Guest bentkitty Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 There was a post yesterday on one of the threads here saying the job market is terrible for new migrants. PR visa or not, 9 out of 10 migrants struggle to find anything. We should prepare ourselves to be unemployed for 6 months+. I was wondering what other people's experiences were? One would think it would depend on your profession / experience / skillset surely?! We are moving to Adelaide shortly, I am an accountant, my other half is in IT service management (ITIL) so both white collar. Both professions are on the critical skills list so one would hope that would mean there are jobs out there?! Or am I being too naive! We have considerable savings we are bringing over to buy a house with but obviously would like to find employment asap so as not to eat into the capital too much!! If anyone could share their general experiences of the job market (and accounting & IT specifically) I would really appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris_mac Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I would say 90% of it is just hype! I dare say that unemployment is high but in my opinion, Skilled workers are still in demand.. Other than Perth where there has been a massive boom over the last several years it goes without saying that, that particular state has been saturated with tradies during this period and no doubt are struggling to find work as a result of the down turn etc.. Your own determination and being proactive in getting a job im sure will pay off.. Im an electrician and im not worried one bit about finding work... Call me naive also but you have to be positive in the face of adversity.. Is your cup half full or half empty? Best wishes Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petals Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I recommend you read the Advertiser on line Adelaide Now | AdelaideNow Home Page | AdelaideNow classifieds will have jobs that are on offer around the place. Also read the Australian newspaper it usually has the pulse of what is going on The Australian, News from Australia's National Newspaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris_mac Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I recommend you read the Advertiser on line Adelaide Now | AdelaideNow Home Page | AdelaideNow classifieds will have jobs that are on offer around the place. Also read the Australian newspaper it usually has the pulse of what is going on The Australian, News from Australia's National Newspaper Hi Petals With respect people get paid to write doom and gloom, misery etc as that is what sells news papers.. Propoganda springs to mind! .. If you beleived everything you read in the papers Aliens would have taken over the country, The world would have ended years etc etc.. Best thing about any paper is page 3 in the Sun and thats the only real thing in them. IMHO Best wishes Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fatpom Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 There was a post yesterday on one of the threads here saying the job market is terrible for new migrants. PR visa or not, 9 out of 10 migrants struggle to find anything. We should prepare ourselves to be unemployed for 6 months+. I was wondering what other people's experiences were? One would think it would depend on your profession / experience / skillset surely?! 9 out of 10 statistics are made up on the spot! :smile: The biggest mistake is to think that there is such a thing as a skills shortage in Aus. Its not a third world country. Kids completing year 12 (A levels) is probably more common than in the UK, apprenticeships are good, well organised & quality traineeships There's good access for TAFE & Uni with plenty of gov encouragement and assistance for people to skill up. So you'll be competing with lots of skilled well trained Aussies. Look at it from that perspective & you'll probably do OK. Arrive assuming your skills are rare as hens teeth & you're in for a bit of a shock. I really can't help but think this skills shortage thing is migrant industry spin. The skills thing is probably more of a filtering system. There's lots of people all over the world trying to get to Aus. Also skilled people usually suffer less unemployment whatever the economic climate & so are much less likely to be a burden to the state over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I'm with fatpom - yes, you probably are being a little naive to assume that because your occupation is listed on the critical skills list then there will be zillions of job vacancies and you will just swan into one. This is very much a who you know rather than what you know kind of place so getting yourself known in your field is going to be all important - there are going to be loads of people competing for every job that you go for and, quite honestly, unless you have an outstanding skill set which happens to meet their requirements you would probably be disadvantaged against someone who has the same skills but with Australian experience. Come expecting to be out of work for some months and you should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris_mac Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I'm with fatpom - yes, you probably are being a little naive to assume that because your occupation is listed on the critical skills list then there will be zillions of job vacancies and you will just swan into one. This is very much a who you know rather than what you know kind of place so getting yourself known in your field is going to be all important - there are going to be loads of people competing for every job that you go for and, quite honestly, unless you have an outstanding skill set which happens to meet their requirements you would probably be disadvantaged against someone who has the same skills but with Australian experience. Come expecting to be out of work for some months and you should be fine. Hi Quoll Yes i agree 100% with both you and Fatpom, but lets not forget that Australia as a whole are short of certain skills as on these prioritised lists from state to state and region to region and the overall immigration policies to fill these skill shortages. To think that you can just walk into a job just because you are a joiner, Electrician etc would be naive, but these jobs and others are still simply in demand. Granted, there are new graduates coming from college and uni but they dont have the life skills or work skills to fulfill the skills gaps in the market. As an employer would you employ the graduate who is acadamically minded with a good idea or the pome who has done 20 years experience who can get results and the job done. Be prepared to submit 100s of applications and wait is all everyone can do! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I think nursing is a good example, always in demand yet recently WA put a hold for a few months on offering any jobs, recruitment was down, my own hospital stopped employing casual or agency nurses (which we are still not using)... so certainly even in one of the most sought after trades ... jobs weren't easy to come by. Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhus Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 took me 4 months to get a job, what a great 4 months i had. I am good at my job, adaptable and all that but they don't see that on a resume. wasn't until i paid someone to do a resume for me that i finally got 2 interviews!! Be prepared to send out a lot of cvs and get no replies. Very rude i think but thats what seems to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blueberrymuffins Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Hello, I'm an accountant, two years post CIMA qualified. I spent some time trying to get a job in Sydney in March but had no luck then moved to Brisbane and got a job in two weeks. Recruitment agencies in both cities told me that if I'd been here 6 months earlier I would have been able to get a job within a week and at $10 more per hour. They told me that with the market as it is you should expect to wait two months before finding a job. I think I have been lucky in Brisbane, this was the one interview I had and I got the job first time. My partner is a plumber and is having trouble finding work at the moment. I would suggest that you both phone the big recruitment companies in Adelaide that specialise in your areas and get their opinions about the job market there and how long you can expect to wait before you find work. In accountancy it's Hudsons, Michael Page, Robert Walters. Also have a look at seek.com.au. Good luck with the job hunting guys and let me know if you need anymore info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 It does seem that immigration is working on old data with respect to its skill shortage. That much was blatently obvious when the tradies in WA were struggling to get work yet those trades were still listed on the critical skills list. I guess it cant be immediately responsive, there is always going to be a time lag but it is unfortunate for folk who come with a view that their skills will walk them straight into a job. If there is a turnaround and they are still here of course then they will be laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErmintrudeMcMoo Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Hubby is a sparkie, when we arrived 2 yrs he had no problems getting work - he could walk out of one and straight into another, he lost his job 6 weeks ago and just this week ended up being offered 2 jobs, plus an agent called him yesterdy asking if he was still looking, as he had a job for him (typical!). I do think that it being towards the end of the financial year played a part in how few jobs were out there and things do seem to be picking up but certainly here in WA there are less jobs than when we were on the back of the Resources boom. It`s still bloody scarey being out of work no - matter where you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fatpom Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 To think that you can just walk into a job just because you are a joiner, Electrician etc would be naive, but these jobs and others are still simply in demand.Granted, there are new graduates coming from college and uni but they dont have the life skills or work skills to fulfill the skills gaps in the market. As an employer would you employ the graduate who is acadamically minded with a good idea or the pome who has done 20 years experience who can get results and the job done. I agree with the sentiment of that... well I would I'm a pom with 30 years experience? :smile: But, and there's always a but! :biglaugh: An Aussie has local knowledge of how things work even a teenage one with lots of quals but little work experience under his belt. For example? What do you need in terms of paperwork to put a car on the road in (say?) NSW and how does that differ from (say?) Vic or Qld. Its reasonable that you wouldn't know but an Aussie teenager is very likey to know exactly what's required for his or her home state at the very least. Expand that across all aspects of life in Australia & you get an idea of just how much you have to learn. It came as a shock to me when I realised this I have to say, but then I saw it as a challenge which would set me back for a while but then I would benefit from the experience. And I think I did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobJones Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Sick of hearing doom and gloom from the naysayers. If you are good at your jobs, have great references and experience you will be fine in Australia as in many cities around the World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyNook Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Sick of hearing doom and gloom from the naysayers. If you are good at your jobs, have great references and experience you will be fine in Australia as in many cities around the World. This thread is nearly five years old so nothing stated in it is current. Why bother resurrecting it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Hi Petals With respect people get paid to write doom and gloom, misery etc as that is what sells news papers.. Propoganda springs to mind! .. If you beleived everything you read in the papers Aliens would have taken over the country, The world would have ended years etc etc.. Best thing about any paper is page 3 in the Sun and thats the only real thing in them. IMHO Best wishes Chris OZ media doesn't generally have the same negative presentation as does UK tabloids. I would suggest the figures are on the high side, but saying that mass immigration and locals seeking employment has impacted on the professional job market. Research on opportunities in desired state a must instead of just rocking up hoping for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag of convenience Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 This thread is nearly five years old so nothing stated in it is current. Why bother resurrecting it? Your right. Should be closed as non current although more applicable now than back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petals Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 If anyone wants to discuss the present work situation, please start a new thread I will close this now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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