BritChickx 10,877 Posted May 23 21 hours ago, ramot said: Such an exciting time for you, where did yo end up getting a job. Wishing you and your fiancé all the best for your new life here xM Thank you We are moving to Wollongong in NSW. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BritChickx 10,877 Posted May 23 6 hours ago, Blue Flu said: Anyone see Four Corners last night on The ABC? An expose on how cocaine is flooding into Australia and how foreign gangs are in control. Nothing new to me exactly, but hopefully enlightening for some in underlining just how serious and facilitated our rampant drug situation has become and getting far worse. It's not only houses people, that we are among the most expensive in the world, but our drugs fetch the most as well. At least Cocaine cannot be made with the ease of meth (Ice) at home. But no sign of it putting the home meth labs out of business just yet. I keep hearing of how bad the drug culture is in Aus! Surely not any worse than the UK?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toots 12,167 Posted May 23 7 minutes ago, BritChickx said: I keep hearing of how bad the drug culture is in Aus! Surely not any worse than the UK?? It could be worse depending on which area of Australia you will be living in. The last time I was in hospital in Launceston, there was a loud screaming and yelling in the ED and the nurse told me it was someone on meth. Security had to be called to deal with the person. Other than that I've not come across any obvious drug taking and I'm someone who saw all the drug culture in the 60s and 70s in various countries so I'm aware when drug use is around. As a nurse soon to be working here, I'm sure you will come across drug addicts in your working day. I saw obvious drug affected people in Sydney but don't know if it was any worse than the UK cities. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HappyHeart 14,320 Posted May 23 25 minutes ago, BritChickx said: I keep hearing of how bad the drug culture is in Aus! Surely not any worse than the UK?? I’d say it’s about the same. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rallyman 4,082 Posted May 23 51 minutes ago, BritChickx said: Thank you We are moving to Wollongong in NSW. Good luck 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rallyman 4,082 Posted May 23 30 minutes ago, Toots said: It could be worse depending on which area of Australia you will be living in. The last time I was in hospital in Launceston, there was a loud screaming and yelling in the ED and the nurse told me it was someone on meth. Security had to be called to deal with the person. Other than that I've not come across any obvious drug taking and I'm someone who saw all the drug culture in the 60s and 70s in various countries so I'm aware when drug use is around. As a nurse soon to be working here, I'm sure you will come across drug addicts in your working day. I saw obvious drug affected people in Sydney but don't know if it was any worse than the UK cities. Sat in a nice open space in centre of Newcastle today day having my lunch with a fellow worker , we got totally abused by a crack head as we wouldn’t giver her any money the language was absolutely disgusting to say the least 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toots 12,167 Posted May 24 (edited) It's a wet and windy afternoon here. A friend just gave me this to read so I've settled down to give it a go. I wasn't bothered whether I'd read it or not but I am just into chapter 3. Riveting stuff. Edited May 24 by Toots 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Flu 1,164 Posted May 24 23 hours ago, Rallyman said: Sat in a nice open space in centre of Newcastle today day having my lunch with a fellow worker , we got totally abused by a crack head as we wouldn’t giver her any money the language was absolutely disgusting to say the least Pretty normal stuff really. A friend and myself passed one (a male) laying/sitting outside a Pizza place quite close to my house. Unfortunately my friend acknowledged him by saying "good afternoon" to which he entered a nonsensical dialogue , friendly enough at first, then insisted he wanted to 'hang out' with us. When I said we were busy he got extremely aggressive , screaming we were "fag..ts, and wanted to fight . He came after me , but the sad thing was he was somewhat emaciated and most likely could have been seriously hurt if I was forced to retaliate. He was definitely up for it though and came close to getting hit by a car attempting to come after me. All too sad. While the guy should not have allowed himself to fall so low, I do understand addiction and feel more anger at those making a very comfortable living from the despair of others. Sadly not even the first time that have had a run in with a crack head. I number in at number four now , but one was 'self inflicted' going to help out an Asian tourist who was way out of his comfort zone in being very aggressively confronted by an out of control crack head. Sadly would I do it again? No chance. Put myself at great risk and when approached police (a bit later )they claimed to be on another job and would approach him later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Flu 1,164 Posted May 24 23 hours ago, HappyHeart said: I’d say it’s about the same. No way is it the same. Less visible if anything than UK , but far more involvement in its manufacture by the population. Hence name Merth given to Perth is some quarters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Flu 1,164 Posted May 24 23 hours ago, Toots said: It could be worse depending on which area of Australia you will be living in. The last time I was in hospital in Launceston, there was a loud screaming and yelling in the ED and the nurse told me it was someone on meth. Security had to be called to deal with the person. Other than that I've not come across any obvious drug