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Hi all

 

We have been in SA for 12 days and today my OH has been offered a job in Perth. Not loving SA so far, great places to see and lovely countrside but not in the love it camp. Just wanted peoples views of Perth good and bad, what day to day living is like, what areas are nice, etc.

 

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Jackie

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Having lived in both I would prefer Adelaide over Perth anyday...having said that 12 days probably isn't long enough for you to make a decision about staying anywhere - unless you absolutely hate it :wink:

 

Perth Good = weather. Much milder winters than Adelaide. Sunny sunny sunny.

 

Perth Bad = isolated. Restricted shop trading hours a pain if both adults work. No daylight saving. Drivers who don't understand the give way to pedestrians rule. Cost of living much higher than Adelaide, in particular meals out.

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Overall view of Perth

 

Mostly quiet, weather mostly dry and sunny (except June to Sept). Small CBD but plenty of shops. Friendly relaxed vibe. Great beaches, some very deserted and beautiful, ones close to the CBD a lot busier. Lovely suburbs both north and south of the CBD. Expensive to live in the city but go 20 mins out and a lot more affordable. Early closing in restaurants etc. Good if you like your own company. Naturally beautiful place to live.

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Hi all

 

We have been in SA for 12 days and today my OH has been offered a job in Perth. Not loving SA so far, great places to see and lovely countrside but not in the love it camp. Just wanted peoples views of Perth good and bad, what day to day living is like, what areas are nice, etc.

 

Thanks

Jackie

 

Perth good - reasonably safe for young children (except skin cancer risk), pretty city, lovely on the river, nice beaches, weather for about 2 months of the year

 

Perth bad - too hot in summer, too wet in winter, too many flies, much more expensive than adelaide, drug problems, lack of choice, backward thinking, right wing racist, mental death-wish driving, not a lot for kids over the age of 8 unless they want to live at the beach.

 

nice areas are very expensive eg attadale, applecross, churchlands, hillary's, beach suburbs. reasonably priced suburbs are soul-less, isolated and bland - although the new houses are nice!

 

perth is a bit like paris hilton - expensive, tarted up and nice enough to look at, but not much going on under the surface and you soon get bored of it.

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Does OH have job offer in SA? If not then the choice is easy. If you were loving Adelaide then it might be different but otherwise I'd say go for it. I agree 12 days is not long enough to know but what have you got to lose?

 

Weather is definitely more 'Australian' in Perth though I agree there is about a month in summer where it is too hot and a couple of months of wet weather - but that leaves 9 months of near perfection.

 

Cost of living is higher in Perth though & housing in particular. If you want to live close to the city and the beach you need to be thinking $1.5million at least but 20 mins from the city and 10 mins inland $500K is realistic.

 

I LOVE the restricted trading hours (& I'm a full time working mum & OH works full time too - we both work 'office hours') much more time for fun!

 

As for the isolation, I reckon that's overhyped - where are you actually going to drive to from Adelaide? The South West and the Kimberley are amazing places and if I want to go to the east coast I can fly. Plus you are a whole lot closer to Asia and even the UK! The only place I wish I was closer to is New Zealand.

 

Good luck deciding x

 

Jules

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Good - Nice weather most of the year, chilled out, no pressure, nice beaches, good days out. Good vibe.

 

Bad - Expensive, not much to do if you're between 16 & 35, standard of drivers.

 

BTW, restricted trading is a blessing.

:biggrin: can I ask what you do after 35 yrs of age pls?:wubclub:
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Does OH have job offer in SA? If not then the choice is easy. If you were loving Adelaide then it might be different but otherwise I'd say go for it. I agree 12 days is not long enough to know but what have you got to lose?

 

Weather is definitely more 'Australian' in Perth though I agree there is about a month in summer where it is too hot and a couple of months of wet weather - but that leaves 9 months of near perfection.

 

Cost of living is higher in Perth though & housing in particular. If you want to live close to the city and the beach you need to be thinking $1.5million at least but 20 mins from the city and 10 mins inland $500K is realistic.

 

I LOVE the restricted trading hours (& I'm a full time working mum & OH works full time too - we both work 'office hours') much more time for fun!

 

As for the isolation, I reckon that's overhyped - where are you actually going to drive to from Adelaide? The South West and the Kimberley are amazing places and if I want to go to the east coast I can fly. Plus you are a whole lot closer to Asia and even the UK! The only place I wish I was closer to is New Zealand.

