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NSW teachers, permanent job anyone?

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Has anyone out there actually got a permanent job through the state pool system? All the perm staff I meet when doing casual seem to be either:

 

a) baby boomers coming to the end of their careers

or

b) have landed on their feet by being in the right place at the right time - never the same tale twice.

 

Everyone else seems to be on one of a range temporary contracts for various time-scales.

 

I know that NSW DET advertises a few posts it can't fill on its website, any top tips ??

 

(other than getting known around the local schools for casual & hoping to land something temporary!)

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Has anyone out there actually got a permanent job through the state pool system? All the perm staff I meet when doing casual seem to be either:

 

a) baby boomers coming to the end of their careers

or

b) have landed on their feet by being in the right place at the right time - never the same tale twice.

 

Everyone else seems to be on one of a range temporary contracts for various time-scales.

 

I know that NSW DET advertises a few posts it can't fill on its website' date=' any top tips ??

 

(other than getting known around the local schools for casual & hoping to land something temporary!)[/quote']

 

From all accounts, getting permanency in NSW is a nightmare unless you are prepared to go where they tell you. Now that means you could be in a PS somewhere to the West of Hay which probably isnt where you would want to be living. However, you might choose to do it for a few years if that is where they offer you a contract. Once you have done your time out in the boondocks then you might be in a better position to transfer to one of the places you dont mind living in. Meanwhile, every man and his dog want the plum positions. I think the future will be one of temporary contracts - depts all over are heading that way because it gives them less liability and more flexibility.

 

If you have something special in your tool bag, then play that for all it is worth. I would have said special ed until the other day when I saw that NSW was changing their view of some sp.ed teachers and was going to de-teacher them into more case worker mode from what I can gather. However the unions havent had their final say on that one AFAIK yet.

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Being an ongoing teacher i e permanent is a reward for working in the bush, my son did his time there and he is now ongoing teacher. He actually enjoyed his time in the bush, it might look quiet but once you live in these communities there is a lot going on.

 

We are in Victoria and its the same here contract teaching, 12 months usually.


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Thanks for the info on highlighting specialisations, the problem I have is that I've got 3 kids and my OH can't move from his main-bread-winning job in our area at this time to head out to the boondocks - or even Western Suburbs of Sydney!!!

 

The other prob is that my 'specialisations'as a general K-6 teacher (&hospital teacher) don't feature on NSW DETs precious teaching codes system. Therefore I think I'm pretty much at sq. one.

 

Any advice on retraining as an ED Psych ? I fancy a few years at Uni....

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Thanks for the info on highlighting specialisations' date=' the problem I have is that I've got 3 kids and my OH can't move from his main-bread-winning job in our area at this time to head out to the boondocks - or even Western Suburbs of Sydney!!!

 

The other prob is that my 'specialisations'as a general K-6 teacher (&hospital teacher) don't feature on NSW DETs precious teaching codes system. Therefore I think I'm pretty much at sq. one.

 

Any advice on retraining as an ED Psych ? I fancy a few years at Uni....[/quote']

 

Dont need to be an EdPsych with Doctorate like in UK (at the moment anyway) but yes, a good-ish chance if you do Psych honours and then you could train to be a school counsellor (MEd school counselling) although by the time you have done honours there may well be Psychs in schools employed as psychs. You may by then also have to do a fifth year as registration boards are upping the qualifications from 4 to 5 year training. I'd say it was a good employment option although you still may find yourself a little out in the boondocks. If however, like me, your training was BSc Psych and PGCE then approach the department and ask if there are any sponsorships going for school counsellor training. They will probably fall upon you with open arms. You may have to fight to get a UK hons degree recognized as such for registration purposes though (UK = 3 years, Aus=4 years), the APS acknowledges that but our local reg board was a real PITA about it.

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Thanks Quoll, given me some food for thought, I'm going to look into the whole school counsellor training process, not 100% convinced its me,though, just love that whole class interaction too much- (can you tell I've been casual in a gorgeous school this week?) It could all change next week.....

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