I know no one will care but...........

[Blue Flu 1,173]

4 hours ago, HappyHeart said:

What about monkey dust? Rife in my home town. Zombies walking around whacked off their heads. Spice too. Coke. Coke is a massive problem in the Uk and cheaper than booze. My cousin is clean after battling a years long coke addiction. It’s just as bad if not worse there. My viewpoint based on what I’ve seen and experienced here and there. The vape epidemic is also very disturbing. My heart bleeds after we all but eliminated cigarette smoking. Some asshole comes up with candy flavour vapes. It’s immoral. 

Don't know pensioners and older people, (retirees) young couples with a baby, families with older kids cooking Ice never a good look. Again I refer to the greed not those addicted. A 'methed' up family is a messed up family. In morals and integrity  at the very least. Sad to witness so many migrants in on it. 

[simmo 21,953]

22 hours ago, Blue Flu said:

It is a ten billion dollar industry plus in Australia , as such of course highly corruptible. It doesn't help that Australians are the highest recreational drug users in the world. Not all is reported. Not by far. In fact this thread is aptly named, "I know no one will care"  Unless of course you have a relative or loved one addicted to the grub drug methamphetamine. Or as in my case, your partner has come close to a crack head going through a red light and coming close to cleaning her up. Or indeed having to endure almost a home invasion at three in the morning , after requesting crack heads (and manufacturers ) to please keep the noise down. No support tendered by usual expected sources. Could go on but you'll get the jest. 

Amphetamine was a big thing when I was there.  The brickies and concrete workers (mainly) would use it to get as many shifts in as they could.  Same in the mines.  I stayed in dongers a couple of times in moranbah qld and it was rife. Just so they could get the shifts in.  

[simmo 21,953]

RIP Tina Turner.

One of the few "megastars" left.

Overrated IMO.

[HappyHeart 14,377]

22 hours ago, Blue Flu said:

I as well. No problem helping out in a practical sense . Not keen as a rule to give money though. 

I’ve no issue giving money. If they spend it on a bottle of grog and it makes them feel better for a short time that’s their business. Life is short. Some of these people are absolutely wretched with very little hope of getting help. Who are we to judge their choices? I understand not wanting to enable though. 

[Blue Flu 1,173]

20 minutes ago, HappyHeart said:

I’ve no issue giving money. If they spend it on a bottle of grog and it makes them feel better for a short time that’s their business. Life is short. Some of these people are absolutely wretched with very little hope of getting help. Who are we to judge their choices? I understand not wanting to enable though. 

That goes along the lines of people having a free choice to take drugs or not. It helps the conscious of the person making such an utterance of course. The reality is addiction to a grub drug like methamphetamine doesn't solely impact on the individual. It reverberates within society. From the mental health outcomes, to the violence often ensuring, to the traffic fatalities impacting innocent people, to the costs of prison, corruption, declining morals, impact on children, domestic violence and so on. 

Those engaged in the methamphetamine to which I know a few, often cite the impacts of alcohol as being as bad, even worse. What should be considered though, to which I tell them, is that alcohol is a social lubrication in the right setting. It is legal and as for abuse being greater, well obviously. Far, far more engage in it. Where it is a problem it needs to be equally addressed. Meth should be legalised to take it out of the hands of the cartels. It corrupts far too many people in the process. 

I am not a moralist in the true sense . I don't like to give cash but have done a few occasions when a person was honest enough that they wanted it for alcohol. I would not give it for the smoking of a crack pipe though. 

[InnerVoice 1,283]

On 23/05/2023 at 16:31, BritChickx said:

Thank you  

We are moving to Wollongong in NSW. 

@BritChickx I love 'The Gong'! Beautiful location and vilified by most Sydneysiders as being a bit downmarket, but very underrated. You'll have easy access to the Sapphire Coast, which is one of the most beautiful stretches of coastline in Australian 

[Blue Flu 1,173]

4 hours ago, simmo said:

Amphetamine was a big thing when I was there.  The brickies and concrete workers (mainly) would use it to get as many shifts in as they could.  Same in the mines.  I stayed in dongers a couple of times in moranbah qld and it was rife. Just so they could get the shifts in.  

Don't recall what years you were here now. But it was some time ago. Not only far more in use, but far more' democratised ' as well would be a term I would use for it. A youngish 'lady; speaking about this a few weeks back seemed to be of the opinion with/if meth labs in my street I somehow would be more protected from crime. Odd thinking. reflecting back on what have experienced around that matter. But she also stated, that finally ordinary people have a chance to make some good money. Which is the crux of the issue. Why go to a work place at all? 

[Blue Flu 1,173]

4 hours ago, simmo said:

RIP Tina Turner.

One of the few "megastars" left.

Overrated IMO.

 I note that 'professional Australian' Rolf Harris passing  didn't get a mention. An embarrassment all round probably fair to say.  

[InnerVoice 1,283]

19 minutes ago, Blue Flu said:

 I note that 'professional Australian' Rolf Harris passing  didn't get a mention. An embarrassment all round probably fair to say.  

