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Guest Rah Rah
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My husband is looking into doing an NVQ in Motorcycle mechanics, but at the local colleges they only do upto an NVQ level 2. The requirements for applying for a visa under this occupation is and AQF level 3 certificate, will the NVQ level 2 be high enough to qualify?

 

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Guest Gollywobbler
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My husband is looking into doing an NVQ in Motorcycle mechanics, but at the local colleges they only do upto an NVQ level 2. The requirements for applying for a visa under this occupation is and AQF level 3 certificate, will the NVQ level 2 be high enough to qualify?

 

Thanks

 

Hi Sarah

 

I'm puzzled by your question.

 

In August 2008 you told us:

 

I have just qualified as a project manager, I did an AQF course online and now being told I need to get 12 months experience even though been doing project role for few years now.

 

Do you intend to nominate Project or Program Administrator 3292-11 as your occupation for the purposes of your proposed Family sponsored subclass 475 visa?

 

Project or Program Administrator 3292-11 - Australian Skills Recognition Information

 

If not, what are you planning to nominate, please?

 

In the same thread, you told us this about Hubby:

 

My other half is a sales and marketing manager and has 4 years managerial experience of teams within a call centre environment including operations management and new business implementation.

 

He wants to apply as an office manager but has no formal qualifications but this is not a requirement on the IMMI website if you have relevant experience. Have a few questions:

 

You are now asking about Hubby as a motorcycle mechanic? Is this what he used to do or something?

 

Motor Mechanic 4211-11 - Supervisor 4125-01 - Australian Skills Recognition Information

 

If the idea is to turn Hubby into the main visa applicant because motor mechanic is worth 60 points, tread cautiously and get some proper advice from an experienced migration agent, I firmly suggest.

 

Don't bother with a belated NVQ at any level because the skills authority for motor mechanic is Vetassess, not TRA. The Vetassess assessment process is so rigorous that there is no need for pre-existing formal qualifications. Please click on the link to the Vetasess site and read the stuff carefully and *thoruughly*. Would Hubby get through the Vetassess process OK?

 

The next thing you would need, ideally, would be State sponsorship for a subclass 176 visa:

 

State & Territory Migration Sites - australia.gov.au

 

This is where it gets tricky. Althhough several States do offer to sponsor motor mechanics, they all have different criteria for which ones they will sponsor and it varies according to the length of relevant, paid, work experience.

 

For instance the ACT demand not less than 3 years of recent, relevant work experience in the nominated occupation, so Hubby plainly can't tell the ACT that he wants sponsorship from them as a motor mechanic:

 

http://www.business.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/163070/ACT_SDL_Baseline_September_2009.pdf

 

South Australia's criteria are different again and finding theirs is not straightforward because the details are on their website, not in their List:

 

Sponsorship requirements for Offshore 475 or 176

 

West Australia say something else again and so on. Plus NSW and QKD won't sponsor tradies at all at the moment, so which State do you want to move to, please? Where does your sister live? Presumably you want to move to be near her?

 

Regardless of what the State will accept, DIAC might not accept the idea that Hubby was once a motorcyle mechanic but now does something totally different. I know that Booklet 6 suggests that there is no problem with this notion. Trust me, there is a BIG problem with this notion, in the shape of the current Minister for Immi. He is whingeing his gonads off about people nominating XYZ in order to get into Oz when they have no intention of working in that occupation post arrival in Oz. If he has not already ordered DIAC to be very fussy about this, he soon will, I suspect.

 

I note, too, that you put the whole thing on "hold" last year because you discovered that you were expecting your second baby. Congratulations about Baby. Has Baby been born yet?

 

I am concerned, though, that you might not be fully up to speed with the latest (23rd September 2009) swingeing changes in skilled visa processing priorities. The whole ruddy game has changed 3 times since 1st January 2009 and it is not clear what else the Minister might think up next. He is extremely unpredictable, Minister Evans.

 

What's New? Recent Changes in General Skilled Migration

 

You must get to grips with the 23rd September FAQ.

 

DIAC's gloomy timescale predictions are true:

 

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/70325-what-would-you-say-minister-immigration-really-11.html

 

Please read Page 4 onwards in the thread above, with particular attention to Jamie Smith and to the migration agents who have posted on Jamie's thread.

 

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/jobready-changes.pdf

 

I can't get my head round the new JobReady Test either but apparently there is a meeting in Canberra about that either this week or it happened sometime last week. Everything is moving so fast that it is difficult to keep up.

 

I can't see the point of this JobReady thing if someone has been through the Vetassess mill, but who knows what Canberra will say? It is not clear to me whether one does the JobReady thing before applying for a visa which is going to take 3 years at least to be processed, either. 3 years is long enough to get pretty rusty unless one continues to do the nominated and JobReady occupation throughout the waiting period, it seems to me.

 

The whole thing is so uncertain at this stage that I don't know whether it is even sensible to apply for a visa at all at the moment.

 

How old are you and Hubby, respectively, please?

 

I will try to get you some competent help with all this.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

Guest Rah Rah
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ok where we are.

 

Yes baby has been born, little girl Isla and is now 6 months old.....time flies. I have passed Vetasses project/program administrator. Hubby is office manager and has passed Vetassess AQF diploma in business. We applied in April for the visa and then the rug got firmly pulled out from under our feet. Hubby is still working on promotion to next level so all going well here.

 

The reason I ask about mechanic is hubby is avid biker and looking for a change of career to pursue a passion. Was looking to do an NVQ and then get a job as a bike mechanic so about 1 year for course and then a few years work experience. The thought process is that with all changes a trade will always stand you in good stead. If they decide to alter the list further potentially business or management roles could be removed from the list leaving us in limbo. By having this back up plan it gives us the option for the future should the direction change again.

 

I am 29 and hubby is 30 in December anything else, let me know. Thanks for response and guidance

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