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Guest pravinkawale

Hi,

 

i am newbie on this forum. i have few queries regarding general skill migration Visa for Australia

 

 

  1. i am from india and my education is Bachelor degree in Mathematics.
  2. i have been working as Graphic/Web Designer since last 5 yrs. currently i am working with ORACLE company india as a Graphic User interface designer
  3. i have checked on VETASSESS website i and my profession comes in occupation list as "Graphic Designer"

 

well my query is am i eligible for Skill Migrant Visa? Should i move forward to process my assessment with VETASSESS? because question in my mind is that my education is nor relevant to my occupation but plus point is i have 5 years of experience in graphic designing and currently working with good brand ORACLE company.

 

awaiting your response

 

Thanks in advance!

Pravin:biggrin:

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Guest Gollywobbler

Hi Pravin

 

Welcome to Poms in Oz.

 

Nobody on PiO can tell you whether you are eligible for a skilled visa. None of the ordinary members are Registered Migration Agents and the forum is not insured for giving the type of advice that you seek. In any case none of us have seen the relevant documents so we only have your word for it that you are a Graphic Designer.

 

Could you squeeze yourself into one of the computing specialties instead? I don't know a thing about IT apart from just enough to work the machine on my desk badly and slowly - like 99% of other computer users! I haven't a clue what the specialties mean in computing etc. The machine at work works. How & why it works is the IT Department's business, not mine. You get the drift.....!

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/critical-skills-list.pdf

 

If you can squeeze yourself onto the CSL then your visa will be fast tracked.

 

The detailed ASCO Code is below. It contains the authoritative description of the tasks involved in each recognised occupation in Australia:

 

1220.0 - Australian Standard Classification of Occupations (ASCO) Second Edition, 1997

 

The DIAC COs are using the ASCO Code at the moment in order to work out what all the visa applicants actually do. If you read the computer stuff and the Graphic Designer stuff and you remain convinced that your occupation has to be Graphic Designer then so be it.

 

However if you are a Graphic Designer then this document becomes relevant next:

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/faq-priority-processing.pdf

 

If you can't squeeze yourself onto the CSL then you need to be in Category 5 if possible according to the FAQ above. The fast, reliable link to all the State sponsorship websites and their different Lists is below:

 

State & Territory Migration Sites - australia.gov.au

 

The link I've given you is much faster than the creaky old thing on the DIAC website. I'm not sure whether any of the States are sponsoring Graphic Designers but some of them seem to be keen to attract people who know about Oracle?

 

DIAC are now processing some of the Cat 5 applications but they say they will not be able to finalise all of them before 30th June 2010, which is when DIAC's current Migration Program Year ends. They haven't said what they think will happen in 2010/2011, from 1st July 2010 onwards. That depends on how many skilled migrants the Minister for Immigration decides to permit during the next Program Year, which won't be known by the public till around the time of the Federal Budget - around mid-May 2010.

 

DIAC have said, however, that they do not expect any movement in Cats 6 and 7 during the current Program Year. The three year idea mentioned in the FAQ starts here:

 

Migration Program Statistics - Statistics - Publications, Research & Statistics

 

In about July 2009, Plan A was to allow about 60,000 GSM visas out of the skilled 108,100 visas permitted. The Minister much prefers employer sponsored PR so he wants to see the 35,000 employer sponsored visas go up whilst the 60,000 comes down if possible.

 

In a radio interview in November 2009, the Minister admitted that DIAC were sitting on about 30,000 onshore GSM visa applications which had been received up till then but not processed. He admitted that about 105,000 offshore GSM visa applications were at DIAC and in the same state. 145,000/60,000 will take about 3 years to sort out, plainly.

 

Immigration Minister responds to backlog concerns - The National Interest - 13 November 2009

 

The Minister (understandably) does not want the numbers problem to become any worse than it already is. He is burbling about "better targeting" of skilled migration but the reality is that his Bright Ideas of 17th December 2008 and 16th March 2009 were both dismal failures which failed to fix the problem.

 

So then the Minister embarked on Plan C on 23rd September 2009 and on his new measures concerning Vetassess and TRA. God knows whether Plan C will work any better than Plans A & B. I suspect that this has to do with controlling the numbers of new applications, not the state of Australia's economy. myself.

 

 

Cheers

 

Gill

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Hi Pravin

 

Just a bit of further general advice in addition to the good oil that Gill has given you. You could get recognised by VETASSESS as a Graphic Designer as long as your degree is assessed as at least the equivalent of an Australian Bachelor Degree AND VETASSESS accept that you have at least 3 years of skilled Graphic Design experience, or closely related skilled experience, in the last 5 years. This then scores you 50 points for skills. Qualfication for any General Skilled visas will depend on many other things:

 

Your Age

Your English Language Score

Whether Graphic Designers are on any State/Territory sponsorship lists.