 

Good luck deciding x

 

Jules

 

perth is a good springboard to asia and some parts of the kimberly etc are beautiful as you say.but very long drives to go anywhere from perth and flying anywhere from perth is quite expensive - that has been a huge disppointment to us. i had a friend visit from the UK and she could book us both a flight from perth to china when she was in the UK for nearly half of what it was going to cost me to book from perth. why are flights from UK to perth so much cheaper than perth to uk - it really hacks me off.

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if o/h has a job offer with the same company in Perth... will they pay for him to go and do a reccie? Can't believe you are making decisions like this after 12 days!.... might be good to check out Perth before you move... did you check out Adelaide before you moved there?? - don't know Adelaide but I love Perth but it is quiet and for families, beach life, camping trips, wineries... if that's what floats your boat. suggest if you dont like Adelaide, can't imagine what Perth has to offer that's much different really... small cities, varied nightlife/culture and on the coast/river?????

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Good, great to grow up in till you reach say 20, then it becomes suffocating and boring, restricted hours are a pain if you need something after work (why do people say they like them? if they live in the suberbs they would not know if the shops are open 24/7 or closed at 5)

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Good, great to grow up in till you reach say 20, then it becomes suffocating and boring, restricted hours are a pain if you need something after work (why do people say they like them? if they live in the suberbs they would not know if the shops are open 24/7 or closed at 5)

 

 

i did a random survey of friends and collegues re extended shopping hours. Interestingly, those who appear to do very little with their children favoured the keep the shops shut/more family time approach. it seems to me people spout that tripe so that they can pretend to themselves and others that they value family time. not shopping on a sunday or at 7pm on a Tuesday does not make you a better parent or a closer family. good parents will spend quality time with their children irrespective of whether the shops are open or closed. and all those that want the shops shut - you dont see them refusing to go to IGA or to a restaurant etc on a sunday as the workers should be with their families. its all double standards. plus saturdays are a nightmmare as its the only time most people can shop - everything takes four times as long. if i could nip in and out to the shops in an evening i would have more time with my family. and it suits some families to have a parent work in the evening/weekend for child care reasons.. as i say - double standards. vicars work on sundays - if its good enough for god, its good enough for me.

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Swings and roundabouts - some people like extended trading some don`t - personally it doesn`t bother me -we both work full time and still manage to get the shopping done plus quality time with family. Our lives don`t revolve around shopping expeditiions or the the latest fashion must haves.

To the original poster Perth is somewhere people seem to love or hate.It can be expensive to fly to other cities but that is starting to get better with more deals from the airlines. The thing that grips me however is that some seem to think that because they hate it here then if you are happy here you are either boring or easily pleased or come from some slumlike ghetto in the dark North of England. They smirk knowingly, making little comments about give it time, you`ve only been here.......... (insert 2 wks, 1 month or 2years - whatever suits) they make jokes about you being brain dead and I have to say it really is starting to grip me because I don`t tell them that they are idiots for not liking it - because they are not - people are different and I happily accept it. Believe it or not however quite a few of us like it - if that makes me seem boring then hey fine - I`ll stand up and take a bow but I`m still happy here for now.

Rant over - as you were!

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Swings and roundabouts - some people like extended trading some don`t - personally it doesn`t bother me -we both work full time and still manage to get the shopping done plus quality time with family. Our lives don`t revolve around shopping expeditiions or the the latest fashion must haves.

 

nor does mine - I have no wish to shop 24/7 nor to have the latest must haves. but i cannot access the shops until after they have closed therefore if i want to buy a birthday present, food or clothing, school items etc, i have to go on a saturday and it takes me hours to do what would take 30 mins. wanting some convenience has nothing to do with being obsessed with fashion or not being a good parent

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Perth bad - too hot in summer, too wet in winter, too many flies, much more expensive than adelaide, drug problems, lack of choice, backward thinking, right wing racist, mental death-wish driving, not a lot for kids over the age of 8 unless they want to live at the beach.

 

Hi

Can you elaborate on the right wing racist part,We applied for WA 176 visa and I am Indian ,hubby Portuguese and kids a mixture of both.Would we have major problems living there in schools etc.

