as the uni fees. But he works part-time over TFN will this affect him? Thanks Just seen your parents application was lodged October 2015. When will your brother turn 25? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SusieRoo 684 Posted June 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Kush99 said: @SusieRoo What kind of proof do I have to show, as he stays with me from the first day he came to Australia. So all the food, clothing is under me as well as the uni fees. But he works part-time over TFN will this affect him? Thanks If you are supporting your brother in Australia and he also has a job, then unfortunately he will not qualify as a dependent child on your parent’s visa application. You must be carful not to damage your parent’s visa outcome and I would recommend you talk to a good immigration agent (like @Alan Collett). Your family’s circumstances have probably changed since you originally applied for the visa. Your brother is now a young man and no longer a dependent child and will need to stand up on his own merits. I assume your brother is currently on a student visa and it maybe better if he looks for a vocational visa when he finishes his masters. Good luck to you and your family. 173 Visa lodged March 2016 - Granted October 2020 143 Visa lodged November 2020 - Granted March 2021 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kush99 31 Posted June 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Tulip1 said: Just seen your parents application was lodged October 2015. When will your brother turn 25? By the end of this year. CPV 14/10/15 1st Vac paid, receipted and acknowledged: 16/10/15 Request for Form 80, Aos and police check: 25/07/19 AOS Completed: 16/10/2019 Request for extra documents for dependent child: 29/10/2019 Extra documents submitted on 21/11/2019. Second Vac 06/12/19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kush99 31 Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, SusieRoo said: If you are supporting your brother in Australia and he also has a job, then unfortunately he will not qualify as a dependent child on your parent’s visa application. You must be carful not to damage your parent’s visa outcome and I would recommend you talk to a good immigration agent (like @Alan Collett). Your family’s circumstances have probably changed since you originally applied for the visa. Your brother is now a young man and no longer a dependent child and will need to stand up on his own merits. I assume your brother is currently on a student visa and it maybe better if he looks for a vocational visa when he finishes his masters. Good luck to you and your family. okk thanks for that I will consult an immigration agent regarding that. Thanks CPV 14/10/15 1st Vac paid, receipted and acknowledged: 16/10/15 Request for Form 80, Aos and police check: 25/07/19 AOS Completed: 16/10/2019 Request for extra documents for dependent child: 29/10/2019 Extra documents submitted on 21/11/2019. Second Vac 06/12/19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rosiejaq 433 Posted June 30, 2018 On 29/06/2018 at 18:35, Kush99 said: Hi, I have lodged 143 visa application in October 2015, has anyone an idea as of when immi will first pick it up and make contact for police checks, medicals etc.. Thank you for any replies. Hi we lodged August 2015 and haven't heard anything yet! 04.08.2015 : 143 lodged/06.08.2015 : 1st payment /12.02.2019 : request for docs, AoS and meds/07.03.2019 : meds done/15.03.2019 : apply police checks/ 18.03.2019 : AoS submitted (paper @ PM Centrelink )/19.03.2019 : med queries- further tests required/13.06.2019 : letter to panel doctors confirming no med probs exist /11.04.2019 : Form 80 & police checks submitted by agent/28.05.2019 : Aos rejected, reassessed & rejected again!/09.07.2019 : request for more info re form 80/Aos reassess/6.8.19:Swap out 1 person from Aos and sub new/9.10.19 Aos bond request/21.10.19 bond paid& Aos accepted/9.12.19 2nd VAC request/12.10.19 2nd VAC paid/ 13.12.2019 Visa granted bound for mid north coast NSW ! Sunnies now needed....& probably a mask (for bushfire smoke🥺) flights booked for 31 December 2019....New Year in the air! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tulip1 4,954 Posted June 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Kush99 said: By the end of this year. They are currently processing applications up to May 2015 so your brother may well be over 25 anyway when they get to October applicants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SusieRoo 684 Posted July 1, 2018 1st of July - Happy new visa year! Looking forward to seeing lots of grants and progress. 8 1 173 Visa lodged March 2016 - Granted October 2020 143 Visa lodged November 2020 - Granted March 2021 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nkassan 2 Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) Hi All does anyone might know if the payment for the 2nd VAC can be delayed after it is being requested? example I was asked to pay 58k for 2 parents and we were waiting on the house to be sold but it is not selling on time and we might miss the 28 days period, so can we ask for extension on the payment? Regards Edited July 2, 2018 by Nkassan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merryweather 127 Posted July 2, 2018 Hi Nkassan, you need to get in touch with your agent or immigration (PVC team) immediately and talk to them. M Lodged 143 visa app 11/3/15. Invitation to supply medicals, police checks, etc. 5/1/18, AoS lodged 8//1/18, AoS phone interview 27/2/18, Bank guarantee lodged 12/3/1, Acceptance letter received 3/5/18 2nd VAC request 12/06/18 Visa granted 3/07/18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LindaH27 857 Posted July 2, 2018 Taken from home affairs website saying funds must be available when requested Second VAC A second VAC is required for each individual applicant included in the application. Payment of the second VAC is not required until just before the grant of a visa.Note: Processing times for contributory parent category visas can vary so it is important that applicants ensure they have available funds for the second VAC at all times in the application process as payment may be required at an earlier date than was originally anticipated at the time of visa lodgement. Im not sure if delays are allowed but check with immi or your agent 143 lodged June 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marilyn 354 Posted July 2, 2018 Hi, Getting really impatient when I have a new life with my kid and grandkids lies ahead - keep getting disappointed when I go onto the website to look at the processing times and see 48 months! I applied for the 173 to give me time to save for the 2nd VAC as I wanted to save everything before immigrating. I am already at that stage where I should have gone for the 143 it has taken so long. Does anyone know if you can withdraw the 173 and apply for the 143 without it affecting my timings? I would hate to have to go back to the beginning again. I initially had the Parent Visa but that was for over 15 years in 2012 and withdrew that and applied for the 173 only to be requested for all the additional documents straight away - I didn't realise as i had already been in a queue for 3 years already they moved me to the top but i didnt have the funds at the time so had to withdraw and reapply in October. Its probably safe to just stay as it is as it is getting closer. I just keep thinking "I will be there this time next year" my only saving grace! Thank you for this its been very interesting and comforting to see I am not on my own! 173 lodged 30.10.2015 1st payment acknowledged 1.11.15 30th Oct 2015 173 lodged (off shore) ; 02nd Nov 2015 - Acknowledged; 6th Feb 2019 - Request for additional documents ; 2nd Mar 2019 Submitted to PVC Team 1; 24th July - Request to pay 2nd VAC ; 25th July 2019 - Visa granted - 12th Sept 2019 entered Australia 24th June 2020 143 lodged (on shore); 02nd July 2020 - Acknowledged ; 03rd August - Request for AOS and AFP clearance Certificate ; 10th August- AOS approval letter received; 25th September - Request to pay 2nd VAC ; 29th September 143 visa granted ; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SusieRoo 684 Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Marilyn said: Hi, Getting really impatient when I have a new life with my kid and grandkids lies ahead - keep getting disappointed when I go onto the website to look at the processing times and see 48 months! I applied for the 173 to give me time to save for the 2nd VAC as I wanted to save everything before immigrating. I am already at that stage where I should have gone for the 143 it has taken so long. Does anyone know if you can withdraw the 173 and apply for the 143 without it affecting my timings? I would hate to have to go back to the beginning again. I initially had the Parent Visa but that was for over 15 years in 2012 and withdrew that and applied for the 173 only to be requested for all the additional documents straight away - I didn't realise as i had already been in a queue for 3 years already they moved me to the top but i didnt have the funds at the time so had to withdraw and reapply in October. Its probably safe to just stay as it is as it is getting closer. I just keep thinking "I will be there this time next year" my only saving grace! Thank you for this its been very interesting and comforting to see I am not on my own! 173 lodged 30.10.2015 1st payment acknowledged 1.11.15 We are in the same boat wishing we had gone directly for a 143. It appears we can't swap to a 143 now without starting again, but I am going to ask when we get a case officer. What a shame about the first application, but I do think you are now less than a year away (just). Have you considered a 600 holiday visa, which will allow you to stay for a year? 173 Visa lodged March 2016 - Granted October 2020 143 Visa lodged November 2020 - Granted March 2021 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marilyn 354 Posted July 2, 2018 Thanks for your response - I been looking back at the past posts and saw a very interesting grid which gives a good indication and looks like mine may be granted in March 2019 not too bad and as you say less than a year. I have spent the past 6 years "waiting". I used to be a brunette I am now totally grey from waiting for so long. I keep thinking that I will end up having to apply for the aged parent visa at this rate and I am only 58 I have not thought about the 600 holiday visa but i think at this late stage I have to be out of Australia to complete the 173 so it would not work at this stage and as long as i am in UK i can continue working and saving. I noticed as well applying for the 143 after 2 years is also a major delay and this is when we need to apply for the AOS so I am thinking as soon as i get there after 6 months i will start that process and get to be permanent asap. Good luck to everyone will be watching progress continuously with the hope there is an increase in the numbers of visas issued from 7150 to 8000 would make a big difference - the country could only benefit with the costs of a CPV 1 30th Oct 2015 173 lodged (off shore) ; 02nd Nov 2015 - Acknowledged; 6th Feb 2019 - Request for additional documents ; 2nd Mar 2019 Submitted to PVC Team 1; 24th July - Request to pay 2nd VAC ; 25th July 2019 - Visa granted - 12th Sept 2019 entered Australia 24th June 2020 143 lodged (on shore); 02nd July 2020 - Acknowledged ; 03rd August - Request for AOS and AFP clearance Certificate ; 10th August- AOS approval letter received; 25th September - Request to pay 2nd VAC ; 29th September 143 visa granted ; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wishfull 108 Posted July 2, 2018 Hi Did everyone who paid their second VAC and were promised their visa for 1st July have their visa granted? I was hoping to to be greeted today by a cascade of jubilant entries rejoicing about finally having their visa granted. I hope the silence is not an ominous sign. @ant111 @MikenC @Merryweather @Nicole Eire @IanS61 @Tidang @Mrs Depp @whataday Applied for 143 23 Oct 2015, Acknowledged 3 Nov 2015 . Request for further documents 29 Jul 2019, medical booked for 6 Aug 2019 Heading for Brisbane area Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikenC 76 Posted July 2, 2018 No we haven't. I thought I might hear something today, but alas we're still waiting 1 CPV143 lodgement date 10/03/2015 acknowledgement date 11/03/2015 AOS, Medicals, Police checks and form 80 requested 21/12/2017 AoS submitted 28 Dec 17, Police certs and Form80 submitted 12 Jan 18, Medicals submitted 11 Jan 18 centrelink AOS letter received to post bond 3/4/2018 paid 5/4/2018 AOS acceptance letter received 24/4/2018 email received acknowledging all documents received 9/5/2018 request for 2nd vac payment 12/6/2018 Visa granted 03/7/2018 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs Depp 122 Posted July 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Wishfull said: Hi Did everyone who paid their second VAC and were promised their visa for 1st July have their visa granted? I was hoping to to be greeted today by a cascade of jubilant entries rejoicing about finally having their visa granted. I hope the silence is not an ominous sign. @ant111 @MikenC @Merryweather @Nicole Eire @IanS61 @Tidang @Mrs Depp @whataday No news here either 1 Living the dream, Sunshine Coast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merryweather 127 Posted July 2, 2018 Nah! 'Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya tomorrow ' etc, etc, ...... 