I know no one will care but...........

[ramot 7,092]

My daughter had to get her blood taken on Friday ( has heamachromotosis, so has blood taken regularly) and still had to take a covid test first! 

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[Lavers 1,464]

35 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

So they're not state-owned, totally different thing.  

No, not because the BBC told me.   How do you know it's not?  Because the Russian troll farms told you ?

I don’t, but that’s why I don’t mention trolls and dismiss everything.

Heres an easy one, start of Ukraine war Russia where taking out what they said where American bio labs.

America denied this but things kept circulating on social media and guess what, America admitted it was true.

Granted there is plenty of crap on the internet but it has also shown us plenty of truth.

[Marisawright 10,920]

2 hours ago, Lavers said:

I don’t, but that’s why I don’t mention trolls and dismiss everything.

Heres an easy one, start of Ukraine war Russia where taking out what they said where American bio labs.

America denied this but things kept circulating on social media and guess what, America admitted it was true.

Did they?  The quote is below.  Now, you are free to say, "Oh that's just a cover up" but the fact is, the American did not admit it was true. You are choosing to put a spin on what they actually said.  You're free to do that, but you're distorting the facts if you say they admitted it was true. You're distorting the truth to suit what you want to believe. Not a good thing.

The State Department said Ms. Nuland was referring to Ukrainian diagnostic and biodefense laboratories during her testimony, which are different from biological weapons facilities. Rather, these biodefense laboratories counter biological threats throughout the country, the department said.

Mr. Rubio made the same clarification in another congressional hearing on Thursday, noting that “there’s a difference between a bioweapons facility and one that’s doing research.”

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[FirstWorldProblems 2,139]

5 hours ago, Lavers said:

Sorry I’m talking more about the UK, but no matter which country it is most media will spout out what the government asks them.

Same with newspapers, you’ve got your main newspapers which people believe are gospel, then anything printed outside of these are conspiracies.

It’s the other way around.  The press, owned by billionaires with wide and varied business interests, choose who gets elected. Who they put their power behind.  You would fun the Murdoch documentary interesting I think. 

Not that it changes the essence of your point, which is that a small number of people control the narrative- but it’s not the press doing the bidding of government, it’s the government doing what the media owners want because without them they don’t get into power and they certainly don’t stay there. 

[Lavers 1,464]

4 hours ago, Marisawright said:

Did they?  The quote is below.  Now, you are free to say, "Oh that's just a cover up" but the fact is, the American did not admit it was true. You are choosing to put a spin on what they actually said.  You're free to do that, but you're distorting the facts if you say they admitted it was true. You're distorting the truth to suit what you want to believe. Not a good thing.

The State Department said Ms. Nuland was referring to Ukrainian diagnostic and biodefense laboratories during her testimony, which are different from biological weapons facilities. Rather, these biodefense laboratories counter biological threats throughout the country, the department said.

Mr. Rubio made the same clarification in another congressional hearing on Thursday, noting that “there’s a difference between a bioweapons facility and one that’s doing research.”

I think you are the one being very naive there Marissa.

[Lavers 1,464]

3 hours ago, FirstWorldProblems said:

It’s the other way around.  The press, owned by billionaires with wide and varied business interests, choose who gets elected. Who they put their power behind.  You would fun the Murdoch documentary interesting I think. 

Not that it changes the essence of your point, which is that a small number of people control the narrative- but it’s not the press doing the bidding of government, it’s the government doing what the media owners want because without them they don’t get into power and they certainly don’t stay there. 

I’ll have a look for that cheers.

Agreed, all politicians are bought through the funding they receive for there campaigns etc and the elites put there money behind whoever is going to be more favourable towards there needs.

Youve got the 3 big financial companies who I’d say have the say in most things.

[InnerVoice 1,264]

5 hours ago, Lavers said:

I don’t, but that’s why I don’t mention trolls and dismiss everything.

Heres an easy one, start of Ukraine war Russia where taking out what they said where American bio labs.

America denied this but things kept circulating on social media and guess what, America admitted it was true.

Granted there is plenty of crap on the internet but it has also shown us plenty of truth.