 

The other issue is then the speed of processing of any visa that you do qualify for. As a Graphic Designer, processing could easily take over 2 to 3 years. The only possible relevant Critical Skills List occupation you could get would be a Computing Professional with Oracle specialisation. This would take an application to the Australian Computer Society and you would need to apply for a Recognised Prior Learning (RPL) application and have 6 years of recognised Professional Computing Experience as well as 12 months of specialised Oracle experience in the previous 4 years. So it may be that Graphic Designer is your only option ?

 

Regards


Anthony Coates MARN: 0601801

tonycoates@eircom.net

 

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Hi Pravin,

 

I am a Graphic Designer assessed last year in VETASSESS and I am a Computer Science major. If you could take a look at my Transcript of Records, there's no relevant graphics-related subject involved in my 4 years in college (tho during the class, i used to doodle heh)

 

But i got the successful assessment (tho i was refused first due lack of documents, my fault), maybe because my major is in line with IT, and in your case since you're a Mathematics Major, better look for another way because I knew from someone that she got refused because her current employment's not relevant to what course she finished.

 

Goodluck :)

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Not sure about your degree issue but the ACT government does offer sponsorship to Graphic Designers with a minimum of 3 years experience and a score of 7 in the IELTS overall and for speaking.

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Hi Pravin,

 

I am a Graphic Designer assessed last year in VETASSESS and I am a Computer Science major. If you could take a look at my Transcript of Records, there's no relevant graphics-related subject involved in my 4 years in college (tho during the class, i used to doodle heh)

 

But i got the successful assessment (tho i was refused first due lack of documents, my fault), maybe because my major is in line with IT, and in your case since you're a Mathematics Major, better look for another way because I knew from someone that she got refused because her current employment's not relevant to what course she finished.

 

Goodluck :)

 

The VETASSESS completely changed their assessment guidelines from 01 January 2010. Fefore that you could get recognised as a Graphic Designer by proving ANY/ANY qualification you had was equivalent to at least an Australian Bachelor Degree - so a recognised degree as a psychologist (or anything - related or non-related) could get you approved as a Graphic Designer with VETASSESS prior to January 1st this year.

 

Regards


Anthony Coates MARN: 0601801

tonycoates@eircom.net

 

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Thanks for your response

 

But i still bit confused wel i checked on Vetassess website. My visa comes under B Type visa in that they have mentioned that if applicant have more than 3 yrs of experience in nominated occupation, then no need to have relevant education.

 

here are details what Welshtone mentioned.

 

Age : 27

 

English Language Score : i have applied for IELTS Exam and its on 20th march and i know for PR IELTS Band requirement is 7

 

 

Whether Graphic Designers are on any State/Territory sponsorship lists :

i have checked the url which Gill has provided and my occupation comes under "The Tasmania Government's migration website" but here i have query how does employer will sponsor me.

 

one more query where i will get information that my education is equivalent to Australian bachelor degree?

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Hi Pravin

 

Your best score would be Age = 30, IELTS minimum 7 in each of the 4 components = 25, VETASSESS as Graphic Designer = 50, specific Work Experience = 05, maybe another 05 if your degree was not taught in English - so you would need all this plus another 5 points (if your spouse was skilled for e.g.) to achieve the Independent pass-mark of 120. So it looks like you will definitely need State/Terrotory Sponsorship. ACT (Canberra) are the only Territory that are sponsoring for a permanent visa and Tasmania are the only State sponsoring for the Provisional visa. As you can't score the required 120 points, you only need to score 90 points if you can get Canberra to sponsor (passmark is 100 but you get 10 points for being sponsored). However, Canberra require certain English levels before they would consider a sponsorship - at least 7 in speaking and at least 7 overall. They also require you to have certain levels of assets as well as convince them that you know about Canberra and it's job opportunities etc. See:

 

Business and Industry Development - Skilled Migration

 

It is the "Off-list" Quota you need to look at.

 

But back to stage 1 - the skills assessment - although with at least 3 years of Graphic Design Experience you do not need a RELEVANT Degree, you do still need some qualification that is assessed as at least equivalent to an Australian Bachelor degree - so it would depend where you studied and can sometimes depend on the level of pass you achieved.

 

Regards


Anthony Coates MARN: 0601801

tonycoates@eircom.net

 

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Guest Cimbom

You may want to consider enrolling in a Graduate Diploma of Graphic Design in Australia if relevant qualifications are required. This is a one year postgraduate program which is meant to be the rough equivalent of an undergraduate major, although I'm not sure what the VETASSESS view is on these programs. As you have five years of experience, you may get recognition of prior learning credits for some units, which means you may finish quicker and/or pay lower fees. At RMIT University in Melbourne, you're looking at fees of about $19000 for the entire program. This would be lower if you got credits. You may then be eligible to move into the Masters program if you wish, although I think the Grad Dip would be enough. Hopefully, someone else with more knowledge can confirm if this is the case.

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Guys,

 

Thanks for your valuable advices...everyone is giving their views different way i am getting confused

could any one suggest me what should i do now at this stage. my aim is to get get PR till this year end.