 

Thanks

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hi mylady,

 

we have been in perth area since the 7th sept and to be honest we are not over keen . I do think you can make your mind up about a place in 12 days providing u have got out and about as first impressions are hard to change.

as the weather has been torrential rain here up until the last week we are doing a sight seeing trip up north a long the costal road to have a break from perth and then coming back to it in a month to do some work and live a while. (we are touring in a campervan but have 175 visa) i cannot see myself living here but a lot of people have told us its the place to be as the gas and mining are creating alot of jobs and WA is going to be where the money is.

before any one states i know its not all about money:eek: ...

 

it is expensive shopping , clothes .

it is very quiet .

I feel it is isolated .

 

it doesnt float my boat.

 

not sure this has helped ???? xx

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Swings and roundabouts - some people like extended trading some don`t - personally it doesn`t bother me -we both work full time and still manage to get the shopping done plus quality time with family. Our lives don`t revolve around shopping expeditiions or the the latest fashion must haves.

 

nor does mine - I have no wish to shop 24/7 nor to have the latest must haves. but i cannot access the shops until after they have closed therefore if i want to buy a birthday present, food or clothing, school items etc, i have to go on a saturday and it takes me hours to do what would take 30 mins. wanting some convenience has nothing to do with being obsessed with fashion or not being a good parent

 

Sorry -I must have misunderstood you when you stated that people sprouted tripe about not needing extended shopping as a way of pretending to others that they value more family time.

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hi mylady,

 

we have been in perth area since the 7th sept and to be honest we are not over keen . I do think you can make your mind up about a place in 12 days providing u have got out and about as first impressions are hard to change.

as the weather has been torrential rain here up until the last week we are doing a sight seeing trip up north a long the costal road to have a break from perth and then coming back to it in a month to do some work and live a while. (we are touring in a campervan but have 175 visa) i cannot see myself living here but a lot of people have told us its the place to be as the gas and mining are creating alot of jobs and WA is going to be where the money is.

before any one states i know its not all about money:eek: ...

 

it is expensive shopping , clothes .

it is very quiet .

I feel it is isolated .

 

it doesnt float my boat.

 

not sure this has helped ???? xx

Claire, enjoy that holiday you are having. Whilst you are in WA how better to see it than by camper van. Some great beaches in Coral Bay and Exmouth, 80 mile etc. It's not all about money you have to go where its right for you guys ss x:wubclub:
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Perth good - reasonably safe for young children (except skin cancer risk), pretty city, lovely on the river, nice beaches, weather for about 2 months of the year

 

Perth bad - too hot in summer, too wet in winter, too many flies, much more expensive than adelaide, drug problems, lack of choice, backward thinking, right wing racist, mental death-wish driving, not a lot for kids over the age of 8 unless they want to live at the beach.

 

nice areas are very expensive eg attadale, applecross, churchlands, hillary's, beach suburbs. reasonably priced suburbs are soul-less, isolated and bland - although the new houses are nice!

 

perth is a bit like paris hilton - expensive, tarted up and nice enough to look at, but not much going on under the surface and you soon get bored of it.

 

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tell /me more about the right wing racist comment,is it really bad?

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Perth bad - too hot in summer, too wet in winter, too many flies, much more expensive than adelaide, drug problems, lack of choice, backward thinking, right wing racist, mental death-wish driving, not a lot for kids over the age of 8 unless they want to live at the beach.

 

Hi

Can you elaborate on the right wing racist part,We applied for WA 176 visa and I am Indian ,hubby Portuguese and kids a mixture of both.Would we have major problems living there in schools etc.

 

Thanks

don't worry you will be fine you will be welcomed in australia as much as the next guy... providing you make the effort like anyone else. 'sooveroz' has issues!lol ... look at some of their other posts! .... if you're sooveroz.... why are you posting such negative stuff on here all the time? - there are racists in every country (i.e. bnp) but small minorities are not even worth discussing and certainly not the generalisation that you make it out to be. I have been going back and forth to Perth for 20 years and never, not once encountered racisim..... its not fair to make these highly emotive statements on here and scare the bejayzus out of others... do you know how much anxiety you have probably loaded onto these people??? I know you want to present another side of the picture.... but really, find something more positive to do please. :cool:

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hi mylady,

 

we have been in perth area since the 7th sept and to be honest we are not over keen . I do think you can make your mind up about a place in 12 days providing u have got out and about as first impressions are hard to change.

as the weather has been torrential rain here up until the last week we are doing a sight seeing trip up north a long the costal road to have a break from perth and then coming back to it in a month to do some work and live a while. (we are touring in a campervan but have 175 visa) i cannot see myself living here but a lot of people have told us its the place to be as the gas and mining are creating alot of jobs and WA is going to be where the money is.

before any one states i know its not all about money:eek: ...

 

it is expensive shopping , clothes .

it is very quiet .

I feel it is isolated .

 

it doesnt float my boat.

 

not sure this has helped ???? xx

I can see you are in your 20s claire, to go to Perth after living in a City in the UK is going to be a culture shock especially if you liked clubbing late night pubs etc, I would definatly try another state before making your mind up on oz...it's a big place.:biggrin:

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Sorry -I must have misunderstood you when you stated that people sprouted tripe about not needing extended shopping as a way of pretending to others that they value more family time.

 

 

the biggest argument people give about restricting shopping hours is that it will impact on family time. the point i was making was that many of the people I know do less with their families than I do, yet claim they dont want the shops to be open any longer. i would like the shops to be open later at night and perhaps on a sunday - not so i can go there all the time but so that i can get things when i finish work and therefore not have to waste saturday ie half the weekend, shopping in packed out shops.

 

remember its only an issue in Perth - you dont see everyone from the eastern states complaining that they dont get family time because the shops are open on a sunday do you? hence its my opinion that its an excuse rather than a bona fide argument against the shops opening longer.

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Perth bad - too hot in summer, too wet in winter, too many flies, much more expensive than adelaide, drug problems, lack of choice, backward thinking, right wing racist, mental death-wish driving, not a lot for kids over the age of 8 unless they want to live at the beach.

 

Hi

Can you elaborate on the right wing racist part,We applied for WA 176 visa and I am Indian ,hubby Portuguese and kids a mixture of both.Would we have major problems living there in schools etc.

 

Thanks

 

ask someone to send you the letters page of the west australian and you will see what I mean. they are very racist here - openly against aboriginals and more secretly against other races. its not in a violent national front nazi type way - more an attitude that was seen in england in decades past. when there was the incident when prince harry called someone in his army unit a P*ki, the letters in the west australian were all about it being ridiculous that he wasnt allowed to say that and that it was a term of endearment! they also seemed to think him dressing as a nazi was taken out of context.

 

on a personal day to day level i dont see you having any problems - but you will hear people use words to describe people in conversations eg chinkies, darkies etc that appear to be to me to be offensive. arguably its much more of a problem in melbourne and sydney where there have been quite bad incidents recently between gangs made of different racial groups. although I do find the people in perth to have a racist/right wing attitude (anti gay, anti abortion, anti islam, anti liberalism, bring back national service/hanging etc etc), I wouldnt say to you not to come on that basis - so i wouldnt want you to worry about it - on a personal level I'm sure you will have no problems.

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don't worry you will be fine you will be welcomed in australia as much as the next guy... providing you make the effort like anyone else. 'sooveroz' has issues!lol ... look at some of their other posts! .... if you're sooveroz.... why are you posting such negative stuff on here all the time? - there are racists in every country (i.e. bnp) but small minorities are not even worth discussing and certainly not the generalisation that you make it out to be. I have been going back and forth to Perth for 20 years and never, not once encountered racisim..... its not fair to make these highly emotive statements on here and scare the bejayzus out of others... do you know how much anxiety you have probably loaded onto these people??? I know you want to present another side of the picture.... but really, find something more positive to do please. :cool:

 

I've never been run over by a car but that doesnt mean it doesnt happen. just because you have never encountered racism doesnt mean it doesnt happen. the post is called the good and the bad of perth - hence I posted what in my opinion was the bad. it wasnt highly emotive - it was an opinion of what i have found to be bad - it is a right wing place as is witnessed by its political slant.

 

the reason i post here is that it gives me something to do on a long dreary night! what about you? i dont have issues - i'm just fed up with australia and with all the falseness that is portrayed about the place. its just a place like everywhere else and people need to know that they wont escape crime, unemployment, or anything else by coming here.

 

ok now i'm off to carry out open heart surgery on a kitten - is that the type of positive thing you mean??

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Mylady, there are loads and I mean loads of Indian/Chinese/Malaysian/Italian/Portugese.....I could go on...in fact more nationalities than I can think of here in Perth. I work in a city hospital. Sure there is some element of racism..no more than where I worked in the UK though. A significant proportion of Perths inhabitants are immigrants of some sort so I really wouldn't lose any sleep over so called right wing thinking. You encounter racism everywhere..certainly no worse here in Perth from my observations.

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