The media did their best to erase it in both in the UK and Australia, but they know that censorship is an attack on free speech so they couldn't ignore it completely. It must've been relief that another celebrity died at the same time so they could dredge up numerous articles about her career, which ended long before Rolf Harris's.

[Nemesis 1,922]

39 minutes ago, InnerVoice said:

The media did their best to erase it in both in the UK and Australia, but they know that censorship is an attack on free speech so they couldn't ignore it completely. It must've been relief that another celebrity died at the same time so they could dredge up numerous articles about her career, which ended long before Rolf Harris's.

Was mentioned a fair bit in the UK press and on the news, and ITV is running frequent trailers of a drama/docu about his conviction. It certainly wasn't ignored over here.

[s713 2,065]

11 hours ago, HappyHeart said:

What about monkey dust? Rife in my home town. Zombies walking around whacked off their heads. Spice too. Coke. Coke is a massive problem in the Uk and cheaper than booze. My cousin is clean after battling a years long coke addiction. It’s just as bad if not worse there. My viewpoint based on what I’ve seen and experienced here and there. The vape epidemic is also very disturbing. My heart bleeds after we all but eliminated cigarette smoking. Some asshole comes up with candy flavour vapes. It’s immoral. 

Must admit, I've never heard of spice or monkey dust (brilliant name). But yeah vaping is massive, half the kids seem to be doing it on their way to school and the nicotine content in those disposable ones is quite high. They'll be banned soon and all the kids will be turkey-ing 

[Parley 7,921]

10 hours ago, s713 said:

Must admit, I've never heard of spice or monkey dust (brilliant name). But yeah vaping is massive, half the kids seem to be doing it on their way to school and the nicotine content in those disposable ones is quite high. They'll be banned soon and all the kids will be turkey-ing 

Vaping will be banned like chop chop is banned. But lots of smokers know where to buy it.

[s713 2,065]

1 minute ago, Parley said:

Vaping will be banned like chop chop is banned. But lots of smokers know where to buy it.

No idea what that means.

[Parley 7,921]

2 minutes ago, s713 said:

No idea what that means.

DYOR

[s713 2,065]

1 minute ago, Parley said:

DYOR

I don't know what that means either. I think we best leave it.

[theonetruechris 313]

2 hours ago, s713 said:

No idea what that means.

Chop chop? its the dodgy cigarettes / tobacco that's unregulated and has who knows what in it. To say its disgusting doesn't do it justice. I tried one once - never again. I get some people cant afford to smoke but dear god that is not the answer.

[Blue Flu 1,173]

13 hours ago, s713 said:

Must admit, I've never heard of spice or monkey dust (brilliant name). But yeah vaping is massive, half the kids seem to be doing it on their way to school and the nicotine content in those disposable ones is quite high. They'll be banned soon and all the kids will be turkey-ing 

An exercise in futility to ban anything once out of the bag. No. I expect it will be priced out of existence much as cigarettes. Which will add to the black market desirables. 

  

[Blue Flu 1,173]

13 minutes ago, theonetruechris said:

Chop chop? its the dodgy cigarettes / tobacco that's unregulated and has who knows what in it. To say its disgusting doesn't do it justice. I tried one once - never again. I get some people cant afford to smoke but dear god that is not the answer.

They used to grow it in QLD when I lived there. I tried it once, as was still a smoker at the time. Not good , not good at all. I can only suppose the taste varies according to grower and added content. 

[Blue Flu 1,173]

16 minutes ago, theonetruechris said:

Chop chop? its the dodgy cigarettes / tobacco that's unregulated and has who knows what in it. To say its disgusting doesn't do it justice. I tried one once - never again. I get some people cant afford to smoke but dear god that is not the answer.

Probably most similar 'normal' tobacco equivalent in Australia would be the rolling tobacco White OX. (I believe popular in prisons as cheap) 

[Parley 7,921]

49 minutes ago, theonetruechris said:

Chop chop? its the dodgy cigarettes / tobacco that's unregulated and has who knows what in it. To say its disgusting doesn't do it justice. I tried one once - never again. I get some people cant afford to smoke but dear god that is not the answer.

These days i don't think it is homemade.

In Australia it is generally packets of cigarettes smuggled in from China or similar countries. No health warnings and usually about $20 a packet instead of $50. Lots of Asian shops will sell it under the counter to regulars. Vapes will end up the same way soon.

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[unzippy 3,972]

Patrick has a new beer on, very London Pride-ish (in an Aussie too cold and too fizzy kind of a way)

$7 a schooner, nice.

[unzippy 3,972]

On 21/05/2023 at 15:25, calNgary said:

I honestly don't know. Due to my medical condition i will probably have to.

       Cal x

Went for it, walk in on Monday.  No issues so far

[InnerVoice 1,283]

20 minutes ago, unzippy said:

Patrick has a new beer on, very London Pride-ish (in an Aussie too cold and too fizzy kind of a way)

$7 a schooner, nice.

@unzippy where is this fine establishment?!

[welljock 332]

2 hours ago, InnerVoice said:

@unzippy where is this fine establishment?!

unzippy is going to say "so tell me where you think it is?"

[unzippy 3,972]

12 hours ago, InnerVoice said:

@unzippy where is this fine establishment?!

Fitzroy, Melbourne