 

Cimbom, i can not afford this much fees at this stage now for doing any diploma level program and i even checked with one of agent here he said that there might be getting problem to get visa because i have already bachelor degree and why you are going there for studying diploma program?...it will affect to my VISA too so he suggested better apply for Master degree program. is there any company who can sponsor me based on my experience and skills for webdesigner designation?

 

Thanks!

 

Regards,

Pravin

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Hey Pravin it sounds like there are so many different possibilities in your case that I think maybe your best option would be to make an appointment with a migration agent - there are some that post on this site and there are others that people on the site have used and have recommended and get their advice as to the best route for you to take. The thing is if you nominate an occupation that is not on the list of critical skills or which you may not get positive assessment for given your qualifications it can delay your plans. Once you have spoken with a migration agent and got their advice as to the best route for yourself given your skills, your working experience and also where in Australia you may want to move to you can then choose to use their services for the entire visa process or do it yourself and ask others on the forum for info regarding a specific aspect of the process. I

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Just to clarify, a graduate diploma is not the same as a TAFE diploma. You need an undergraduate degree to qualify for a graduate diploma. The units are the same as the Masters program, it is just a bit shorter.

 

Just a bit of prior warning, you may find it quite difficult to get similar employment to what you're doing now, if you move to the ACT. Most of the jobs are with federal government departments, and they only hire citizens, not permanent residents. The other positions are likely to be quite competitive I'd imagine. Many employers also seem to prefer those with "local experience". Make of that what you will.

 

Good luck

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Thanks Cimbom,

 

well could you please suggest me the such universities...where i can take post graduate diploma?

 

Regards,

Pravin

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Hi,

 

I have one more query that

 

Will the VETASSESS assessment require English language skills that is IELTS for genral skill migration visa?

 

Thanks!

Pravin

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Hi Pravin,

 

You can find the needed requirements for you to comply in applying VETASSESS Assessment. In my case, I got my positive assessment from VETASSES before I took IELTS. IELTS I think is required for State Sponsorship application along with your positive assessment from vetasses and etc.

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Thanks for reply

 

i think IELTS not require for assessment process, its require next stage that is for any VISA after assessments done clear from vetassess. am i talking right?

 

hey do u have sample of CDR(competency document report) for graphic designer. i want that i want to prepare my projects CDR in details. but dont have an idea how to start it?

 

if you have sample of CDR kindly mail me. i will be very thankful to you :)

 

Thanks!

regards,

Pravin

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Thanks for reply

 

i think IELTS not require for assessment process, its require next stage that is for any VISA after assessments done clear from vetassess. am i talking right?

 

hey do u have sample of CDR(competency document report) for graphic designer. i want that i want to prepare my projects CDR in details. but dont have an idea how to start it?

 

if you have sample of CDR kindly mail me. i will be very thankful to you :)

 

Thanks!

regards,

Pravin

 

RIGHT.

 

CDR? For the Assessment? I don't think they required me to submit one. Maybe that's the new policy, I was with the old policy

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well, that means you only required to submit latest Updated Resume and other documents at that time.

 

CDR is the word document which includes each details of all projects you have done in your professional career.

 

when u did your assessment? hey do u have any gmail id or yahoo id where we can talk separately because i have lots of queries in my mind...please help

 

Thanks!

 

Regards,

Pravin

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This is a test reply

 

Swami

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well, that means you only required to submit latest Updated Resume and other documents at that time.

 

CDR is the word document which includes each details of all projects you have done in your professional career.

 

when u did your assessment? hey do u have any gmail id or yahoo id where we can talk separately because i have lots of queries in my mind...please help

 

Thanks!

 

Regards,

Pravin

 

Dear Mr. Pravin

 

I am also a Graphic Designer from India. I applied for SIR Visa on June 2009. My application is under process. If you need any details pm me.

 

Regards

Swami

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Thanks swami for replying....well have you prepared the CDR for assessment..is it necessary to submit vetassess or updated Resume is enough?

 

Regards,

Pravin

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Thanks swami for replying....well have you prepared the CDR for assessment..is it necessary to submit vetassess or updated Resume is enough?

 

Regards,

Pravin

 

Hi

 

Send an email to me.

 

Rgds

Swami

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Hi,

 

i have one query, in occupation list "graphic designer" is mentioned in VETASSESS website

but my occupation is like creative designer it means graphic and web designer, is the "web designer" considered under graphic designer profile? or they are strictly looking "graphic designer" mentioned on employment appointment letter?

 

waiting for your response!

 

Thanks and regards,

Pravin

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Hi pravinkawale,

 

i have a question about this too... because they have GRAPHIC DESIGNER and GRAPHIC PRE-PRES TRADESPERSON, and i do work in print houses for 14 years in Brasil! i dont know wich one i shoud apply for and the requisitions for then.

 

i just sent an email for Printing Industries Association asking about this.

 

as soon as i have an answer (IF they answer ^^) ill let u know too!

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