The BBC did a 'fact check' on the above story where it was explained in some depth that the bio labs were part of a Biological Threat Reduction Program.

https://www.bbc.com/news/60711705

Generally I trust BBC to provide factually-correct information. I've noticed in recent years they are more prone to media bias to make their articles edgier, but I think this is so they can keep up with the tabloids rather than trying to mislead the public. When this article was written the narrative was clearly "Ukraine good, Russia bad", which pandered to most people's shock and outrage at the Russian invasion. I really didn't like the spin but facts are facts, and when you cross-reference the article with other reputable sources they seem to concur.

We should all stop looking for information that supports our preconceptions because it gives us a quick buzz, and just focus on the facts.

[Amber Snowball 1,399]

IKNWC - I am watching Escape to the Country and they are in West Parley in Dorset, @Parley

[Blue Manna 310]

I have to say that I'm enjoying Succession. Nearly finished.

[Parley 7,918]

7 hours ago, Amber Snowball said:

IKNWC - I am watching Escape to the Country and they are in West Parley in Dorset, @Parley

That is the place where i was born @Amber Snowball

[Lavers 1,464]

11 hours ago, InnerVoice said:

The BBC did a 'fact check' on the above story where it was explained in some depth that the bio labs were part of a Biological Threat Reduction Program.

https://www.bbc.com/news/60711705

Generally I trust BBC to provide factually-correct information. I've noticed in recent years they are more prone to media bias to make their articles edgier, but I think this is so they can keep up with the tabloids rather than trying to mislead the public. When this article was written the narrative was clearly "Ukraine good, Russia bad", which pandered to most people's shock and outrage at the Russian invasion. I really didn't like the spin but facts are facts, and when you cross-reference the article with other reputable sources they seem to concur.

We should all stop looking for information that supports our preconceptions because it gives us a quick buzz, and just focus on the facts.

Again though you can’t claim its facts it is just what we are being told.

Id guess that if we were in Russia then what the BBC and other western media where saying would be lies and Russia would be saying facts are facts.

Just comes down to what you want to believe I suppose.

 

[ramot 7,092]

7 hours ago, Amber Snowball said:

IKNWC - I am watching Escape to the Country and they are in West Parley in Dorset, @Parley

I’ve seen two people I know on Escape to the country, it was really weird randomly watching a show and then doing a double take as I realised.

One was a friend from our Brunei days, and the other was someone who contacted us and we then met to try to arrange a house swap.

[Toots 12,302]

22 minutes ago, ramot said:

I’ve seen two people I know on Escape to the country, it was really weird randomly watching a show and then doing a double take as I realised.

One was a friend from our Brunei days, and the other was someone who contacted us and we then met to try to arrange a house swap.

I haven't watched Escape to the Country for a long time.  I never saw anyone ever actually buying the properties they looked at.  

[InnerVoice 1,264]

52 minutes ago, Parley said:

That is the place where i was born @Amber Snowball

I often wondered why you were called @Parley - I just thought it was because you talked a lot. There's another mystery solved!

I've also wondered about @ramot too. I believe her first name starts with an 'M' and she has 3 children, so maybe 'ramot' is an acronym of her family members' names?

'Inner Voice' is to remind me to listen to the inner voice when it comes to the big decisions.

[InnerVoice 1,264]

23 minutes ago, Toots said:

I haven't watched Escape to the Country for a long time.  I never saw anyone ever actually buying the properties they looked at.  

Me neither. What a bunch of tyre-kickers they always are - I don't know where they find these people?!

[Bulya 2,857]

26 minutes ago, Toots said:

I haven't watched Escape to the Country for a long time.  I never saw anyone ever actually buying the properties they looked at.  

I did.  Haven’t watched it for years though as it was pretty silly.  The one where the woman moaned about the table in the kitchen was the last one I saw.  

[ramot 7,092]

3 hours ago, InnerVoice said:

I often wondered why you were called @Parley - I just thought it was because you talked a lot. There's another mystery solved!

I've also wondered about @ramot too. I believe her first name starts with an 'M' and she has 3 children, so maybe 'ramot' is an acronym of her family members' names?

'Inner Voice' is to remind me to listen to the inner voice when it comes to the big decisions.

Ramot is just the reverse of my husband’s and my first 3 letters of our names, as I had used it the other way on another website, with a mutual m in the middle, nothing clever

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[InnerVoice 1,264]

40 minutes ago, ramot said:

Ramot is just the reverse of my husband’s and my first 3 letters of our names, as I had used it the other way on another website, with a mutual m in the middle, nothing clever

Well I wasn't far off. My dad said his first job was working for a company run by a couple called Phillip and Flora, so they named the company 'Philora'  - some people clearly take this kind of thing a bit too far!

[Amber Snowball 1,399]

7 hours ago, Parley said:

That is the place where i was born @Amber Snowball

I thought I had remembered that correctly! It looked beautiful. 

[Amber Snowball 1,399]

6 hours ago, InnerVoice said:

I often wondered why you were called @Parley - I just thought it was because you talked a lot. There's another mystery solved!

I've also wondered about @ramot too. I believe her first name starts with an 'M' and she has 3 children, so maybe 'ramot' is an acronym of her family members' names?

'Inner Voice' is to remind me to listen to the inner voice when it comes to the big decisions.

Parley used to be Parley Cross on here, so it nudged something in my memory when I saw it.

I should listen to my inner voice a lot more as well!

[Amber Snowball 1,399]

7 hours ago, Toots said:

I haven't watched Escape to the Country for a long time.  I never saw anyone ever actually buying the properties they looked at.  

They do revisit people who bought properties sometimes. So I assume some must actually step up! 
I like looking at houses. frustrated estate agent I am! Or just really nosey…….

[Marisawright 10,920]

7 hours ago, Lavers said:

Just comes down to what you want to believe I suppose.

Well no, I hope that's not what it comes down to. it should come down to doing your research across several different sources, keeping an open mind, and then deciding which is the most likely to be true.  

For instance, if I listened to a broadcast which claimed the Americans had "admitted to having biological weapons labs" and then I found that was a blatant lie, (i.e. that there is no record anywhere of any American official admitting to it), then I would be pretty stupid to trust anything else that broadcaster said, wouldn't I?  I'd probably give them another chance to prove they're reliable, but I'd have to double-check everything they said -- and if I caught them distorting the truth again, I'd certainly stop listening to them.

It does sadden me that too many people seem to be throwing up their hands and just believing what they want to believe, which is often the easier option that doesn't require them to DO anything.  

[Lavers 1,464]

2 hours ago, Marisawright said:

Well no, I hope that's not what it comes down to. it should come down to doing your research across several different sources, keeping an open mind, and then deciding which is the most likely to be true.  

For instance, if I listened to a broadcast which claimed the Americans had "admitted to having biological weapons labs" and then I found that was a blatant lie, (i.e. that there is no record anywhere of any American official admitting to it), then I would be pretty stupid to trust anything else that broadcaster said, wouldn't I?  I'd probably give them another chance to prove they're reliable, but I'd have to double-check everything they said -- and if I caught them distorting the truth again, I'd certainly stop listening to them.

It does sadden me that too many people seem to be throwing up their hands and just believing what they want to believe, which is often the easier option that doesn't require them to DO anything.  

Ok so they are “biological research facilities” so what I meant is it’s up to you in this instance Di you believe that is all they are, or do you not believe them and believe that there is more too it.

Ultimately it’s not a “blatant lie” is it, they denied having anything when Russia said what they were doing, but then it’s a case of ok yes we do have labs but they are just for research.

I’d imagine a big chunk of people just believe whatever they are told by mainstream media so I don’t understand your last paragraph, also regarding this how much research have you done on it? Or did you do a quick google see the first fact-check and go off that?

Also if you stopped listening to media who distorted the truth I don’t think there would be much left.

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[Ken 1,739]

2 hours ago, Amber Snowball said:

Parley used to be Parley Cross on here, so it nudged something in my memory when I saw it.

I should listen to my inner voice a lot more as well!

What do you mean used to be? Parley's still Cross frequently.

[Ken 1,739]

8 minutes ago, Lavers said:

Ok so they are “biological research facilities” so what I meant is it’s up to you in this instance Di you believe that is all they are, or do you not believe them and believe that there is more too it.

Ultimately it’s not a “blatant lie” is it, they denied having anything when Russia said what they were doing, but then it’s a case of ok yes we do have labs but they are just for research.

I’d imagine a big chunk of people just believe whatever they are told by mainstream media so I don’t understand your last paragraph, also regarding this how much research have you done on it? Or did you do a quick google see the first fact-check and go off that?

Well, I for one am never going to watch C-SPAN3 again (largely because I've never watched or heard of them before) so that should keep me clear of at least some of the fake news.