3 Lodged 143 visa app 11/3/15. Invitation to supply medicals, police checks, etc. 5/1/18, AoS lodged 8//1/18, AoS phone interview 27/2/18, Bank guarantee lodged 12/3/1, Acceptance letter received 3/5/18 2nd VAC request 12/06/18 Visa granted 3/07/18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ant111 109 Posted July 2, 2018 6 hours ago, Wishfull said: Hi Did everyone who paid their second VAC and were promised their visa for 1st July have their visa granted? I was hoping to to be greeted today by a cascade of jubilant entries rejoicing about finally having their visa granted. I hope the silence is not an ominous sign. @ant111 @MikenC @Merryweather @Nicole Eire @IanS61 @Tidang @Mrs Depp @whataday Going offshore Friday so hope to hear shortly. 143 App acknowledged 6/2/15 Email for PCs inc Australian. Form 80, Medical 9/11/17 Medical 17/11/17 All ok AOS app 20/11/17. Form 80s, PCs emailed 1/12/2017 AOS INTERVIEW 13/4/2018 Request for Aos Bond , Bond done 20/4/2018 Waiting for approval letter Got AOS acceptance letter today 7/6/2018) Got second payment and offshore itinerary request 12/6/2018 Visa granted offshore 6/7/18 within hours of leaving Australia for Thailand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikenC 76 Posted July 3, 2018 Just woke up to our visas being granted. It's turned into one of those great days!!!!!!! 10 1 CPV143 lodgement date 10/03/2015 acknowledgement date 11/03/2015 AOS, Medicals, Police checks and form 80 requested 21/12/2017 AoS submitted 28 Dec 17, Police certs and Form80 submitted 12 Jan 18, Medicals submitted 11 Jan 18 centrelink AOS letter received to post bond 3/4/2018 paid 5/4/2018 AOS acceptance letter received 24/4/2018 email received acknowledging all documents received 9/5/2018 request for 2nd vac payment 12/6/2018 Visa granted 03/7/2018 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zaki 103 Posted July 3, 2018 On 19/06/2018 at 15:54, Tidang said: Thanks Zaki Do u have any news ???? C.P.V lodgement date 5.5.2015 Acknowledment date 11.05.2015 Prepration to commence docs 9.12.2017 Medicals 15.12.2017. Police clearance 16.12.2017 AoS Lodged on 23.12.17 Aos Telephone interview 10.4.18 Request to Pay off Bond with CBA and lodged 25.4.18 Aos Acceptance letter 2.5.18 2nd VAC 3.7.18 Permenant residency Granted 10.7.18 38 months Phewwwwwwwww Lives in Sydney, Australia From Mumbai, Maharashtra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zaki 103 Posted July 3, 2018 Back me up guys .... Best feeling in the world when u get Nd check out that u r requested with 2nd Vac amazing feeling. Child like bliss and internal happiness Finally #38months 4 C.P.V lodgement date 5.5.2015 Acknowledment date 11.05.2015 Prepration to commence docs 9.12.2017 Medicals 15.12.2017. Police clearance 16.12.2017 AoS Lodged on 23.12.17 Aos Telephone interview 10.4.18 Request to Pay off Bond with CBA and lodged 25.4.18 Aos Acceptance letter 2.5.18 2nd VAC 3.7.18 Permenant residency Granted 10.7.18 38 months Phewwwwwwwww Lives in Sydney, Australia From Mumbai, Maharashtra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Nguyen 13 Posted July 3, 2018 Hi guys, I've been following this space for a while now and we have been requested for the 2nd VAC payment recently so we are expecting our VISA grant later this month. I just want to share my experience and my observations over the last 40 months (particular from the invitation to provide supporting documents to the final stage) with everyone in the forums and hopefully that you will find them informative, and comforting to know that we're not alone in this journey. Feel free to ask any questions We have lodged our on 19.03.15, you will be able to see the complete timeline below. Similar to everyone, we were invited to provide supporting documents in early October. Below is a number of observations that I was able to note since following blog posts, forum and comparing to my experience. Hope you find this helpful. Observations regarding PVC requests and responses 1. Replies and requests from the PVC teams seemed to be sent out in batched and they commonly falls on a Monday/ the start of the week (if the Monday is a public holiday, we do get responses on a Tuesday). It almost seemed like all replies are held back for a particular release dates or a response period. They seemed to be active every 3 weeks If you look at recent posts: 12/06 - a round of 2nd VAC were sent out to many in this forum (@ant111 @MikenC @Merryweather @Nicole Eire @IanS61 @Tidang @Mrs Depp @whataday) 2/07 - I think this is another round - we got 2nd VAC and also @Zaki above I believe. Anyone else?? Note that it is 3 weeks apart! Let's see if this is true on the 24/7? 