ant111 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 10 hours ago, Ferrets said: Well if you are in Australia on a 600 to look after your grandchildren on a regular scheduled basis then it might be a breach (I would ask a MARA agent to confirm). Doesn't mean anyone will check but don't pretend to have a clear conscience if you are breaking immigration rules. Saying I'm being pretentious when it's untrue Isn't that technically and actually defamatory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrets Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, ant111 said: Saying I'm being pretentious when it's untrue Isn't that technically and actually defamatory! I apologise, I may have misunderstood your circumstances and strategy and it's counter productive to argue when everyone is seeking the same goal. I assume your agent has confirmed your strategy and I would take their professional opinion over my ramblings. Good luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant111 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 39 minutes ago, Ferrets said: I apologise, I may have misunderstood your circumstances and strategy and it's counter productive to argue when everyone is seeking the same goal. I assume your agent has confirmed your strategy and I would take their professional opinion over my ramblings. Good luck. Arguing? Apology accepted! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisher1 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 22 hours ago, SusieRoo said: No need to apologise and it’s nice to see someone challenging the Blue Rinse Brigade. You do have a point about the hypocritical nature of some posts. Clearly you would never get a 600 visa if you indicated on the application an intention to work as an unpaid child-minder (even if just one day a week). Equally the 600 visa would be refused if you declared an intention to move permanently to Australia while awaiting 143 grant (ie. Selling your house and shipping furniture). There have been postings here (from real experts) warning against risking or misusing a 600 visa. But anyone following this thread for the last couple of years will have seen numerous people doing both of these without being discovered or facing any consequences. And many of us here (including myself) are always happy to whish these parents well, knowing full well they are actually bending the rules. So it’s wrong for us Brits to condone this use of 600 visas while condemning the age of some Asian dependents. It looks like immi uses a little prudence in both cases and if we need to be carful what we wish for. We all have the same goals here and we need to be respectful of cultural differences. Good on you Ferrets for standing up for yourself and good luck to everyone. Blue rinse brigade? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosiejaq Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 32 minutes ago, Fisher1 said: Blue rinse brigade? I don’t think they exist anymore do they? It was my grandmothers generation and she died 25 years ago! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollipop Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 First time on this forum in a decade - someone please direct me to the right place if this isn't it! We are trying to move my mother in law to live with us. My husband and I are both originally from the UK and successfully migrated here 10 years ago. We are now both dual citizens. My mother in law has depression and is a very lonely lady, living in the UK all by herself. We want to help her move out here - she currently has a house with about GBP200K equity in it if she sells. My husband has a brother (lives in Dubai with a high pressure job and a small baby) and a sister (lives in the UK, is much younger, cannot handle the stress of looking after her mum) so its really up to us to look after her as the other two are totally unable. However, from our initial investigations into visas it seems that because she wont pass the family test (ie. only one of her 3 children live in Australia) that there is no other way to get her out here - is that correct? Open to all suggestions and info - thanks in advance for all your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathss56 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hollipop said: First time on this forum in a decade - someone please direct me to the right place if this isn't it! We are trying to move my mother in law to live with us. My husband and I are both originally from the UK and successfully migrated here 10 years ago. We are now both dual citizens. My mother in law has depression and is a very lonely lady, living in the UK all by herself. We want to help her move out here - she currently has a house with about GBP200K equity in it if she sells. My husband has a brother (lives in Dubai with a high pressure job and a small baby) and a sister (lives in the UK, is much younger, cannot handle the stress of looking after her mum) so its really up to us to look after her as the other two are totally unable. However, from our initial investigations into visas it seems that because she wont pass the family test (ie. only one of her 3 children live in Australia) that there is no other way to get her out here - is that correct? Open to all suggestions and info - thanks in advance for all your help! If they are spread in 3 different countries - sorry just looked on immi doesn’t look like you can. Unsure ! ask @Alan Collett agent - for advice on this Message him directly. The only other thing would be for her to visit you often for months at a time. The new temporary parent visa may be suitable when that comes in But that would only be able to renewed for up to 10yrs then she would have to leave. Not ideal! Edited May 22, 2018 by Kathss56 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH27 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Have to say I agree with @Kathss56 on this. The balance of family test is crucial to the parent visa. Only an agent could really help here. I have no real knowledge of the medical tests also required for the visa but I believe chronic conditions are looked at carefully cost wise. The wait lists are now very long as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollipop Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Kathss56 said: If they are spread in 3 different countries - sorry just looked on immi doesn’t look like you can. Unsure ! ask @Alan Collett agent - for advice on this Message him directly. The only other thing would be for her to visit you often for months at a time. The new temporary parent visa may be suitable when that comes in But that would only be able to renewed for up to 10yrs then she would have to leave. Not ideal! Thanks so much for your quick reply. I will message him now. Just FYI - I have been on hold to immigration to ask them this question, we started as number 154 in the queue. Waited on hold for over two hours - just got answered and they said...drum roll....we are only here to tell you the same as the website, you need to use an immigration agent!