Guest valeries Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Hello Everyone, We just received SS for VIC. I am very happy but apprehensive. SS is successful for occupation of Statistician but the 175 application has occupation of Economist. We attached form 1023 to our 175 in early July and sent PLE to inform DIAC that the occupation of Statistician was more appropriate because that was where the employability was. We attached along the new Vetassess for Statistician. We haven't heard anything from DIAC even though we sent a second PLE 10 days later to ask them what we were supposed to do. Is there a chance that they will accept the change of occupation since they are very related? Or do we have to withdraw 175 and lodge a new 176? I am afraid that visa will be refused even though we have a successful SS. We have been waiting for 16 months already... Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Hi Val Welcome to Poms in Oz. DIAC might agree to let you alter the nominated occupation but they might equally be content to accept VIC's nomination without it. I think you will need to phone them and ask about this because they do have a discretion about this and which way they will jump depends on whether a relaxed sort of Manager makes the decision or whether you are unlucky enough to get into the clutches of Jobsworth. Contact Us - Department of Immigration and Citizenship The State offers to sponsor the applicant, not the occupation, so DIAC do have scope for complying with your request. Let us hope that the officials that you deal with are minded to be accommodating. Fingers crossed. Cheers Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest valeries Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Thanks Gill! Your are an amazing Moderator by your helpfulness and speed of answer. I have been browsing PomsInOz for a while now and was really hoping to get you on my case. Thanks again, I will try my luck tomorrow night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wahbdh Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 My skills and qualification assessed by EngineersAustralia both as Electrical Engineer (ASCO 2125-11) and Electronic engineer (ASCO 2125-13). I have lodged my application for 2125-11. Now I want to change my nominated occupation to 2125-13 as my experience closely related to 2125-13. I have also lodged PLE but got reply that i cant change my nominated occupation now. Should i submit 1023 form. Please help me out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest izephyr Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 If you really want to make the change and DIAC has confirmed that you CAN CHANGE, it's only upto you. It's a decision that only you can take my friend. Personally, I believe, if your job is more close to the occupation you wish to change, then you should change it. However, changing of the occupation in your application does not matter, as both the occupations you have chosen is related. be wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wahbdh Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Well as I have already written that DIAC has confirmed that i can not change. I want to change the occupation because my specific experience is in telecommunication which is more relevant to Electronics engineer by referring ASCO. I just want to correct it by submitting 1023Form. Is it correct one to send this form as I have been replied by DIAC that I can not change the nominated occupation after application has been lodged. Waiting for your guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Well as I have already written that DIAC has confirmed that i can not change. I want to change the occupation because my specific experience is in telecommunication which is more relevant to Electronics engineer by referring ASCO. I just want to correct it by submitting 1023Form. Is it correct one to send this form as I have been replied by DIAC that I can not change the nominated occupation after application has been lodged. Waiting for your guidance. Hi wahbdh Welcome to Poms in Oz. There is nothing to stop you from sending Form 1023 if you wish but it will not necessarily result in DIAC permitting you to change the nominated occupation in the application which you have submitted. Events so far sound a bit muddled to me. Logic is to consult the ASCO Code prior to lodging the visa application, not afterwards, surely? I suspect that your best bet would be to consult an experienced Registered Migration Agent. I would recommend George Lombard in Sydney: Profile | George Lombard Consultancy Pty. Ltd. Since you have skills assessments for both occupations, and both occupations are also on the CSL, plus they are closely related, George might say that there is no need to do anything. I don't know whether that is what he would say but I would suggest asking him before you risk causing confusion with your application. Cheers Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wanderer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 DIAC are not known for allowing people to change nominated occupations. You need to picture something like half a million applications being received a year and though there may be discretion allowed in some areas if they start allowing application changes too readily, it may just add to the difficulty of keeping some control. You applied a long time back Val and that is also something any discretions if there would take account of. Is economist not on the Victoria SN list and if so, I'd suspect you would have more chance getting that changed. And then as for employability, once an application was successful and you had PR, if you can get employment as a statician rather than as an economist, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest valeries Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Thanks for replying Wanderer but I asked my question back in August and since then I have re-apply for a 176 with another nominated application. DIAC did not allow me to change occupation but they allowed me to trasnfer all documents from the 175 to the 176. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wahbdh Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Thank you all for your kind advice. But nominated occupation can be corrected if not changed by sending form1023. It can be human error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest valeries Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Thank you all for your kind advice. But nominated occupation can be corrected if not changed by sending form1023. It can be human error. I tried that but in my case it didn't work. But it is worth trying, save you some $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Thank you all for your kind advice. But nominated occupation can be corrected if not changed by sending form1023. It can be human error. Hi wahbdh The problem lies in trying to convince DIAC that you genuinely wrote down the wrong thing by accident. According to your description on here, that is not what happened. You deliberately applied nominating the first occupation because it seemed to you that that was the closest match at the time. Later on you consulted the ASCO Dictionary and realised that you would (in your opinion) have been wiser to nominate the second occupation instead. Why should DIAC not believe that, at the outset, you did exactly as you had intended to do and that you simply changed your mind later? Changing one's mind is not a "mistake." It is changing one's mind, after all. You have already tried to get DIAC to let you change your mind at no additional cost or loss of priority. They have refused and that exchange between you will remain glued to your file. You can send them Form 1023 but they will read the advice they have already given you. They may well become very suspicious of your bona fides if you now try to tell them that you made "a mistake." What you want is a favour from DIAC. George Lombard has a better chance of getting that than you have because they know George and they respect and trust George. There is no doubt at all about George's probity. If you can convince George that you made a genuine error, he may be able to persuade DIAC of this on your behalf. Also, are you sure that your current application will be refused because you now think that you have nominated the wrong occupation? You are making an assumption about that, aren't you? Your assumption is not necessarily right. George might say that there is no need to alter anything or to make another visa application because the current application might be OK as it is. I don't know what George would advise but if you don't ask him you will not find out. Cheers Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wahbdh Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Gill Thank you for kind advice. Yes it is true that I am making assumptions of my application status. Electrical Engineering encompasses electronics, telecommunication, power. It is described on all reputed website including Engineers Australia. On the basis of that I applied for Electrical engineer. But ASCO portrays different things which make confused and anxious of my application status. Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Gill Thank you for kind advice. Yes it is true that I am making assumptions of my application status. Electrical Engineering encompasses electronics, telecommunication, power. It is described on all reputed website including Engineers Australia. On the basis of that I applied for Electrical engineer. But ASCO portrays different things which make confused and anxious of my application status. Regards, Hi Wahbdh Check ANZSCO as well, I suggest: 1220.0 - ANZSCO - Australian and New Zealand Standard Classification of Occupations, First Edition, Revision 1 The current edition of ASCO is 15 years old and is effectively obsolete. Australia and NZ decided on the new, joint, ANZSCO instead. It is hoped/intended that DIAC will switch to using ANZSCO in March 2010 but I do not know whether that will happen. If ANZSCO covers you in "Electrical Engineer" or whatever term ANZSCO uses, it is possible that there might be no need to do anything about trying to change your existing application? Cheers Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wahbdh Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Thanks Gill An Electrical Engineer can also perform tasks related communication. The link you referred shows the tasks of Electrical Engineer (Power). However it is also mentioned on the ANZSCO that an Electrical could have specialization in communication which I possess. The same things also mentioned on Engineer Australia and myfuture.edu.au websites. I hope it works. Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kirankumarpv Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I have applied for Skills Assessment for ACS on 2nd May 09 and received the positive skills assessment in July 09 with 2231-79 (Not Elsewhere Classified) as my nominated occupation. At this time i have only 8 months of experience in Oracle because of which i haven't received 2231-79 (Oracle Specialist) as my occupation which is in CSL. I have applied for VE175 with the above skills assessment which is neither in MODL nor in CSL in August 09. It's been almost 9 months i have filed for Skills Assessment and this 9 months i have been working on Oracle which increase my experience to 1 Years 4 months in Oracle. If i apply for a skills assessment now i hope i will receive 2231-79 (Oracle Specialist) as my nominated occupation which makes my occupation in CSL. Will it be possible for me to upgrade my existing nomination of 2231-79 (nec) to 2231-79 (Oracle Specialist) as i have the required experience in the VE175 application? Will DIAC allow this to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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