2. The lead time for getting responses from the PVC team after our documents submission are consistently exactly around the 3 weeks marks. (This may vary) In our experience, we are constantly getting requested for documents and I have timed our activities with the PVC and it is always 3 weeks! So some of you might find this info interesting. I'm sure there are different cases. If anyone has a different experience, please do share 3. Invitation to provide additional documents may come very early, subsequent response maybe dependant on the "75% application processing period". In our case, we complete AoS, health examinations and the initial request very early in January (our 33rd month). At this time, The "75% application processing period" is at 36th months. And coincidentally, on 19.03.18 (the exact 36 months milestone since our lodgement in 2015), we started to get subsequent requests from them. This is when the lead time for PVC communication with us kicks in (consistently hearing from them 3 weeks after we send in anything). Application with Dependant child: In our experience, the dependant must meet the criterion of a dependant child at the time of lodgement (22 in our case) and maintain a full time and dependency status until the visa grant (26 at the moment). In April 2018, we are requested to provide provide additional proof to prove that the dependant application is still dependent. This is where the headache and anxiety really kicked in. We have previously provided the receipts of tuition and expenses along with the questionnaire responses in March. However, the were not enough, PVC requests us the following: evidence that tax invoices were paid by the dependant's parents - if paid by them Evidence to support the Dependency Questionaire, that cash were given to the Dependant/ or his relatives during his overseas trips to pay for expenses. This includes the parent's bank statements, deposit, money declared to Customs at airports to clarify the money trails of these cash payment It was a very exhausting processes of tracing old bank accounts history, (including those that were closed many years ago) passport trips history and declare through statutory declaration statement by a number of involved relatives to prove this money trail. So to all of those who applied recently do think via bank transfer and keep your receipts! Very important and save you lots of headaches later on. That's just our experience. Hope you find this info helpful. Feel free to ask me any questions. Happy to share our experience. It's been a long journey but It's almost over. We're very happy. Hang in there and good luck everyone. 2 143 Lodged/acknowledged 19.03.15 (Daughter sponsoring Mother and a dependent child (younger brother - 22 at the time of lodgement)) 5.10.17 - invitation to supply preliminary documents (health examinations, form 80 commencing AoS application) 12.10.17 - Medical examination completed 20.11.17 - AoS application lodged with Centerlink 5.01.17 - AoS interview (delayed as we were overseas till late December) 10.01.18 - AoS acceptance letter received and forwarded 19.03. 18 - Form 80s, overseas police checks request, dependant questionnaire forms) 15.04.18 - Request for financial proof of financial support from Mother to Son - submitted 2 week later 27.05.18 - Request for the renewal of the dependant's overseas police check (old one ran out) and informed the 2nd VAC will follow after police check re-submitted 8.06.18 - Dependant's Police check submitted 2.07.18 - Request for 2nd VAC and itinerary of dependant - Paid and travel plan forwarded. The Dependant and mother are expected to depart Australia 24.07.18 -30.02.18 - Finger-crossed PR will be granted from 25.07.18 onwards. 25.07.18 - PR granted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs Depp 122 Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Zaki said: Back me up guys .... Best feeling in the world when u get Nd check out that u r requested with 2nd Vac amazing feeling. Child like bliss and internal happiness Finally #38months Congratulations Zaki! Lets hope they don't take too long to grant the visa. 1 Living the dream, Sunshine Coast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites