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I had an injection in my shoulder today, taking it easy for a few days and unrealistically hoping to get more movement back in my arm. Sadly the main tendons plus others are irreparable, lasting damage from a bad fall 10 years ago when my shoulder was badly fractured, but it is depressing when you are gently told, that a repair is not really viable and the damage not uncommon at your age. I made the Dr laugh though when I said but I still feel 50 on a rare good day. 

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43 minutes ago, Cup Final 1973 said:

Remember when you thought 50 was really old?

Oh those dizzy days of youth, but actually 50 sounds pretty young to me now.

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1 hour ago, ramot said:

I had an injection in my shoulder today, taking it easy for a few days and unrealistically hoping to get more movement back in my arm. Sadly the main tendons plus others are irreparable, lasting damage from a bad fall 10 years ago when my shoulder was badly fractured, but it is depressing when you are gently told, that a repair is not really viable and the damage not uncommon at your age. I made the Dr laugh though when I said but I still feel 50 on a rare good day. 

Keep moving it whem you can. Gentle range of movement exercises. Will.you see a physio? It'll help. Hope you get some relief from the injections. 

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20 minutes ago, HappyHeart said:

Keep moving it whem you can. Gentle range of movement exercises. Will.you see a physio? It'll help. Hope you get some relief from the injections. 

@ramot, I would also suggest seeing a good physiotherapist, or a myotherapist or reflexologist if you're feeling adventurous.

One of the things I learned during my dancing career is that GP's and even some specialists aren't very good with tendon/ligament/muscle problems.  Their response tends to be that if surgery won't help, then rest is the only other option.  Whereas a good physical therapist can do an enormous amount if you're willing to give them a try.

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1 hour ago, HappyHeart said:

Keep moving it whem you can. Gentle range of movement exercises. Will.you see a physio? It'll help. Hope you get some relief from the injections. 

Thank you for the suggestion, but It was the physiotherapist that has caused the problem my GP  thinks. I was seeing him for my neck, and he started to work on my shoulder. I did  tell him how serious my fall was and that I had my fall and operation in Africa, and that there weren’t any real notes here. I was in so much pain after 3 sessions and doing the exercises, that I said I would stop and see my GP. Had an X-ray and ultrasound, showed the old chronic injury to my shoulder, the main tendons gone and unrepairable, possibly snapped while doing the exercises? and one still hanging by a thread,  Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but the physiotherapist should have not pushed me to continue the exercises? No point doing any now as there are no tendons to stretch. Just seeing if the injection and rest helps, it’s so frustrating now not being able to move my arm in some directions, eg behind my back is now impossible, whereas I could just do that .before.

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11 hours ago, ramot said:

I had an injection in my shoulder today, taking it easy for a few days and unrealistically hoping to get more movement back in my arm. Sadly the main tendons plus others are irreparable, lasting damage from a bad fall 10 years ago when my shoulder was badly fractured, but it is depressing when you are gently told, that a repair is not really viable and the damage not uncommon at your age. I made the Dr laugh though when I said but I still feel 50 on a rare good day. 

I had a torn left bicep caused through battling a 3 metre  shark for over an hour whilst fishing. The GP said that a repair at my age wasn't "worth the trouble." I was 59 at the time. The same arm is the one they took the vein from for my quad bypass. Now I have an almost constant (mild) ache in that arm which at times can be severe. The last time I mentioned it, I ended up being sent for an angiogram due to my history of cardio problems.

I mentioned that it could be an RSI due to the fact that I have in the past done lots of photo editing and my hand could be on a mouse for as much as 8hrs a day but it fell on deaf ears. I rarely use the computer nowadays as it just seems to aggravate the problem.

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21 minutes ago, Johndoe said:

I had a torn left bicep caused through battling a 3 metre  shark for over an hour whilst fishing. The GP said that a repair at my age wasn't "worth the trouble." I was 59 at the time. The same arm is the one they took the vein from for my quad bypass. Now I have an almost constant (mild) ache in that arm which at times can be severe. The last time I mentioned it, I ended up being sent for an angiogram due to my history of cardio problems.

I mentioned that it could be an RSI due to the fact that I have in the past done lots of photo editing and my hand could be on a mouse for as much as 8hrs a day but it fell on deaf ears. I rarely use the computer nowadays as it just seems to aggravate the problem.

Make sure your desk set up is ergonomically sound. The height of desk and chair is really important. We recently altered ours and my neck and shoulders feel so much better.

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11 hours ago, ramot said:

Thank you for the suggestion, but It was the physiotherapist that has caused the problem my GP  thinks. I was seeing him for my neck, and he started to work on my shoulder. I did  tell him how serious my fall was and that I had my fall and operation in Africa, and that there weren’t any real notes here. I was in so much pain after 3 sessions and doing the exercises, that I said I would stop and see my GP. Had an X-ray and ultrasound, showed the old chronic injury to my shoulder, the main tendons gone and unrepairable, possibly snapped while doing the exercises? and one still hanging by a thread,  Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but the physiotherapist should have not pushed me to continue the exercises? No point doing any now as there are no tendons to stretch. Just seeing if the injection and rest helps, it’s so frustrating now not being able to move my arm in some directions, eg behind my back is now impossible, whereas I could just do that .before.

I hope you let the physiotherapist know what happened, even if you send him an email.  He certainly should not have pushed you through pain - sounds like he's either a bit of a shonk or inexperienced.  If it was inexperience then you giving him feedback may prevent him damaging somebody else.  

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1 hour ago, rammygirl said:

Make sure your desk set up is ergonomically sound. The height of desk and chair is really important. We recently altered ours and my neck and shoulders feel so much better.

Yes, very very important.  Most people have no idea what a true ergonomic setup really is.  If you've got wrist rests and you're using them, your setup is not ergonomic!

In a true ergonomic setup, your upper arms should be hanging loosely by your sides while you are using your keyboard and mouse.

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11 hours ago, ramot said:

Thank you for the suggestion, but It was the physiotherapist that has caused the problem my GP  thinks. I was seeing him for my neck, and he started to work on my shoulder. I did  tell him how serious my fall was and that I had my fall and operation in Africa, and that there weren’t any real notes here. I was in so much pain after 3 sessions and doing the exercises, that I said I would stop and see my GP. Had an X-ray and ultrasound, showed the old chronic injury to my shoulder, the main tendons gone and unrepairable, possibly snapped while doing the exercises? and one still hanging by a thread,  Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but the physiotherapist should have not pushed me to continue the exercises? No point doing any now as there are no tendons to stretch. Just seeing if the injection and rest helps, it’s so frustrating now not being able to move my arm in some directions, eg behind my back is now impossible, whereas I could just do that .before.

I also have a sore shoulder caused by wear and tear leading frisky horses years ago.  I go to a chiropractor and it helps a bit.  i'm dubious about physios as a good friend ended up with a pinched nerve after a few sessions with a highly regarded one (in Sydney).  Another friend has had an operation to "fix" the snapped tendon in his shoulder and it seems to have done the trick.  I've also had cortisone jabs in both my achilles tendons.  They were so painful but that also worked well for me.  That was a few years ago and they have been fine since then.  Recently had plantar fasciitis -  inflamation of the tendon that runs under my foot - that was also painful but all OK now -  at least I get out again on long walks/hikes without limping - at one point I had to use a walking stick!!  😐  Thankfully all OK now.  Getting old can be a real pain.  😁

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Just now, Toots said:

I also have a sore shoulder caused by wear and tear leading frisky horses years ago.  I go to a chiropractor and it helps a bit.  i'm dubious about physios as a good friend ended up with a pinched nerve after a few sessions with a highly regarded one (in Sydney).  Another friend has had an operation to "fix" the snapped tendon in his shoulder and it seems to have done the trick.  I've also had cortisone jabs in both my achilles tendons.  They were so painful but that also worked well for me.  That was a few years ago and they have been fine since then.  Recently had plantar fasciitis -  inflamation of the tendon that runs under my foot - that was also painful but all OK now -  at least I get out again on long walks/hikes without limping - at one point I had to use a walking stick!!  😐  Thankfully all OK now.  Getting old can be a real pain.  😁

I’m getting fitter and healthier as I get older.  Having new knees that work has made a big difference. 

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I'm feeling a bit sad for my dog. She is a 10 yr old border collie.

The other day she hurt herself somehow. I was there and nothing seemed to happen other than maybe sje stepped on the track for the sliding door. She didn't just yelp but cried for about 10 to 15 secs and lay down for rest of the day. I took her to the vet yesterday but she is walking ok now and seems to have recovered from it.

But I noticed the last 2 nights she can no longer jump up on my bed and i had to lift her up. Maybe she is getting arthritis.

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2 minutes ago, Parley said:

I'm feeling a bit sad for my dog. She is a 10 yr old border collie.

The other day she hurt herself somehow. I was there and nothing seemed to happen other than maybe sje stepped on the track for the sliding door. She didn't just yelp but cried for about 10 to 15 secs and lay down for rest of the day. I took her to the vet yesterday but she is walking ok now and seems to have recovered from it.

But I noticed the last 2 nights she can no longer jump up on my bed and i had to lift her up. Maybe she is getting arthritis.

Buy some CEN Oil for dogs.  Thank me later…

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2 minutes ago, Bulya said:

Buy some CEN Oil for dogs.  Thank me later…

Bulya, do you think it would work on things like arthritis? My boy is getting on now and struggles in winter so much. He does have a supplement powder in his food that the vet gave us but i cant see much difference.

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12 minutes ago, Bulya said:

Buy some CEN Oil for dogs.  Thank me later…

I will buy some and try it. Thank you.

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12 minutes ago, Parley said:

I'm feeling a bit sad for my dog. She is a 10 yr old border collie.

The other day she hurt herself somehow. I was there and nothing seemed to happen other than maybe sje stepped on the track for the sliding door. She didn't just yelp but cried for about 10 to 15 secs and lay down for rest of the day. I took her to the vet yesterday but she is walking ok now and seems to have recovered from it.

But I noticed the last 2 nights she can no longer jump up on my bed and i had to lift her up. Maybe she is getting arthritis.

What did the vet say?  She may have sprained a toe.  My wee Harry is a bit of a hypochondriac -  everything is a drama if he hurts himself a little.  He had a sprained toe when he leapt over a log.  This all happened a few years ago. He was screaming in agony so we rushed him to the vet - worried sick.  He had an x-ray but in the end it was just a sore paw.  Sometimes he gets something stuck in between the pads of his paws.  What a carry on.  The paw is held high in the air until I sort it out then he puts on a limp for an hour or so until he forgets about it and yes, we have to lift him onto his chair as he puts such a pitiful expression on his face.  That's when we call him Prince Harry, the Duke of Devonport.

Hope your girl is better soon.

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5 minutes ago, Toots said:

What did the vet say?  

Thu funny thing was i had already made the appointment for her as she had a bit of a sore near her eye claw which she kept licking and it wasn't getting better. Then this injury happened. The appointment was for the next day. I rang to see if i could bring it forward but they were fully booked. The next day she was a lot better. The vet just had me walk her up and down the corridor a few times. He felt her leg and said there was no thickening so he thinks it is ok and just keep an eye on it.

But i noticed she can't jump up on the bed at the moment so she must not be feeling great. Could be a sprained toe as you suggest. It is weird as it seemed to happen for no reason at the time.

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27 minutes ago, calNgary said:

Bulya, do you think it would work on things like arthritis? My boy is getting on now and struggles in winter so much. He does have a supplement powder in his food that the vet gave us but i cant see much difference.

 Cal x

Yes. It’s a very high quality product at a fair price.  We buy 20-litre drums for our horse (same product). 

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3 hours ago, Johndoe said:

I had a torn left bicep caused through battling a 3 metre  shark for over an hour whilst fishing. The GP said that a repair at my age wasn't "worth the trouble." I was 59 at the time. The same arm is the one they took the vein from for my quad bypass. Now I have an almost constant (mild) ache in that arm which at times can be severe. The last time I mentioned it, I ended up being sent for an angiogram due to my history of cardio problems.

I mentioned that it could be an RSI due to the fact that I have in the past done lots of photo editing and my hand could be on a mouse for as much as 8hrs a day but it fell on deaf ears. I rarely use the computer nowadays as it just seems to aggravate the problem.

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1 hour ago, Marisawright said:

I hope you let the physiotherapist know what happened, even if you send him an email.  He certainly should not have pushed you through pain - sounds like he's either a bit of a shonk or inexperienced.  If it was inexperience then you giving him feedback may prevent him damaging somebody else.  

He isn’t a bad physiotherapist, experienced and good name locally and has successfully treated my neck before, he did tell me not to push the exercises, take it slow if hurting,  but perhaps a bad error of judgment, He did agree with me when I phoned. I’m not going to ruin his reputation when he has helped many people here.

There is no proof it was his fault, only suggestion.

Depressed today, my shoulder is not happy.

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2 hours ago, Toots said:

I also have a sore shoulder caused by wear and tear leading frisky horses years ago.  I go to a chiropractor and it helps a bit.  i'm dubious about physios as a good friend ended up with a pinched nerve after a few sessions with a highly regarded one (in Sydney).  Another friend has had an operation to "fix" the snapped tendon in his shoulder and it seems to have done the trick.  I've also had cortisone jabs in both my achilles tendons.  They were so painful but that also worked well for me.  That was a few years ago and they have been fine since then.  Recently had plantar fasciitis -  inflamation of the tendon that runs under my foot - that was also painful but all OK now -  at least I get out again on long walks/hikes without limping - at one point I had to use a walking stick!!  😐  Thankfully all OK now.  Getting old can be a real pain.  😁

I feel your pain!! Shoulder not happy😠 today. Don’t know if I am having a reaction to the injection, but I’m very cold, but my face is flushed and I’ve got a headache.

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1 hour ago, calNgary said:

Bulya, do you think it would work on things like arthritis? My boy is getting on now and struggles in winter so much. He does have a supplement powder in his food that the vet gave us but i cant see much difference.

 Cal x

I actually rang them as was having a few issues with their online store. I have orded the CEN Oil and CEN Active which the guy said work well together. He ended up giving me the oil for free as a new customer and free postage.

He seemed like a genuine guy so will see how it goes.

https://cennutrition.com.au/dogs/shop/

 

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