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathss56 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Hollipop said: Thanks so much for your quick reply. I will message him now. Just FYI - I have been on hold to immigration to ask them this question, we started as number 154 in the queue. Waited on hold for over two hours - just got answered and they said...drum roll....we are only here to tell you the same as the website, you need to use an immigration agent!! Yep afraid it’s futile ringing them! Google the new temporary parent visa as you don’t have to pass balance of family test. However this has not been passed yet. Like I say after 10yrs there is no permanent pathway though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffandgill Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Hollipop said: First time on this forum in a decade - someone please direct me to the right place if this isn't it! We are trying to move my mother in law to live with us. My husband and I are both originally from the UK and successfully migrated here 10 years ago. We are now both dual citizens. My mother in law has depression and is a very lonely lady, living in the UK all by herself. We want to help her move out here - she currently has a house with about GBP200K equity in it if she sells. My husband has a brother (lives in Dubai with a high pressure job and a small baby) and a sister (lives in the UK, is much younger, cannot handle the stress of looking after her mum) so its really up to us to look after her as the other two are totally unable. However, from our initial investigations into visas it seems that because she wont pass the family test (ie. only one of her 3 children live in Australia) that there is no other way to get her out here - is that correct? Open to all suggestions and info - thanks in advance for all your help! We originally had one son in USA, one daughter in Australia ( she has been a citizen since 2009) and a son in UK and we were unable to apply for a CPV until our son moved out to Australia on a skill Visa in 2015! So unless there is anything new coming soon I don’t think it will be possible, but you never know ! Regards Geoff & Gill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Collett Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-s-migration-intake-plunges-amid-beefed-up-visa-checks Nothing to do with gross inefficiencies in the administration of the migration program - or the Assurance of Support process - of course. What a load of waffle (I could say worse, but there may be children viewing) from a Sir Humphrey type .. Best regards. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH27 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Yes!! Definitely reminds me of “Yes Minister” - Sir Humphrey is indeed alive and well!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusieRoo Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Hollipop said: First time on this forum in a decade - someone please direct me to the right place if this isn't it! We are trying to move my mother in law to live with us. My husband and I are both originally from the UK and successfully migrated here 10 years ago. We are now both dual citizens. My mother in law has depression and is a very lonely lady, living in the UK all by herself. We want to help her move out here - she currently has a house with about GBP200K equity in it if she sells. My husband has a brother (lives in Dubai with a high pressure job and a small baby) and a sister (lives in the UK, is much younger, cannot handle the stress of looking after her mum) so its really up to us to look after her as the other two are totally unable. However, from our initial investigations into visas it seems that because she wont pass the family test (ie. only one of her 3 children live in Australia) that there is no other way to get her out here - is that correct? Open to all suggestions and info - thanks in advance for all your help! I think you will find there are many other is a similar situation and unfortunately there is no simple fix. To echo other posts, the new temp parent visa is an option but only for ten years. And then you would be faced with an even more difficult situation having to put your mother-in-law on a plane back to the uk. I'm not an expert but I did have a work colleague would suffered from depression and it was a terrible illness. The one thing which really helped was doing daily exercise (swimming and walking) probably not suitable for everyone though. Have you thought about having her stay with you for a few months each year (on a 600 visa), or a couple of trips per year. It may give her a focal point and something to plan and look forward to. Sorry if this sounds a little simplistic but I know how sometimes just small changes can make a big difference in peoples lives. Edited May 22, 2018 by SusieRoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I’d be aiming for the short term visits, she can do them every year for a while. A chronic condition which could cost the Aus taxpayers over a threshold amount could be a barrier - no idea how much her anti depressants cost even if you could swing the BoF test and such things are best discussed with agents who specialise in medical conditions. Failing that, you could always move back to look after her if she needs that much care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisher1 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I think you will find there are many other is a similar situation and unfortunately there is no simple fix. To echo other posts, the new temp parent visa is an option but only for ten years. And then you would be faced with an even more difficult situation having to put your mother-in-law on a plane back to the uk. I'm not an expert but I did have a work colleague would suffered from depression and it was a terrible illness. The one thing which really helped was doing daily exercise (swimming and walking) probably not suitable for everyone though. Have you thought about having her stay with you for a few months each year (on a 600 visa), or a couple of trips per year. It may give her a focal point and something to plan and look forward to. Sorry if this sounds a little simplistic but I know how sometimes just small changes can make a big difference in peoples lives. I feel sorry for you because I have been in a similar position and it isn't easy. I can only echo what Quoll says about shorter visits. Even if you can't move back to look after her, maybe spend what time you can in the UK between your mother - in - law's visits to Australia? The emotional upheaval of moving to Australia as an older migrant shouldn't be underestimated either - the loss of everything familiar could make MIL's depression worse ... Hope you manage to sort something out that helps the situation - and I would be yanking the chain of both the Dubai brother and the younger sister in the UK to do their bit as well - even a fortnight's visit from each of them each year would relieve you of four week's worry. Good luck with it all. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathss56 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) @Hollipop Well said @Fisher1 the sunshine will be good for her and regular visits to Oz and from her relatives will give her something positive to focus on and look forward to instead of nothing. Edited May 23, 2018 by Kathss56 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip1 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 On 22/05/2018 at 07:04, Hollipop said: First time on this forum in a decade - someone please direct me to the right place if this isn't it! We are trying to move my mother in law to live with us. My husband and I are both originally from the UK and successfully migrated here 10 years ago. We are now both dual citizens. My mother in law has depression and is a very lonely lady, living in the UK all by herself. We want to help her move out here - she currently has a house with about GBP200K equity in it if she sells. My husband has a brother (lives in Dubai with a high pressure job and a small baby) and a sister (lives in the UK, is much younger, cannot handle the stress of looking after her mum) so its really up to us to look after her as the other two are totally unable. However, from our initial investigations into visas it seems that because she wont pass the family test (ie. only one of her 3 children live in Australia) that there is no other way to get her out here - is that correct? Open to all suggestions and info - thanks in advance for all your help! As you already know, she doesn't pass the balance of family test so cannot get a parent visa. As has been said on here, as much contact as possible will help and other siblings need to do their bit too. Dubai is a five hour flight away so busy or not the son can make a couple of long weekends away a year to visit mum (I'm sure he gets holiday entitlement). The daughter in the U.K. can do her bit too (but just because she still lives in the uk shouldn't be expected to do more than the other children) and MIL can visit you (and why not the Dubai son? Sure she'd love spending time with the baby). Phone calls from around the world are either free or very cheap these days. I'm sure MIL is getting help with the depression, she needs to try and get a social life herself. Has this situation only recently become a problem as you say you've been away 10 years? Many have said on here before and I think it's true, there's nothing wrong with living wherever you want to and I'm a firm believer of that. However, people who emigrate have to have a selfishness about it all as they know it's what they want but unlikely what their extended family want, especially parents. MIL probably feels her family have moved away and left her and that's exactly what's happened, they are ok to do that in my opinion but it can often cause problems for the parents left behind. When you choose to live in different parts of the world to parents contact as much as possible is the only thing you can do (all of you). 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimboslice Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 We are currently assessing applications lodged up to and including 30 April 2015. what the hell is going on, never known a wait like it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikenC Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I have to agree. It beggars belief what they actually do in that office! I’m getting sick of waiting for a decision! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidang Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Metoo MikenC Waiting for them Day by day make me .... Hope they give our decisions in this week . You and me are the same boat lodged in march 2015 still waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH27 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 It’s nearing the end of their financial year. Doubtful they will be issuing any more visas till after July. Just a personal observation given that they are no longer issuing the amount they are able to. Last few years they have issued less than 7175 which is now a “ceiling” not a “ Cap” so that figure doesn’t have to be met. They appear to be really cutting back on all visas not just parent ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishfull Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 By my reckoning there are at least 11 members of Poms in Oz who have had their AOS acceptance letters and are awaiting their 2nd VAC requests. MikenC has been waiting for almost a month and by date should be next in line. There are also 2 members who have paid their second VAC and are still waiting for their visas to be allocated. There is still over a month before the end of the financial year, 1/12 of the annual processing time left, so hardly time to down tools yet! According to the article that Alan Collett kindly sent us a link to, the visas allocated so far this financial year are well below the cap allocated for the year so surely there is scope for further visas to be issued before the end of this financial year and still come in below the 7175 "ceiling". I share everyone's frustration, as someone recently remarked - These are people's lives being played with. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramot Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 8 hours ago, kimboslice said: We are currently assessing applications lodged up to and including 30 April 2015. what the hell is going on, never known a wait like it. The queue for the 864 CPV has only moved 6 weeks in the last 20 months, from September 2016 to 27th October 2016 the lack of movement is past a joke. There is a complete lack of transparency/honesty on the wait for parent visas. A shambles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidang Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) After 37 days to financial year . If there are no places for us who lodge in march. Its not fair to our. I feel so terrible when they have to wait for another month Edited May 24, 2018 by Tidang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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