Parley 7,917 Posted November 16 I like David Cameron. A good choice. We should make more use of our former PMs in both Australia and UK. I hope ScoMo comes in from the cold soon. Absolutely wasted on the backbench. 1 1 Buy a man eat fish. The Day, Teach Man, to lifetime. - Joe Biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simmo 21,939 Posted November 16 1 hour ago, Parley said: I like David Cameron. A good choice. We should make more use of our former PMs in both Australia and UK. I hope ScoMo comes in from the cold soon. Absolutely wasted on the backbench. Tony Abbott was a good man. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unzippy 3,970 Posted November 16 12 hours ago, simmo said: It's a bigger clown show on the other side. 56 labour MPs voted against the instructions of their leader , Inc 10 front benchers. Lot's of interest in Reform UK. That lovely. However try not to get distracted as they're not in charge. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FirstWorldProblems 2,139 Posted November 16 6 hours ago, Parley said: I like David Cameron. A good choice. We should make more use of our former PMs . Right. Which of his policy successes do you most like? 1 British | Lived in Australia 2001-02 on 457 | Married Aussie wife & moved back to UK | Plan to return to Sydney 2026 when all kids have finished school 5 Feb 2023 - 309/100 submitted | 14 Mar 2023 309 & 100 granted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FirstWorldProblems 2,139 Posted November 16 12 hours ago, simmo said: It's a bigger clown show on the other side. 56 labour MPs voted against the instructions of their leader , Inc 10 front bencher. Oh yes. 56 Labour MP’s voting contrary to instructions is absolutely a bigger clown show than the Conservative Party. You sir, are more confused than a chameleon in a box of smarties. 1 1 British | Lived in Australia 2001-02 on 457 | Married Aussie wife & moved back to UK | Plan to return to Sydney 2026 when all kids have finished school 5 Feb 2023 - 309/100 submitted | 14 Mar 2023 309 & 100 granted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simmo 21,939 Posted November 16 1 hour ago, unzippy said: That lovely. However try not to get distracted as they're not in charge. It's the only alternative dear 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simmo 21,939 Posted November 16 1 hour ago, FirstWorldProblems said: Oh yes. 56 Labour MP’s voting contrary to instructions is absolutely a bigger clown show than the Conservative Party. You sir, are more confused than a chameleon in a box of smarties. Maybe you could explain it to me then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rallyman 4,104 Posted November 16 1 hour ago, FirstWorldProblems said: Right. Which of his policy successes do you most like? The referendum to leave the EU 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FirstWorldProblems 2,139 Posted November 16 46 minutes ago, Rallyman said: The referendum to leave the EU Yes, yes, we all know you hate the U.K. You’ve been very clear that you don’t mind that decent people suffer as it declines. 1 British | Lived in Australia 2001-02 on 457 | Married Aussie wife & moved back to UK | Plan to return to Sydney 2026 when all kids have finished school 5 Feb 2023 - 309/100 submitted | 14 Mar 2023 309 & 100 granted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parley 7,917 Posted November 16 28 minutes ago, FirstWorldProblems said: Yes, yes, we all know you hate the U.K. You’ve been very clear that you don’t mind that decent people suffer as it declines. David Cameron wanted to remain in the EU as you know. It was the British people who wanted out. So abuse your fellow citizens for their democratic vote if you like. 2 Buy a man eat fish. The Day, Teach Man, to lifetime. - Joe Biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FirstWorldProblems 2,139 Posted November 16 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Parley said: David Cameron wanted to remain in the EU as you know. It was the British people who wanted out. So abuse your fellow citizens for their democratic vote if you like. Oops. I think you missed the question asking which of his policy successes you most admire. Edited November 16 by FirstWorldProblems British | Lived in Australia 2001-02 on 457 | Married Aussie wife & moved back to UK | Plan to return to Sydney 2026 when all kids have finished school 5 Feb 2023 - 309/100 submitted | 14 Mar 2023 309 & 100 granted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parley 7,917 Posted November 16 I don't follow it in minute detail but he won several elections didn't he so was obviously a good leader of the Conservative Party. What I said was I like him. He is a good communicator and will be effective on the world stage negotiating with other world leaders ( in my opinion). Is it ok if i have an opinion? 1 1 Buy a man eat fish. The Day, Teach Man, to lifetime. - Joe Biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BendigoBoy 179 Posted November 16 18 hours ago, unzippy said: Yes, lets have the man who made the UK a laughing stock on the international stage be foreign secretary! I presume you're talking about the pig, here? After all, it was the good voting public of the UK who pulled the real rabbit out of the hat in terms of making the country look a laughing stock. 1 1 Software Engineer by trade. Gardener by heart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BendigoBoy 179 Posted November 16 9 hours ago, Parley said: I hope ScoMo comes in from the cold soon. Absolutely wasted on the backbench. Please, dear God, tell me that's a joke. I just about choked on my tea when I read that. 3 1 2 Software Engineer by trade. Gardener by heart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FirstWorldProblems 2,139 Posted November 16 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Parley said: I don't follow it in minute detail but he won several elections didn't he so was obviously a good leader of the Conservative Party. What I said was I like him. He is a good communicator and will be effective on the world stage negotiating with other world leaders ( in my opinion). Is it ok if i have an opinion? He is statesman like. He is a lot more measured and composed than the lot that came after him. But he wasn’t successful. I voted for him. But honestly I struggle to think of a single policy success that he had. My question was sincere because I think we’ve all forgotten he was a failure just because he what came after was so shambolic I don’t think it’s good that he is back. But…..who else? The others are worse. At least he won’t be a daily embarrassment I suppose. Edited November 16 by FirstWorldProblems 2 1 British | Lived in Australia 2001-02 on 457 | Married Aussie wife & moved back to UK | Plan to return to Sydney 2026 when all kids have finished school 5 Feb 2023 - 309/100 submitted | 14 Mar 2023 309 & 100 granted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InnerVoice 1,254 Posted November 16 9 minutes ago, FirstWorldProblems said: He is statesman like. He is a lot more measured and composed than the lot that came after him. But he wasn’t successful. I voted for him. But honestly I struggle to think of a single policy success that he had. I don’t think it’s good that he is back. But…..who else? The others are worse. At least he won’t be a daily embarrassment I suppose. That's exactly what I think, but it's about all he's going for him really. About the only policy I recall agreeing with was legalizing same-sex marriage, which was more a natural evolvement of societal values and expectations than a stroke of political genius. If you look at the list of policies during his tenure; austerity measures, introducing universal credit, free schools (which weren't free at all), and NHS 'reforms' - all ways to suck money out of the public system and put it into government coffers - you can see now why the UK's now in the state it's in. 1 Australian Citizen since 2007 | Returned to the UK 2008-2011 | Lived in Sydney, Brisbane and Cairns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InnerVoice 1,254 Posted November 16 10 hours ago, Parley said: I hope ScoMo comes in from the cold soon. Absolutely wasted on the backbench. 21 minutes ago, BendigoBoy said: Please, dear God, tell me that's a joke. I just about choked on my tea when I read that. I thought Scotty from Marketing was 'all right', as far as politicians go - much better than the one-trick pony we've got at the moment. 1 Australian Citizen since 2007 | Returned to the UK 2008-2011 | Lived in Sydney, Brisbane and Cairns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BendigoBoy 179 Posted November 16 19 minutes ago, InnerVoice said: I thought Scotty from Marketing was 'all right', as far as politicians go - much better than the one-trick pony we've got at the moment. To each their own. I'll just never be able to digest him secretly taking on all those ministries. Leaves one hell of a foul taste in the mouth. A bit like his raw chicken curry. 2 2 Software Engineer by trade. Gardener by heart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InnerVoice 1,254 Posted November 16 29 minutes ago, BendigoBoy said: To each their own. I'll just never be able to digest him secretly taking on all those ministries. Leaves one hell of a foul taste in the mouth. A bit like his raw chicken curry. I agree, that wasn't right, but he was no longer PM by then. I'm sure if he had of been the fallout would've resulted in his downfall. He could've been out on his ear after the bushfire debacle but he managed to get back in time and say 'sorry', and he took enough flack over it until we'd all decided he'd been sufficiently humiliated. In my opinion I think he was a good leader throughout the pandemic and made the right call on (most of) the big decisions, which saved thousands of lives in the long run. 1 Australian Citizen since 2007 | Returned to the UK 2008-2011 | Lived in Sydney, Brisbane and Cairns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marisawright 10,918 Posted November 17 55 minutes ago, InnerVoice said: I agree, that wasn't right, but he was no longer PM by then. I'm sure if he had of been the fallout would've resulted in his downfall. He could've been out on his ear after the bushfire debacle but he managed to get back in time and say 'sorry', and he took enough flack over it until we'd all decided he'd been sufficiently humiliated. In my opinion I think he was a good leader throughout the pandemic and made the right call on (most of) the big decisions, which saved thousands of lives in the long run. But he wasn't really leading during the pandemic, he had the National Cabinet (all the state premiers) who collectively bullied him into doing the right thing. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BendigoBoy 179 Posted November 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, unzippy said: Ah, the happy father. Wonder if he left it behind in the pub after lunch... Edited November 17 by BendigoBoy 1 Software Engineer by trade. Gardener by heart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobj 10,329 Posted November 17 Advertising, Dunnit make you want to spit! These people give me the screaming ab—dabs. Heard an advert telling me to buy an article as 45% off. Off what? They never say, could be 45% off for a bag of marbles. So we don’t know what the original price is And, they say to save a HUGE 15 cents off an article than on another advert, tell you that you only pay a small $125. The mind boggles at the ways and distances to sell an article. Christmas and the other family do’s are a stupidly insane time I saw an advert for Mothers’ Day where it said Mum would just live this diamond ring at $227.50. I wonder how a child is going to buy that. On the never-never? BAH HUMBUG! Seems to me that the advertisers have lost the real meaning of Christmas and other family times. Cheers, Bobj 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simmo 21,939 Posted November 17 17 hours ago, simmo said: Tony Abbott was a good man. Easy on the eye too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rallyman 4,104 Posted November 17 10 hours ago, FirstWorldProblems said: Yes, yes, we all know you hate the U.K. You’ve been very clear that you don’t mind that decent people suffer as it declines. Have you got any evidence that I hate the uk ? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites