I know no one will care but...........

[Toots 12,307]

13 hours ago, simmo said:

Silly cow.

She always was a  bit of a political activist so she can't help herself. jumping on the bandwagon.  This is pushing things a bit too far though.  Silly old moo.

[simmo 21,945]

4 hours ago, theonetruechris said:

You've gone a bit early there Simmo, but good to see you on board

I don't get all the fuss TBH. Also not sure why a whole month.  Must cost ££££££s

[Blue Flu 1,172]

22 hours ago, Blue Flu said:

A lot on his plate. The Perth Mint 9 billion dollar 'doping' for one. The auditing still going on I believe. Recent youth detention riot , that saw him change his stance from that of the rioters being  akin to terrorists, to which his tone changed a few days later after being critiqued. Lots more going down in The State of Excitement (as so termed back in the eighties on number plates) Perhaps he left before being 'pushed'? 

Only just back from a trio kowtowing to the Chinese. He had big plans there as well with developing ties. A lot could be said on that and just how much WA is benefitting, but not for a forum as this. 

It appears no one had any idea he was about to dismount the saddle. All too easy to state exhaustion. Almost a copy from recall from recent Arden resignation speech across the ditch in New Zealand. 

No apparent successor seems to come to mind to commentators. 

Interesting Jason Waters has left his position of one year as in charge of The Perth Mint. A day after the Premier of WA's shock resignation . Waters has moved to the top job at Perth Airport. The revolving door syndrome so common? 

McGowan will be entitled to $275,000 a year for live, plus expected to be snapped up by a mining concern or other big business for an earning of at least $600,000 a year. 

As the media is very 'compliant' in WA, we may never know all going on behind the scenes. If we do, more likely to come from sources outside of this state. 

[theonetruechris 313]

7 hours ago, simmo said:

I don't get all the fuss TBH. Also not sure why a whole month.  Must cost ££££££s

You don't need to 'get all the fuss' all you need Simmo is empathy just a little empathy

[simmo 21,945]

53 minutes ago, theonetruechris said:

You don't need to 'get all the fuss' all you need Simmo is empathy just a little empathy

for a whole month!?

[Parley 7,918]

9 hours ago, theonetruechris said:

You don't need to 'get all the fuss' all you need Simmo is empathy just a little empathy

Empathy for what?

People who are ashamed need empathy. People who are proud of who they are don't need empathy.

[HappyHeart 14,374]

1 hour ago, Parley said:

Empathy for what?

People who are ashamed need empathy. People who are proud of who they are don't need empathy.

Oh wow! That comment is so revealing. You clearly don't understand empathy. I needed the shocked emoji not the laughing one because that's actually not funny. 

Did you ever consider empathy as a human emotion that considers another's lived experience that is challenging? Nothing to do with shame. Pride is about the opposite which can only be a good thing for most. Being proud of who you are and not hiding away because of a lack of acceptance, understanding  and tolerance. 

Edited May 30 by HappyHeart

[unzippy 3,972]

On 30/05/2023 at 00:30, simmo said:

Happy Pride month.

How will you be celebrating?

Unless you're in Florida.  That chap that @Parley admires seems to be inflicting his opinions on others:

"Anti-LGBT+ laws put in place by Florida Governor and presidential candidate Ron DeSantis have triggered a “mass migration” out of the state, a Pride organiser has said."

 

https://news.yahoo.com/gay-floridians-leaving-droves-says-000209821.html

[HappyHeart 14,374]

For clarity-

What is Empathy? The term “empathy” is used to describe a wide range of experiences. Emotion researchers generally define empathy as the ability to sense other people's emotions, coupled with the ability to imagine what someone else might be thinking or feeling.

[Lavers 1,464]

4 minutes ago, unzippy said:

Unless you're in Florida.  That chap that @Parley admires seems to be inflicting his opinions on others:

"Anti-LGBT+ laws put in place by Florida Governor and presidential candidate Ron DeSantis have triggered a “mass migration” out of the state, a Pride organiser has said."

 

https://news.yahoo.com/gay-floridians-leaving-droves-says-000209821.html

Probably still more people moving there than there is moving out.

[HappyHeart 14,374]

27 minutes ago, Lavers said:

Probably still more people moving there than there is moving out.

How on earth do you know?

[Parley 7,918]

2 hours ago, HappyHeart said:

For clarity-

What is Empathy? The term “empathy” is used to describe a wide range of experiences. Emotion researchers generally define empathy as the ability to sense other people's emotions, coupled with the ability to imagine what someone else might be thinking or feeling.

That is my whole point.

If someone is saying I'm proud that is great. It doesn't sound like they need my empathy. You are implying they have all had a terrible life and we should all feel sorry for them.

[Lavers 1,464]

2 hours ago, HappyHeart said:

How on earth do you know?

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/12/florida-fastest-growing-state.html

[HappyHeart 14,374]

54 minutes ago, Parley said:

That is my whole point.

If someone is saying I'm proud that is great. It doesn't sound like they need my empathy. You are implying they have all had a terrible life and we should all feel sorry for them.

Well a lot have had a rough trot to be fair. It’s not about feeling sorry for them it’s about trying to understand the challenges faced? Empathy. That’s what it means. Different to sympathy 

[simmo 21,945]

16 hours ago, theonetruechris said:

You don't need to 'get all the fuss' all you need Simmo is empathy just a little empathy

I know it's a bit of a cliché but I actually do know a lot of gay people and most tend to roll their eyes on all of this pride stuff.  It's great that we have acceptance now and rightly so.  But "pride" ? Are we supposed to be proud of gay people? If so why? Or are gay people "proud" if so why.  And why just for being gay? There's millions of battles (mentaly and physically) humans endeavour on a daily basis, do we separate them all and give them a month? A MONTH! why a whole month? We have D day, remembrance Day, mother's day, father's Day, etc, etc...  My observation is that these things (Pride month, Black history month ect.)are dividing us all into groups when we should be uniting. 

 

[Lavers 1,464]

3 hours ago, HappyHeart said:

Well a lot have had a rough trot to be fair. It’s not about feeling sorry for them it’s about trying to understand the challenges faced? Empathy. That’s what it means. Different to sympathy 

The thing with the LGBT movement is that a lot of the old school gays etc distance themselves from this, and that is the generation which probably suffered most compared to todays generation.

Being gay even 10 yrs ago is nothing comparable to today.

[theonetruechris 313]

1 hour ago, Lavers said:

The thing with the LGBT movement is that a lot of the old school gays etc distance themselves from this, and that is the generation which probably suffered most compared to todays generation.

Being gay even 10 yrs ago is nothing comparable to today.

Are you saying that our elders are distancing themselves from empathy or the whole pride thing? As my experience within the LGBTQIA 'community' is absolutely opposite to this on both counts. They have lived the history and have the scars. They know how things have changed and how much more is left to do.

[Lavers 1,464]

10 minutes ago, theonetruechris said:

Are you saying that our elders are distancing themselves from empathy or the whole pride thing? As my experience within the LGBTQIA 'community' is absolutely opposite to this on both counts. They have lived the history and have the scars. They know how things have changed and how much more is left to do.

Obviously not all elders but some will distance themselves from the movement.

Yes things have changed massively over the years and have for many groups of people and this will always be the case.

So what is the end goal for you?

Out of curiosity how much hate have you suffered over the years?

Edited May 31 by Lavers

[Toots 12,307]

Very stormy weather here.  Howling wind and driving rain.  The electricity in our street and the street next to us went off.  Out came the big flashlights and battery radio.  Log heater keeping us warm.  We were nice and cosy wondering how long it would be until power returned then after a couple of hours the power came on again.  Better go and get dinner on. 

[InnerVoice 1,265]

1 hour ago, Toots said:

Very stormy weather here.  Howling wind and driving rain.  The electricity in our street and the street next to us went off.  Out came the big flashlights and battery radio.  Log heater keeping us warm.  We were nice and cosy wondering how long it would be until power returned then after a couple of hours the power came on again.  Better go and get dinner on. 

Good to hear your warm and cosy, Toots. Up hear we're always warm but only ever feel cosy when cyclone rolls in and we need to nail all the doors and windows shut!

[Bulya 2,862]

Origin underway!

[theonetruechris 313]

Go the maroons

[calNgary 9,292]

1 hour ago, Toots said:

Very stormy weather here.  Howling wind and driving rain.  The electricity in our street and the street next to us went off.  Out came the big flashlights and battery radio.  Log heater keeping us warm.  We were nice and cosy wondering how long it would be until power returned then after a couple of hours the power came on again.  Better go and get dinner on. 

Its quite chilly here in SEQ , we have some winds but no rain or storms. It is bright sunshine during the day so ok if you are outside but onxce in a building it is freezing!! 

 Stay safe and warm

   Cal x

[theonetruechris 313]

5 hours ago, simmo said:

I know it's a bit of a cliché but I actually do know a lot of gay people and most tend to roll their eyes on all of this pride stuff.  It's great that we have acceptance now and rightly so.  But "pride" ? Are we supposed to be proud of gay people? If so why? Or are gay people "proud" if so why.  And why just for being gay? There's millions of battles (mentaly and physically) humans endeavour on a daily basis, do we separate them all and give them a month? A MONTH! why a whole month? We have D day, remembrance Day, mother's day, father's Day, etc, etc...  My observation is that these things (Pride month, Black history month ect.)are dividing us all into groups when we should be uniting. 

 

So why wish everyone a happy pride month when you're clearly not behind it. It seems a little disingenuous, almost feels as if you're trying to be provocative just for the sake of it. But that's just my take

[FirstWorldProblems 2,142]

6 hours ago, simmo said:

I know it's a bit of a cliché but I actually do know a lot of gay people and most tend to roll their eyes on all of this pride stuff.  It's great that we have acceptance now and rightly so.  But "pride" ? Are we supposed to be proud of gay people? If so why? Or are gay people "proud" if so why.  And why just for being gay? There's millions of battles (mentaly and physically) humans endeavour on a daily basis, do we separate them all and give them a month? A MONTH! why a whole month? We have D day, remembrance Day, mother's day, father's Day, etc, etc...  My observation is that these things (Pride month, Black history month ect.)are dividing us all into groups when we should be uniting. 

 

My completely unresearched and uneducated opinion is that the Pride movement was about bringing equity after decades and decades of inequality.  I might have shared previously that my friends father took his own life in 1985 after being arrested when he was 'caught' with another man.  My sister and her wife never had children because they were worried about them getting a hard time.  Such a shame as they would have been tremendous parents.  Everyone here could contribute to a book of stories about people they know who were treated somehow 'lesser' than a straight person.   

Equality wasn't enough.  Saying that we will henceforth treat a disadvantaged group equally tends to offer protection in law, but attitudes are very slow to shift.  Pride over-compensated to address that and has been very successful.

I've wondered if it's no longer needed.  After all we live in much more enlightened times than in 1985.  But we've seen recently how easy it is for situations to regress - just look at women rights in the so-called Land of The Free!

It's interesting your comment about these initiatives dividing us.  I don't personally observe that.  It's more a spotlight being shone onto a group for a while to increase awareness.