taking and I'm someone who saw all the drug culture in the 60s and 70s in various countries so I'm aware when drug use is around. As a nurse soon to be working here, I'm sure you will come across drug addicts in your working day. I saw obvious drug affected people in Sydney but don't know if it was any worse than the UK cities. It is a ten billion dollar industry plus in Australia , as such of course highly corruptible. It doesn't help that Australians are the highest recreational drug users in the world. Not all is reported. Not by far. In fact this thread is aptly named, "I know no one will care" Unless of course you have a relative or loved one addicted to the grub drug methamphetamine. Or as in my case, your partner has come close to a crack head going through a red light and coming close to cleaning her up. Or indeed having to endure almost a home invasion at three in the morning , after requesting crack heads (and manufacturers ) to please keep the noise down. No support tendered by usual expected sources. Could go on but you'll get the jest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Flu 1,164 Posted May 24 (edited) On 23/05/2023 at 14:33, BritChickx said: I keep hearing of how bad the drug culture is in Aus! Surely not any worse than the UK?? I cannot speak for NSW , except to say the Daily Mail done an expose of the drug scene in Sydney some months back. Lots of cocaine there from my understanding. Methamphetamine, not common in UK, please may it remain so, as some UK short termers to OZ appear to be very willing to kick things off over there. I'm thinking of one woman in particular and daughter but no need to go into detail. Very bad in Country WA. (but regional areas in NSW and Vic as well) Perth (top in OZ)although it would appear in competition with Adelaide for first place in production. (as per waste water testing) Actually it can indeed be an incentive . There's a big silence around it though. WA fetches my sources tell me the highest prices in the country. Our location makes as a prime target as well. Edited May 24 by Blue Flu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Flu 1,164 Posted May 24 On 23/05/2023 at 12:13, Parley said: I don't make the rules. I just abide by them. Didn't really mark your card as being a "Yes' man? More a subversive self styled 'hit' man of the Right. Just shows how easy it is to get it wrong. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HappyHeart 14,320 Posted May 24 55 minutes ago, Blue Flu said: No way is it the same. Less visible if anything than UK , but far more involvement in its manufacture by the population. Hence name Merth given to Perth is some quarters. When were you last in the UK? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HappyHeart 14,320 Posted May 24 35 minutes ago, Blue Flu said: I cannot speak for NSW , except to say the Daily Mail done an expose of the drug scene in Sydney some months back. Lots of cocaine there from my understanding. Methamphetamine, not common in UK, please may it remain so, as some UK short termers to OZ appear to be very willing to kick things off over there. I'm thinking of one woman in particular and daughter but no need to go into detail. Very bad in Country WA. (but regional areas in NSW and Vic as well) Perth (top in OZ)although it would appear in competition with Adelaide for first place in production. (as per waste water testing) Actually it can indeed be an incentive . There's a big silence around it though. WA fetches my sources tell me the highest prices in the country. Our location makes as a prime target as well. The way you describe though can be off putting for people who don’t live here. As a resident of 14 years, living in the metro area, average suburb, having raised 2 children here through teenage years I feel your attitude is a little biased by your own location and experiences. We’ve all seen and heard about the meth crisis and no doubt it is there…but… life goes on and I sincerely doubt there are other places untouched. It’s a worldwide phenomenon. Maybe the drugs of choice vary because of accessibility and production and so on but realistically, it’s never going to go away is it? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InnerVoice 1,022 Posted May 24 On 23/05/2023 at 17:26, Rallyman said: Sat in a nice open space in centre of Newcastle today day having my lunch with a fellow worker , we got totally abused by a crack head as we wouldn’t giver her any money the language was absolutely disgusting to say the least She'll not get very far with that approach. Back in the UK you'd normally be greeted with "Can you spare 50p for a cup of tea, guv?", whilst sitting next to an ATM machine accompanied by a dog with sad eyes. I'd sometimes buy them a cuppa if there was anywhere close by. Australian Citizen since 2007 | Returned to the UK 2008-2011 | Lived in Sydney, Brisbane and Cairns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Flu 1,164 Posted May 24 (edited) 3 hours ago, HappyHeart said: When were you last in the UK? Believe me. I know the drug scene in London rather well. I've known people that have delt it and been to many a party where some used drugs. I knew many people that took drugs from the middle classes. What I did not know was the middle class actually not interested in the product outside of the money to be made from its manufacture. Cannot be healthy for a society surely? A ten Billion dollar drug industry in OZ? Over two billion in WA just in meth alone. Come now. Nothing along the lines of it being a main stream pursuit. Edited May 24 by Blue Flu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Flu 1,164 Posted May 24 2 hours ago, InnerVoice said: She'll not get very far with that approach. Back in the UK you'd normally be greeted with "Can you spare 50p for a cup of tea, guv?", whilst sitting next to an ATM machine accompanied by a dog with sad eyes. I'd sometimes buy them a cuppa if there was anywhere close by. I as well. No problem helping out in a practical sense . Not keen as a rule to give money though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Flu 1,164 Posted May 24 2 hours ago, HappyHeart said: The way you describe though can be off putting for people who don’t live here. As a resident of 14 years, living in the metro area, average suburb, having raised 2 children here through teenage years I feel your attitude is a little biased by your own location and experiences. We’ve all seen and heard about the meth crisis and no doubt it is there…but… life goes on and I sincerely doubt there are other places untouched. It’s a worldwide phenomenon. Maybe the drugs of choice vary because of accessibility and production and so on but realistically, it’s never going to go away is it? You are entitled to your take on things. No doubt I am biased when it is all around me and in every suburb I have looked at in search of alternative property. I think anyone not involved in drug trafficking in some shape or form would arrive at such a conclusion. It is not a world wide phenonium. Perth, sadly is the Australian capital of this drug, although Adelaide seems to be challenging for the top position. It seems to sway between the two. Putting people off? I would say encouraging as many as put off. You forget, I have been through the mill with this , and have had it unvoluntary thrown at me and in the process been exposed the some very uncomfortable truths. Things not to be discussed on a public forum, but most unpalatable for a person born here. Actually if the law was enforced it would be a great start in arresting the criminal and moral decline. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulya 2,827 Posted May 24 Origin I now only a week away now in Adelaide, wish I could be there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FirstWorldProblems 2,058 Posted May 24 Surely @Blue Flu is just relaying their lived experience. Others have a different one. There’s no wrong is there? 2 British | Lived in Australia 2001-02 on 457 | Married Aussie wife & moved back to UK | Plan to return to Sydney 2026 when all kids have finished school 5 Feb 2023 - 309/100 submitted | 14 Mar 2023 309 & 100 granted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s713 2,065 Posted May 24 I don't think there's much in the old drug differences, I think there's slightly more recreational drugs here e.g. E's, coke, there always seemed to be more lifestyle drugs in Oz, e.g. Ice. Just personal observation. Mate of mine went to New York last week and, you know that stench of potent pot that people smoke these days, he said the whole place stunk of it, it's legal there now apparently, I never knew that (or decriminalised I don't know). Probably much of a muchness anywhere tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Blue Flu 1,164 Posted May 24 (edited) 7 hours ago, FirstWorldProblems said: Surely @Blue Flu is just relaying their lived experience. Others have a different one. There’s no wrong is there? Surely the reaction on this forum to such related experiences are highly suggestive of the situation, I was attempting to underline? Put quite simply, I'd save a lot of grief by simply 'changing roles'. (in a manner of speaking) I'd suggest in most instances the subject matter would not provoke such scorn. Dare I say a degree of support in addressing the matter? Edited May 24 by Blue Flu 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Flu 1,164 Posted May 24 1 hour ago, s713 said: I don't think there's much in the old drug differences, I think there's slightly more recreational drugs here e.g. E's, coke, there always seemed to be more lifestyle drugs in Oz, e.g. Ice. Just personal observation. Mate of mine went to New York last week and, you know that stench of potent pot that people smoke these days, he said the whole place stunk of it, it's legal there now apparently, I never knew that (or decriminalised I don't know). Probably much of a muchness anywhere tbh. Actually there is. UK it's Spice. Doubt if many in Perth would be aware of it. Must ask around. As continually mention we in Perth are among the biggest Ice users in Australia, which is already high in world rankings. For me, it is not necessarily the using, but what goes on around the subject of drug use , which can and does impact as all. Actually I wouldn't mind if it was only pot as you term it. Probably one of the silliest moves a former WA government did was to criminalise it. Simply opened the doors to far worse, more profitable drugs like Ice. (with all the implications of that) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HappyHeart 14,320 Posted May 25 25 minutes ago, Blue Flu said: Actually there is. UK it's Spice. Doubt if many in Perth would be aware of it. Must ask around. As continually mention we in Perth are among the biggest Ice users in Australia, which is already high in world rankings. For me, it is not necessarily the using, but what goes on around the subject of drug use , which can and does impact as all. Actually I wouldn't mind if it was only pot as you term it. Probably one of the silliest moves a former WA government did was to criminalise it. Simply opened the doors to far worse, more profitable drugs like Ice. (with all the implications of that) What about monkey dust? Rife in my home town. Zombies walking around whacked off their heads. Spice too. Coke. Coke is a massive problem in the Uk and cheaper than booze. My cousin is clean after battling a years long coke addiction. It’s just as bad if not worse there. My viewpoint based on what I’ve seen and experienced here and there. The vape epidemic is also very disturbing. My heart bleeds after we all but eliminated cigarette smoking. Some asshole comes up with candy flavour vapes. It’s immoral. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites